Was Linda Innocent? Options

[Uncle Sam]

This whole topic is getting old. Too many accusations and not enough facts. Since everyone is so down on Danny does that mean that Linda is innocent of doing any wrong? She stayed for 20 years, I am sorry she had to know some of what was going on. She had perks. Maybe she had an affair maybe not, I don't know and neither does anybody else except Linda and the Dr.

If we don't like what is happening with 3ABN don't support it. Unless there is a legal issue there is really nothing any one can do and writing about it on a forum isn't going to change anything. If it was something would have happened by now. If Tommy is guilty than the athorities need to be involved. The conference is not going to do anything by what is written here.

I do agree Linda was treated unfairly, looking in, but again none of us know everything that took place. We were not in her home when she was alone with Danny, we were not on the phone with her and the Dr. I think she made some poor choices, like the pregnancy test....maybe if everyone went on with their life Linda could get on with her's????

From what I have read, Danny thinks Linda is behind all of these rumors. Maybe if they stopped unless there is strong evidence, Linda could move on with what she wants to do, her ministry. Some of this talk is so ridiculous, who cares where Linda lives, if she can afford it who am I? So what if she has a pool, so does Danny. Why should she have any less than him if they built their home together for 20 years?

Just some thoughts I had floating around....

[Daryl Fawcett]

Strange kind of post for the name of this new topic in which you asked, Was Linda Innocent?

Why didn't you post this in an already existing topic about Linda?

Maybe you are trying to stir the pot all over again in yet another new topic about Linda?

[princessdi]

I have stated before, that I really am not concerned about Linda's guilt or innocence in this, but more about Danny'and 3ABN's conduct. Which, BTW, supports that Linda is basically innocent of any kind of adultery. I can't believe he really thought that "spiritual adultery" stuff would work with everyone......but then again I guess it worked with enough fools....Ooops!.......folks.

If she, indeed, was in on all of the misdeeds of the last 20 years, then I would say, "what goes around, comes around". I actually have no problem with they way either of them live. I think it was Joy who said something about working 20 years and accumulating a nice, house, etc. That makes since to me. Still having a bit a trouble with the plane, though bought or leased, still an extrememly extravagant expense.

I am more concerned about Danny's and 3ABN's conduct, because they are still the "face of Adventism" for far too many, and the Bible promises, what is done in the dark will come to the light. Our church has too close a bond with 3ABN, and fallout could be extremely nasty. Especially if one of those eager beaver journalist get a hold of this story, and the church has done nothing, inhouse, to correct or eradicate the wrongs, etc.

[Eddy]

Strange kind of post for the name of this new topic in which you asked, Was Linda Innocent?

Why didn't you post this in an already existing topic about Linda?

Maybe you are trying to stir the pot all over again in yet another new topic about Linda?

[Uncle Sam]

Strange kind of post for the name of this new topic in which you asked, Was Linda Innocent?

Why didn't you post this in an already existing topic about Linda?

Maybe you are trying to stir the pot all over again in yet another new topic about Linda?

I am not trying to stir the pot...My question is why was all of this not brought up while Linda was still with Danny or was it? What has changed is it because they now see him for something different. I can agree about the handling of the divorce but all of the rest why did we not know about it before?

If I am not mistaken Walt Thompson has said short of having pictures they cannot prove a physical affair....So I believe the board thinks there was more to it than SA.

It just seems odd to me that when all of Danny's sins are brought to light Linda somehow was/is so innocent?

[Ed White]

It wouldn’t hurt a bit for Danny, Linda & a bunch of forum members to be reminded of at lease one impossibility among the thousands. “It is impossible to whiten up your own life by blackening the life of another”.
I think it was about 1998 that I receiced a second letter from Linda of which my next letter to her became "Open letter to Linda Shelton" due to her not doing what she said in her first letter the year before. This letter is still floating around out there in space somewhere, that is truer today than the day I wrote it.

[Chez]

It wouldn’t hurt a bit for Danny, Linda & a bunch of forum members to be reminded of at lease one impossibility among the thousands. “It is impossible to whiten up your own life by blackening the life of another”.
I think it was about 1998 that I receiced a second letter from Linda of which my next letter to her became "Open letter to Linda Shelton" due to her not doing what she said in her first letter the year before. This letter is still floating around out there in space somewhere, that is truer today than the day I wrote it.

What are you talking about?

[missthg]

how does knowing any of this affect your own personal salvation?

[Panama_Pete]

What are you talking about?

Regarding: What Ed is talking about.

I think Ed is saying that Linda did not come through for Ed because Ty and James did not respond to Ed's questions.

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November 15, 1998


Linda Shelton
P.O. Box 220
West Frankfort, IL 62896

Dear Linda:

Your correspondence to me on March 7, 1997, gave me a indication that Ty Gibson and James Rafferty would reply to a few questions that I had asked them through 3ABN. I already knew that they would not answer. It was just that I wanted you to know of their refusal. The reason for their refusal is a legal question that I was unaware of until recently. Just ask any of the Attorneys there on your staff about the below Supreme Court case. "Where an answer is required, and none given, or misinformation is given, its self evident of fraud." U.S. v. Prudden, 424 F.2d. 1021, (5 ThCir. 1970, Cert, denied; 400 U.S. 831, 91 S.Ct. 62; LEd. 2d (1970); and U.S. v. Tweel, 550 F.2d. 297.

Ty & James know that fraud is intermingled throughout their studies on Daniel and Revelation, so how could they answer to some one that is not deceived by their agenda. Ty & James are not the only ministers that you allow air time to present the error of a past generation. The below names also refuse to answer a Bible question that differs from their understanding. But there is one way that I receive a reply from these ministers and here is how it always takes place.

Just ask a question about money, then they will always put the pen to the paper. They do not want anything difficult or to be confused by any thing new. They are of the group spoken about on page 609 of Great Controversy. "Every new truth has made it's way against hatred and opposition." Great Controversy 609.

Having personally witnessed both opposition and hatred, only forces me to my knees, it lands on Jesus first, the same with praise, He receives all the praise and credit. Linda, there is not enough wet blankets in the whole world to extinguish the spark of truth that these ministers are desperate to suppress, and you are just giggling along with them. The very message that will be proclaimed during the Loud Cry period "They will see only something which in their blindness they think dangerous, something which will arouse their fears, and they will brace themselves to resist it. Because the Lord does not work according to their ideas and expectations, they will oppose the work. Why, they say, 'should not we know the Spirit of God, when we have been in the work so many years?'" Review and Herald, December 23, 1890

Linda, it is absolutely necessary for us to not be in the wrong group when the below scheduled meeting takes place during the "7th trumpet and 7th plague." "Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, which say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie; behold, I will make them to come and worship before thy feet, and to know that I have loved thee." Revelation 3:9.

The false shepherds in Adventism will make up a large segment of those who will bow at the saints feet in true worship. They wish that they could die at this point in time, but they are not allowed to die. The Bible says, "and in those days shall men seek death, and shall not find it; and shall desire to die, and death shall flee from them." Revelation 9:6.

Sincerely,

ED WHITE

P.S. To read some of the truth that these ministers are desperate to suppress, read my book "Revelation for Children's Lips to Proclaim."

[Johann]

Linda's and Joseph's Dreams

When we were studying the Sabbath School lesson on the fufillment of Josep's Dreams I was reminded of Linda's dream.

Linda was a very timid person. The first time she was to sing for Danny she asked him to turn his back to her so she would be able to sing. Later they got married - and later the 3ABN venture was launched. Linda wondered what her role was, and Danny told her she could write the thank-you cards to the donors. I think she did a good job writing those notes.

Then one night Linda had a dream where she was told that some day her role would be even more important than Danny's at the TV station. In her innocense she told Danny of her dream. He replied that this would never happen.

And when it was happening Danny did the same as Joseph's brothers had done. He sold Linda by his fictitious stories to get rid of her that her dream would not be fulfilled.

What can we learn from the story of Joseph?

This post has been edited by Johann: Dec 30 2006, 12:38 PM

[Observer]

Some people keep asking if Linda was 100 per-cent Innocent! Come on folks. That appears to be an attempt to discover some fault in her. Look long enough, and you will find it.

It just may be that one morning, while Linda was fixing breakfast for Danny, she needed to attend to a personal need. As a result, she may have burned his toast. If you want to charge her with that error, I will grant it. Don't we all know that when a woman is fixing breakfast for her man, she should put self aside, and not attend to any of her personal needs? Amazing that anyone would think otherwise!

