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Aug 29 2006, 07:58 PM
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I was asked today: Would Christ join the 3-ABN lynch mob?
Is this a valid question? It reminds me to t he ago old question, "Have you stopped beating your wife?" Neither a "yes," nor a "no" might accurately answer that question. One who has never beaten his wife, could only give a "no." The 3-ABN question begins with a word that is associated with the absence of law. I reminds us of the days of slavery in the United States, when people were denied any semblance of justice solely on the basis of the color of their skin. It implies extreme prejudice. Truth and justice are absent from consideration. The question attaches all of the above to those who are raising issues regarding 3-ABN. The person who asked that question of me likely believes that what she or he sees on the surface is all that is present. What is seen on the surface is only the tip of the iceberg. Beneath the surface of the water, there are those working quietly, within denominational channels, and outside of such, to effect a change in the 3-ABN situation. All that is asked for by the vast multitude of people concerned about this, is that God will work to restore truth and justice. Their cry has been echoed in the passage found in Revelation 6:9-10. No, Christ would never join a lynch mob. The people who raise their voice in protest over the injustice that they see, are simply responding to what they believe is the call of God. It would be far easier for them to remain silent. But, it is their commitment to Christ that leads them to speak. All of them are human. They may not speak perfectly. They may be wrong. But, they respond to a call to act, and not sit silent in a time of injustice. All would gladly sit back and allow others who have the power to do so to settle these issues in more traditional venues. They would be glad for objective denominational authorities.to investigate, and act, if they believed the power rested with those authorities. They would be glad for the civil authorities to act, if that would happen. Until such happens, the people can only cry out against the wrong that the believe are happening. That cry is in response to what they believe is the call of God, and not a response to a lynch mob. The person who asked that question of me, simply does not understand the issues, what is going on, and what is happening behind the scenes. This post has been edited by Observer: Aug 29 2006, 08:00 PM -------------------- Gregory Matthews posts here under the name "Observer."
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Aug 29 2006, 08:08 PM
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QUOTE(Observer @ Aug 29 2006, 07:58 PM) [snapback]148816[/snapback] I was asked today: Would Christ join the 3-ABN lynch mob? If you're talking about the lynching of Linda Shelton, the answer is "no." The people asking those questions had expected Danny Shelton to carry on business as usual, I think, without skipping a beat. This post has been edited by Panama_Pete: Aug 29 2006, 08:14 PM |
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Aug 31 2006, 05:53 PM
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1,000 + posts Group: Members Posts: 1,521 Joined: 17-October 04 From: Iceland, formerly Denmark, Norway, USA, Sierra Leone, Nigeria, Faeroe Islands. Bound for Heaven. Member No.: 686 Gender: m |
QUOTE(Panama_Pete @ Aug 30 2006, 04:08 AM) [snapback]148820[/snapback] If you're talking about the lynching of Linda Shelton, the answer is "no." --- Linda met the resemblance of a lynching mob in the Thompsonville Seventh-day Adventis Church when she had requested having her membership transferred to another church. -------------------- "Any fact that needs to be disclosed should be put out now or as quickly as possible, because otherwise the bleeding will not end." (Attributed to Henry Kissinger) "He who passively accepts evil is as much involved in it as he who helps to perpetrate it" (Martin Luther King) "The truth can lose nothing by close investigation". (1888 Materials 38) |
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Aug 31 2006, 07:27 PM
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AS I recall, "a lynch mob" hangs people who are NOT guilty, just because they don't LIKE the person.
Are you referring to the "lynch mob" who work for the "Televangelist"? Where was the "lynch mob" when Jesus cast the money-changers and animal dealers were thrown out of the temple in Jerusalem? They "WERE" the lynch mob. Or maybe, the reprimand directed toward the Pharisees and Sadducees and the Scribes in the word, "You generation of vipers ...". Words spoken in truth are not a lynching. They are an expose'? They are a call to abandon the ways of evil. To stop mocking God! "Know ye not that by the words you judge you shall be judged" the judgement cast upon Linda and others is coming back to become the very basis for the judgement coming upon THEM. The punishment ye have dealt shall be dealt SEVEN-FOLD upon you". it seems. |
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Aug 31 2006, 09:55 PM
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5,000 + posts Group: Administrator Posts: 11,143 Joined: 21-July 03 From: Northern California Member No.: 47 Gender: f |
Why is asking Danny, and his people to answer the charges against them a lynch mob? Danny has been told several times and ways he can quiet all of this talk, including Calvin offering to foot the bill for an indipendent investgation. Fact is, he is wrong, and as long as he is wrong, people are going to be asking him about those things which he has done wrong.
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Di And we know that all things work together for good to them that love God, to them who are the called according to his purpose---Romans 8:28 A great many people believe they are thinking when they are merely rearranging their prejudices.-- William James It is better to be silent and be thought a fool, than to speak and remove all doubt.- Mark Twain |
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Jan 27 2007, 03:58 PM
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Danny Shelton and those who work at 3abn should expect to receive backlashes from Danny's seperation from Linda. After seeing Danny and Linda Shelton on TV for so long and then to hear of their seperation causes questions to arise in one's mind. The first question is 'why'. Then one begins to wonder who is at fault. This is only human nature, whether it be right or wrong. When you are in a high position of trust, persons usually sometimes find negative stuff to say, but when you have seperated from your wife and the grounds seem to be unclear, you have opened up a whole can of worms.
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Jan 27 2007, 04:09 PM
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PrincessDrRe Group: Financial Donor Posts: 9,011 Joined: 8-November 04 Member No.: 712 Gender: f |
QUOTE(princessdi @ Aug 31 2006, 11:55 PM) [snapback]149160[/snapback] Why is asking Danny, and his people to answer the charges against them a lynch mob? Danny has been told several times and ways he can quiet all of this talk, including Calvin offering to foot the bill for an indipendent investgation. Fact is, he is wrong, and as long as he is wrong, people are going to be asking him about those things which he has done wrong. That sums it up dead on pernt! -------------------- *"Some folks use their ignorance like a umbrella. It covers everything, they perodically take it out from time to time, but it never is too far away from them."*
PrincessDrRe; March, 2007 ~"Blood = Meat, Face = Meat, Internal "Organs" = Meat - you can try to make it cuter; but it's still meat...."~ PrincessDrRe; September, 2007 *(NOTE: Any advice given by Re' Silvey, MSW is not to be taken as medical/mental health advice. Although trained to be a counselor, currently employed as a therapist, and currently pursuing her PhD in Counseling Psychology (ABD/I) - she is not your assigned therapist. Please consult a mental health professional of your choice for a face-to-face consultation.)* |
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Jan 28 2007, 06:03 AM
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QUOTE(princessdi @ Aug 31 2006, 10:55 PM) [snapback]149160[/snapback] Why is asking Danny, and his people to answer the charges against them a lynch mob? Danny has been told several times and ways he can quiet all of this talk, including Calvin offering to foot the bill for an indipendent investgation. Fact is, he is wrong, and as long as he is wrong, people are going to be asking him about those things which he has done wrong. You're right...that's why Danny and his apologists use smoke and mirrors to try and distract people from the real issues, even when they're faced with first hand accounts from family members and ex-3ABN employees...they figure if they throw around enough "Danny's really the victim" stories then may the questionsn will stop...I don't think they factored in the fact that at BSDA this is not Sabbath School and we pay attention!!! -------------------- Great minds discuss ideas; average minds discuss events; small minds discuss people.
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Feb 3 2007, 02:06 PM
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Is it a general consences that Danny has all the faults and Linda doesn't have any faults. I believe Linda has some faults.
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Feb 3 2007, 04:04 PM
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QUOTE(Treniece @ Feb 3 2007, 03:06 PM) [snapback]175082[/snapback] Is it a general consences that Danny has all the faults and Linda doesn't have any faults. I believe Linda has some faults. Treniece, we ALL have faults, that goes without saying and can be assumed in the case of every human being. "All have sinned and fallen short of the Glory of God." Sister |
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Feb 3 2007, 07:00 PM
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QUOTE(sister @ Feb 3 2007, 03:04 PM) [snapback]175122[/snapback] Treniece, we ALL have faults, that goes without saying and can be assumed in the case of every human being. "All have sinned and fallen short of the Glory of God." Sister All have sinned and hurt themselves in the process. Unfortunately, some have sinned and hurt others as well. -------------------- Got Peace?
John 14:27 Peace I leave with you; my peace I give you. I do not give to you as the world gives. Do not let your hearts be troubled and do not be afraid. "Truth welcomes examination and doesn't need to defend itself, while deception hides in darkness and blames everyone else." Aunt B, 2007 |
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Feb 3 2007, 08:14 PM
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QUOTE(PeacefullyBewildered @ Feb 3 2007, 08:00 PM) [snapback]175156[/snapback] All have sinned and hurt themselves in the process. Unfortunately, some have sinned and hurt others as well. You are right here PB. It isn't about who has sinned. What matters is who has repented. We all have hurt others, most often unintentionally. When an honest hearted person realizes they have hurt another, they take responsibility for what they have done, and make restitution if at all possible. So, once again, it is about the fruits of one's life. What are the fruits of the lives of those in question? I do not believe that anyone here on this fourm would refuse to grant forgiveness if there were genuine repentance. (which involves turning away from sin) People who are self decieved can not accept forgiveness, because they don't think they need it. Wanting the 3abn mess to be cleaned up does not mean that one is against 3abn or the leadership there. Let me add my voice to others here, Thank you Duane for coming forward, and welcome. Aunt B |
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Feb 3 2007, 08:25 PM
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QUOTE(PeacefullyBewildered @ Feb 3 2007, 08:00 PM) [snapback]175156[/snapback] All have sinned and hurt themselves in the process. Unfortunately, some have sinned and hurt others as well. However, we're not doing anyone a favor to tell them they're just fine in their sins and don't need to confess and repent. Not only does this cause further harm to others but harm also to those who do the sinning/abusing. "There is a way that seems right to man, but the end thereof is death." |
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Feb 3 2007, 10:16 PM
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QUOTE(princessdi @ Aug 31 2006, 09:55 PM) [snapback]149160[/snapback] Why is asking Danny, and his people to answer the charges against them a lynch mob? Danny has been told several times and ways he can quiet all of this talk, including Calvin offering to foot the bill for an indipendent investgation. Fact is, he is wrong, and as long as he is wrong, people are going to be asking him about those things which he has done wrong. SUE SCHEFF WINS $11.3 MILLION FOR INTERNET DEFAMATION Susan Scheff and her Weston-based company, Parents Universal Resource Experts Inc., won the jury verdict in Broward Circuit Court in Florida against Carey Bock for posting defamatory statements about her on an internet bulletin board viewed by parents, according to court pleadings. Ms. Scheff was represented by David Pollack, of the Law Offices of David H. Pollack, LLC. The Broward Circuit Court jury sent a strong message that freedom of speech has limits, and the case will make people think twice before setting out on a campaign to destroy others. November 22, 2006 Unwelcome attention invading MySpace.com (click here) October 17, 2006 WATCH WHAT YOU SAY - AND WHAT YOU WRITE South Florida woman awarded millions in internet defamation case Listen to interview with Fox News and Sue Scheff (click here) October 16, 2006 Internet becomes less of a shield for bloggers (click here) October 16, 2006 Penalty of $11 million for Internet insult (click here) October 15, 2006 Where are the net laws? (click here) October 13, 2006 Law reigns in webbers (click here) October 12, 2006 Lawsuit award a warning to blogs (click here) October 12, 2006 Bulletin board libel leads to $11.3m damages : Florida court sets a new precedent (click here) October 12, 2006 Child service provider wins $11.3 million in lawsuit (click here) October 12, 2006 Web insults could be costly (click here) October 12, 2006 Internet Defamation can carry a Big Price Tag (click here) October 12, 2006 Woman Awarded $11.3M in Internet Defamation Suit (click here) October 12, 2006 Woman gets $11.3 million judgment (click here) October 12, 2006 Jury awards $11.3 million in Florida Internet defamation case (click here) October 11, 2006 Broward jury awards $11.3 million in Internet defamation case (click here) October 11, 2006 $11.3 million for Internet defamation (click here) October 11, 2006 $11.3 million for Internet defamation (click here) October 11, 2006 Millions awarded in Internet defamation case (click here) October 11, 2006 $11.3 Million Awarded For Internet Defamation (click here) October 11, 2006 Florida Jury: Be Careful What You Post on the Internet (click here) October 8, 2006 Group rates programs for troubled teens (click here) October 6, 2006 Litigation digest & directory : Susan Scheff and Parents Universal Experts, Inc. v. Carey Bock (click here) Copyright © 2005 Last modified: 01/29/07 DISCLAIMER, WARNINGS, AND NOTICE TO READERS: This website does not represent or endorse the accuracy or reliability of any of the information, content collectively, the "Materials") contained on, distributed through, or linked, downloaded or accessed from any of the services contained on this website (the "Service"). None of the contributors, sponsors, administrators or anyone else connected with this website in any way whatsoever can be responsible for the appearance of any inaccurate or libelous information or for your use of the information contained in these web pages. All information provided using this website is only intended to be general summary information to the public. FAIR USE NOTICE: These pages may contain copyrighted (© ) material the use of which has not always been specifically authorized by the copyright owner. Such material is made available to advance understanding of ecological, political, human rights, economic, democracy, scientific, moral, ethical, and social justice issues, etc. It is believed that this constitutes a 'fair use' of any such copyrighted material as provided for in section 107 of the US Copyright Law. In accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. Section 107, this material is distributed without profit to those who have expressed a prior general interest in receiving similar information for research and educational purposes. For more information go to: http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/107.shtml. If you wish to use copyrighted material for purposes of your own that go beyond 'fair use', you must obtain permission from the copyright owner. This site if for informational purposes only; it is not for referrals to programs. We are not funded directly or indirectly by any treatment programs. I guess asking would be one thing. . . . but the accusations have maybe went above and beyond your pocket. By the way Danny and Linda may be public figures BUT Tommy is not, was not, he was only an employee there. |
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Feb 3 2007, 10:29 PM
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PrincessDrRe Group: Financial Donor Posts: 9,011 Joined: 8-November 04 Member No.: 712 Gender: f |
QUOTE(eye witness @ Feb 4 2007, 12:16 AM) [snapback]175177[/snapback] I guess asking would be one thing. . . . but the accusations have maybe went above and beyond your pocket. By the way Danny and Linda may be public figures BUT Tommy is not, was not, he was only an employee there. I ain't asking. I'm stating with boldness.... TOMMY SHELTON HAD SEX WITH A CHILD (and since it was proven that he did...)HE IS A MOLESTER AND ONE WHO COMMITTED SEXUAL ASSAULT ON A CHILD. Now. Again I ask...since you popped in EyeWitness - Would you allow Tommy Shelton to babysit your children w/o supervision? With supervision? On an "overnight" sleepover? BTW: IF Tommy Shelton was ever on 3ABN Television - before a camera.... EVER. He IS IN FACT A PUBLIC FIGURE. -------------------- *"Some folks use their ignorance like a umbrella. It covers everything, they perodically take it out from time to time, but it never is too far away from them."*
PrincessDrRe; March, 2007 ~"Blood = Meat, Face = Meat, Internal "Organs" = Meat - you can try to make it cuter; but it's still meat...."~ PrincessDrRe; September, 2007 *(NOTE: Any advice given by Re' Silvey, MSW is not to be taken as medical/mental health advice. Although trained to be a counselor, currently employed as a therapist, and currently pursuing her PhD in Counseling Psychology (ABD/I) - she is not your assigned therapist. Please consult a mental health professional of your choice for a face-to-face consultation.)* |
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