 Why Did Nick Miller Resign?, Bystander & Eye Witness tell all |
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 Feb 2 2007, 09:36 AM
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Hi Bystander and Eye Witness.
Since one of you might be Danny, since you have such good sources of information, since you're out to defend Danny for all your worth, I thought I'd ask you a question. Last September Attorney Nick Miller told me he could see things coming, and so he resigned. He really didn't tell me what those things were. Then Gailon told me something about Nick's being asked to resign upon request from the board after he had presented financial problems that he saw. Could you comment? What really happened, from your perspective? By the way, though I did not know it last September, I have since discovered that Nick Miller is the brother-in-law of a good friend of mine, someone I lived near from around 1976 to 1983. My friend went to a sister church in the same district, and my mom and his mother used to canvass together. This post has been edited by Pickle: Feb 9 2007, 07:50 AM |
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Feb 2 2007, 03:39 PM
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Bystander, I see you made the last post. Care to comment on this question?
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Feb 2 2007, 04:04 PM
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QUOTE(Pickle @ Feb 2 2007, 03:39 PM) [snapback]174763[/snapback] Bystander, I see you made the last post. Care to comment on this question? