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   -------------------- *"Some folks use their ignorance like a umbrella. It covers everything, they perodically take it out from time to time, but it never is too far away from them."*
PrincessDrRe; March, 2007 ~"Blood = Meat, Face = Meat, Internal "Organs" = Meat - you can try to make it cuter; but it's still meat...."~ PrincessDrRe; September, 2007 *(NOTE: Any advice given by Re' Silvey, MSW is not to be taken as medical/mental health advice. Although trained to be a counselor, currently employed as a therapist, and currently pursuing her PhD in Counseling Psychology (ABD/I) - she is not your assigned therapist. Please consult a mental health professional of your choice for a face-to-face consultation.)* |
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Feb 4 2007, 09:03 AM
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QUOTE(PrincessDrRe @ Feb 3 2007, 11:24 PM) [snapback]175191[/snapback]  ...and again for good measure....For Good Measure you need more than I "read" a statement so I trashed a whole family and a ministry. I HAD THE RIGHT! I read a statement, I believed it, so therefore I acted upon it with my own judgment. Sad Diane. I believe also that when all the various forms of proof are exposed on the First Lady you will be shocked to say the least, that you fell for, believed and supported, what you do not even know to be fact. There may be a lesson ahead. Character refinement dear friend. |
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Feb 4 2007, 09:16 AM
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QUOTE(eye witness @ Feb 4 2007, 10:03 AM) [snapback]175236[/snapback] For Good Measure you need more than I "read" a statement so I trashed a whole family and a ministry. I HAD THE RIGHT! I read a statement, I believed it, so therefore I acted upon it with my own judgment. Sad Diane. I believe also that when all the various forms of proof are exposed on the First Lady you will be shocked to say the least, that you fell for, believed and supported, what you do not even know to be fact. There may be a lesson ahead. Character refinement dear friend. I find it very interesting that you refer to Linda Shelton as "the First Lady", not as the Vice President. Linda has never been referred to any where in any postings or publicly as the "First Lady" of 3ABN, but this is a term that has been coined for the Pastor's wife in our black SDA churches, never in our white SDA churches. Is this a hint to your identity? That rather narrows down the field at 3ABN. Could you be John Lomacang? Or perhaps CA Murry? It is definitely sad to think that SDA pastors could sink so low as to lie for Danny Shelton. Or like Bystander, are you just "me"? This post has been edited by sister: Feb 4 2007, 11:51 AM |
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Feb 4 2007, 09:21 AM
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QUOTE(eye witness @ Feb 4 2007, 10:03 AM) [snapback]175236[/snapback] For Good Measure you need more than I "read" a statement so I trashed a whole family and a ministry. I HAD THE RIGHT! I read a statement, I believed it, so therefore I acted upon it with my own judgment. Sad Diane. I believe also that when all the various forms of proof are exposed on the First Lady you will be shocked to say the least, that you fell for, believed and supported, what you do not even know to be fact. There may be a lesson ahead. Character refinement dear friend. Who is 'Diane?
-------------------- WELCOME to BlackSDA from seraph|m, a BSDA Charter member.
Please Join us in The Married Forum and/or Sabbath School Lesson Study forums. Then, come join us here, Live Chat Lesson Study ,for our Friday night study @ 8pm CST/9pm EST. The lesson can be found at Sabbath School Network (SSNET) Motto- "Weapons of Mass Distraction, Have No Place Here. " "Qui tacet consentire videtur," Are not official staff mottos and are not endorsed by BSDA Management. |
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Feb 4 2007, 09:22 AM
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PrincessDrRe Group: Financial Donor Posts: 9,011 Joined: 8-November 04 Member No.: 712 Gender: f |
You just proved that you don't read. I ain't Diane .
That's sad. You can type....but you cannot read. Bless your soul.... No "character refinement" needed unless the LORD sees fit (not you); but literacy lessons may be in order....on your end. Now.... *ahem* Change in stats... 1 in 3 girls; 1 in 4 boys will be sexually assaulted/molested before reaching adulthood. Of the sexual molestations only 26% or less will take place by a stranger. The majority will be someone the child knows (whether friend, relative, or someone known "intimately" [someone that acts in a "family" way or a close "friend" of the family]) by the child. RAINN Network<<<---Click here for Information on RAPE, ABUSE & INCEST. -------------------- *"Some folks use their ignorance like a umbrella. It covers everything, they perodically take it out from time to time, but it never is too far away from them."*
PrincessDrRe; March, 2007 ~"Blood = Meat, Face = Meat, Internal "Organs" = Meat - you can try to make it cuter; but it's still meat...."~ PrincessDrRe; September, 2007 *(NOTE: Any advice given by Re' Silvey, MSW is not to be taken as medical/mental health advice. Although trained to be a counselor, currently employed as a therapist, and currently pursuing her PhD in Counseling Psychology (ABD/I) - she is not your assigned therapist. Please consult a mental health professional of your choice for a face-to-face consultation.)* |
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Feb 4 2007, 09:25 AM
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QUOTE(eye witness @ Feb 4 2007, 07:38 AM) [snapback]175233[/snapback] Duane since you have so willingly made your statements. Would you mind answering a couple of questions? How old were you when say this all happened to you? What year was it? Also I was wondering didn't the law enforcement listen to you when you reported it? Your questions are irrevelant: Children can not consent! People below the age of consent cannot consent! Incompetent people of any age typically cannot consent! Clergy involved in a sexual relationship with a compent acult may under the law be charged with statuatory rape. Perhaps they cannot be so charged as that depends upon State law. In any case they are commonly thought to have violated the seccular norms of society. Quit grasping at straws. I am not making a statement as to whether a crime was committed. But, I am saying that it is inappropriate for Duane who has come forward to be subject to the questions that you ask. He has come forward in a manner that society has said we should pay attention to. And, regardless of any criminal conviction. society has said that children should be protected from the accused simply on the basis of what Duane has said. Society does not require a criminal conviction. Duane: Thank you for your courage in the face of great adversity. -------------------- Gregory Matthews posts here under the name "Observer."
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Feb 4 2007, 09:39 AM
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QUOTE(eye witness @ Feb 4 2007, 08:38 AM) [snapback]175233[/snapback] Duane since you have so willingly made your statements. Would you mind answering a couple of questions? How old were you when say this all happened to you? What year was it? Also I was wondering didn't the law enforcement listen to you when you reported it? As a matter of fact, I DO mind. My statement is online here, at Maritime and on save3abn.com. There are at least a couple of answers to your questions there. If you're going where I think you are with the age question - don't. I advise you to leave that alone. Duane Clem -------------------- Duane Clem
It's not about religion, it's about a relationship. Gems of Wisdom "Lisa and Ronda are not Danny's biological father." -- wwjd, 2/8/07 "Watchbird, The facts prove the above lie." -- wwjd, 2/13/07 "Another lie that can be proven..." -- Bystander, 3/18/07 "The thing about lies is they can be proven." -- Aletheia, 3/22/07 "I am not here to argue" -- Aletheia, 4/24/07 "She didn't move to 3ABN, she moved to Illinois" -- Aletheia, 4/25/07 "Hope is liberal. 3abn is not." -- steffan, 6/9/07 "Danny Shelton does not decide what goes on the air, period." -- appletree, 8/22/07 http://www.save-3abn.com/ http://www.investigating3abn.info/ http://rescue3abn.blog.com/ http://www.abundantrest.org/?p=74 http://abundantrest.org/2007/02/18/3abn-sa...ons-retirement/ http://anewsabbathschool.blogspot.com/2006...ain-wrecks.html http://cafesda.blogspot.com/2006/08/atoday...bn-news_21.html http://www.atoday.com/email/2007/02/12/ http://spectrummagazine.typepad.com/the_sp...eans_and_e.html |
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Feb 4 2007, 09:41 AM
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QUOTE(eye witness @ Feb 4 2007, 09:03 AM) [snapback]175236[/snapback] For Good Measure you need more than I "read" a statement so I trashed a whole family and a ministry. I HAD THE RIGHT! I read a statement, I believed it, so therefore I acted upon it with my own judgment. Sad Diane. I believe also that when all the various forms of proof are exposed on the First Lady you will be shocked to say the least, that you fell for, believed and supported, what you do not even know to be fact. There may be a lesson ahead. Character refinement dear friend. "Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbor. Thou shalt not covet thy neighbor's house. Thou shalt not covet thy neighbor's wife, nor manservant, nor his maidservant..." You will notice two things: 1) Don't bear false testimony of others. 2) Don't even wish you could have a neighbor's wife. Now, some follow up to those: 1) WHO has trashed his whole family and ministry?
2) Who has coveted and taken the next step, that of adultery? 3) Who has lied to cover his tracks? 4) Who will be shocked when the Day of the Lord has come? There will be a reckoning. It will be swift and sure. "To every man according as his work shall be." Eye Witness, I'm sure you will be right about the surprises. That is why there are some who must ask, "Lord, when saw we thee an hungred, or athirst, or a stranger, or naked, or sick, or in prison, and did not minister unto thee?" -------------------- To copyright man's creation is to plagiarize God's gifts.
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Feb 4 2007, 09:53 AM
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PrincessDrRe Group: Financial Donor Posts: 9,011 Joined: 8-November 04 Member No.: 712 Gender: f |
Matthew 18:6
But whoso shall offend one of these little ones which believe in me, it were better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and [that] he were drowned in the depth of the sea. -------------------- *"Some folks use their ignorance like a umbrella. It covers everything, they perodically take it out from time to time, but it never is too far away from them."*
PrincessDrRe; March, 2007 ~"Blood = Meat, Face = Meat, Internal "Organs" = Meat - you can try to make it cuter; but it's still meat...."~ PrincessDrRe; September, 2007 *(NOTE: Any advice given by Re' Silvey, MSW is not to be taken as medical/mental health advice. Although trained to be a counselor, currently employed as a therapist, and currently pursuing her PhD in Counseling Psychology (ABD/I) - she is not your assigned therapist. Please consult a mental health professional of your choice for a face-to-face consultation.)* |
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Feb 4 2007, 10:06 AM
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QUOTE(ex3ABNemployee @ Feb 4 2007, 09:39 AM) [snapback]175248[/snapback] As a matter of fact, I DO mind. My statement is online here, at Maritime and on save3abn.com. There are at least a couple of answers to your questions there. If you're going where I think you are with the age question - don't. I advise you to leave that alone. Duane Clem I am sorry Duane if I have upset you. I will not be able to talk to you, not because I am rude, but their seems to be a problem with the forum. Hang in there, guy. Its a long rode but in the end all will be brought clear, as clear can be. SIU was a big part of my life for a time. |
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Feb 4 2007, 10:08 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 356 Joined: 25-December 06 From: West Frankfort, IL Member No.: 2,722 Gender: m |
QUOTE(eye witness @ Feb 4 2007, 10:06 AM) [snapback]175265[/snapback] I am sorry Duane if I have upset you. I will not be able to talk to you, not because I am rude, but their seems to be a problem with the forum. Hang in there, guy. Its a long rode but in the end all will be brought clear, as clear can be. SIU was a big part of my life for a time. I never attended SIU. What are you getting at? -------------------- Duane Clem
It's not about religion, it's about a relationship. Gems of Wisdom "Lisa and Ronda are not Danny's biological father." -- wwjd, 2/8/07 "Watchbird, The facts prove the above lie." -- wwjd, 2/13/07 "Another lie that can be proven..." -- Bystander, 3/18/07 "The thing about lies is they can be proven." -- Aletheia, 3/22/07 "I am not here to argue" -- Aletheia, 4/24/07 "She didn't move to 3ABN, she moved to Illinois" -- Aletheia, 4/25/07 "Hope is liberal. 3abn is not." -- steffan, 6/9/07 "Danny Shelton does not decide what goes on the air, period." -- appletree, 8/22/07 http://www.save-3abn.com/ http://www.investigating3abn.info/ http://rescue3abn.blog.com/ http://www.abundantrest.org/?p=74 http://abundantrest.org/2007/02/18/3abn-sa...ons-retirement/ http://anewsabbathschool.blogspot.com/2006...ain-wrecks.html http://cafesda.blogspot.com/2006/08/atoday...bn-news_21.html http://www.atoday.com/email/2007/02/12/ http://spectrummagazine.typepad.com/the_sp...eans_and_e.html |
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Feb 4 2007, 10:10 AM
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QUOTE(eye witness @ Feb 4 2007, 10:06 AM) [snapback]175265[/snapback] I am sorry Duane if I have upset you. I will not be able to talk to you, not because I am rude, but their seems to be a problem with the forum. Hang in there, guy. Its a long rode but in the end all will be brought clear, as clear can be. SIU was a big part of my life for a time. Does anyone else feel the need to take a shower after reading anything posted by eYE wITNESS? -Yogi -------------------- |
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Dear Duane,
Please be very careful. Somebody is asking you some strange questions. They give me a bad feeling.  I'm praying for you. Blessings!  -------------------- Grace
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Feb 4 2007, 10:15 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 356 Joined: 25-December 06 From: West Frankfort, IL Member No.: 2,722 Gender: m |
Come on, eye witness. I'm waiting.
-------------------- Duane Clem
It's not about religion, it's about a relationship. Gems of Wisdom "Lisa and Ronda are not Danny's biological father." -- wwjd, 2/8/07 "Watchbird, The facts prove the above lie." -- wwjd, 2/13/07 "Another lie that can be proven..." -- Bystander, 3/18/07 "The thing about lies is they can be proven." -- Aletheia, 3/22/07 "I am not here to argue" -- Aletheia, 4/24/07 "She didn't move to 3ABN, she moved to Illinois" -- Aletheia, 4/25/07 "Hope is liberal. 3abn is not." -- steffan, 6/9/07 "Danny Shelton does not decide what goes on the air, period." -- appletree, 8/22/07 http://www.save-3abn.com/ http://www.investigating3abn.info/ http://rescue3abn.blog.com/ http://www.abundantrest.org/?p=74 http://abundantrest.org/2007/02/18/3abn-sa...ons-retirement/ http://anewsabbathschool.blogspot.com/2006...ain-wrecks.html http://cafesda.blogspot.com/2006/08/atoday...bn-news_21.html http://www.atoday.com/email/2007/02/12/ http://spectrummagazine.typepad.com/the_sp...eans_and_e.html |
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Feb 4 2007, 10:22 AM
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QUOTE(ex3ABNemployee @ Feb 4 2007, 10:08 AM) [snapback]175267[/snapback] I never attended SIU. What are you getting at? Might this link hold a clue to the answer? http://www.law.siu.edu/ (Just a wild guess since I have no other clues yet to go on...) -------------------- To copyright man's creation is to plagiarize God's gifts.
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