The fundamental issue is: Did Linda give Danny Biblical grounds to divorce her? That is the issue. It is not whether or not she burned his toast one morning, or even six mornings.

[awesumtenor]

This whole topic is getting old. Too many accusations and not enough facts. Since everyone is so down on Danny does that mean that Linda is innocent of doing any wrong? She stayed for 20 years, I am sorry she had to know some of what was going on. She had perks. Maybe she had an affair maybe not, I don't know and neither does anybody else except Linda and the Dr.

Have you read any of Johann's posts? I think you should... read Pickle's posts while you are at it and keep a list of the discrepancies... you'll find the list of Danny's discrepancies long and growing longer.

If we don't like what is happening with 3ABN don't support it. Unless there is a legal issue there is really nothing any one can do and writing about it on a forum isn't going to change anything. If it was something would have happened by now. If Tommy is guilty than the athorities need to be involved. The conference is not going to do anything by what is written here.

Maybe... maybe not.

I do agree Linda was treated unfairly, looking in, but again none of us know everything that took place. We were not in her home when she was alone with Danny, we were not on the phone with her and the Dr. I think she made some poor choices, like the pregnancy test....maybe if everyone went on with their life Linda could get on with her's????

Seeing you are so sick of these threads... why does it matter what you think?

From what I have read, Danny thinks Linda is behind all of these rumors.

And if that is the case then he couldn't find his tuchas with both hands and a map... and if you looked up "clueless" his picture would be next to it.

Maybe if they stopped unless there is strong evidence, Linda could move on with what she wants to do, her ministry. Some of this talk is so ridiculous, who cares where Linda lives, if she can afford it who am I? So what if she has a pool, so does Danny. Why should she have any less than him if they built their home together for 20 years?

Just some thoughts I had floating around....

This whole sordid discussion came out of public claims on Danny's part that were unsolicited and his subsequent attempts to qualify those claims when many who heard them called "bovine excrement"... including those, like Johann, who knew him, knew her, knew the doctor and knew the whole thing was a crock from the word 'go'. Linda had no say in the matter and what she did say stands in stark contrast to the spin coming from Danny's camp.

If you need to lay this mess at someone's feet the droppings all lead to Danny's backside... not Linda's. The rest of this stuff is just making the size of the dunghill from whence this stuff has been dragged known. His dirty laundry would not be hanging in his front yard if he hadnt needed to rationalize his divorce and remarriage... but he got antsy when he realized he couldnt just show up on TV with a new wife out of the blue... and the church would not continue to patronize 3ABN if it was so plainly led by one who was not a member in good and regular standing... which would mean he could not maintain the lifestyle to which he had become accustomed...

and you, seeing evidence and first hand testimony of all of this are still trying to say it's Linda's fault?

Maybe you need to change position so you're standing down wind of what you're shoveling...

In His service,
Mr. J

[fallible humanbe...]

This whole topic is getting old. Too many accusations and not enough facts. Since everyone is so down on Danny does that mean that Linda is innocent of doing any wrong? She stayed for 20 years, I am sorry she had to know some of what was going on. She had perks. Maybe she had an affair maybe not, I don't know and neither does anybody else except Linda and the Dr.

Have you read any of Johann's posts? I think you should... read Pickle's posts while you are at it and keep a list of the discrepancies... you'll find the list of Danny's discrepancies long and growing longer.

Linda was at 3ABN for 20 years.

She was the VP and privy to all the goings on at 3ABN.

She sat in the board meeting when it was decided that Tommy would stay.

She knew who lived in what housing.

She knew where all the finances were going.

She knew about any internal strife and disagreement.

The point is, she knew.

She either agreed with it or she didn't - and until recently it seems that she agreed. To talk about burnt toast (Observer) is to either completely miss the point or an attempt to divert the spot light away from true facts. If you are uncomfortable with these facts it would seem to display a desire for revenge as opposed to discovery of the truth.

Danny has responded to accusations and attacks on him - something he should have avoided. He has made accusations against Linda - something he should have avoided. BUT, if you are going to try and sell people (be you "sister", Observer, watchbird or any other) that Linda has not spoken against Danny or others at 3ABN then you display an extreme level of naivety.

Now if you are going to admit that Linda was complict and knwoledegable of those things that transpired while she was there - you might be on the right path to finding some truth. If you are going to attempt to sweep under the rug her involvement or paint her (as was attempted in the Televangelist) as incompetent in her position and unaware of what was happening around her at 3ABN thereby absoving her of her responsibility in a number of the things you accuse Danny of - there can be no truth in you, nor in your claims and accusations.

Linda does bear the responsibility for her votes and actions while she was there. She also bears the responsibility for the informaiton she has provided (in violation of the contract she willingly signed) to those who post here.

The delight in the spurious announcement of Danny's stepping down was very indicative of the attitudes of some here - not what those who desire a change of heart reformation would want.

Until someone sees the property settlement agreement, the bank accounts of both for the past three years, all titles to property of any kind, pictures, etc., etc. no one here will be satisfied - and most of that documentation will never be made public - because it is private and nobody's business but the holder of such information (yes, Fran, I know you will chime in and say the State has a right , that is a given).

Linda knew.

She bears responsibility.

She did more than burn the toast.

- fhb

This post has been edited by fallible humanbeing: Dec 30 2006, 09:39 AM

[awesumtenor]

Linda was at 3ABN for 20 years.

She was the VP and privy to all the goings on at 3ABN.

She sat in the board meeting when it was decided that Tommy would stay.

She knew who lived in what housing.

She knew where all the finances were going.

She knew about any internal strife and disagreement.

The point is, she knew.

She either agreed with it or she didn't - and until recently it seems that she agreed. To talk about burnt toast (Observer) is to either completely miss the point or an attempt to divert the spot light away from true facts. If you are uncomfortable with these facts it would seem to display a desire for revenge as opposed to discovery of the truth.

Danny has responded to accusations and attacks on him - something he should have avoided. He has made accusations against Linda - something he should have avoided. BUT, if you are going to try and sell people (be you "sister", Observer, watchbird or any other) that Linda has not spoken against Danny or others at 3ABN then you display an extreme level of naivety.

Now if you are going to admit that Linda was complict and knwoledegable of those things that transpired while she was there - you might be on the right path to finding some truth. If you are going to attempt to sweep under the rug her involvement or paint her (as was attempted in the Televangelist) as incompetent in her position and unaware of what was happening around her at 3ABN thereby absoving her of her responsibility in a number of the things you accuse Danny of - there can be no truth in you, nor in your claims and accusations.

Linda does bear the responsibility for her votes and actions while she was there. She also bears the responsibility for the informaiton she has provided (in violation of the contract she willingly signed) to those who post here.

The delight in the spurious announcement of Danny's stepping down was very indicative of the attitudes of some here - not what those who desire a change of heart reformation would want.

Until someone sees the property settlement agreement, the bank accounts of both for the past three years, all titles to property of any kind, pictures, etc., etc. no one here will be satisfied - and most of that documentation will never be made public - because it is private and nobody's business but the holder of such information (yes, Fran, I know you will chime in and say the State has a right , that is a given).

Linda knew.

She bears responsibility.

She did more than burn the toast.

- fhb

And when that is discussed she will get her share... but that has nothing to do with the attempts to paint her as a scarlet woman to rationalize Danny's divorcing her and marrying Brandy. It is noteworthy in and of itself that theses attempts are being made to bring up things of which Linda is indeed guilty to take attention away from the things originally alleged of which the preponderance of the evidence says she was not...

The latest in a series of weapons of mass distraction from you and others who are playing Danny's spin meisters...

While we are on the subject of who was guilty of what, when do we get to the church itself? The .org is at least as guilty as Linda of doing what was easy rather than doing what was right.

The bottom line is neither the church's failure nor Linda's make Danny's failure, faults, flaws shortcomings or sins go away... and you and those inclined to your manner of thinking are just enabling him to avoid responsibility....so I guess that means you've done more than burn the toast too.

In His service,
Mr. J

[Fran]

.... (yes, Fran, I know you will chime in and say the State has a right , that is a given).
- fhb

Huuuuuuuuummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.

Yes, I am still here. Do I SMELL BAIT? Why didn't you call me by my nick name again?

Please read "Why Does He Do That" by Lundy Bancroft. You will find why Linda did what she did as well as why she continued for 20 years. You will also find out why Danny did/does what he did/does even to this day.

You might just find out why you do what you do?

You are a day late and a dollar short. Smelly - Smelly!!!!!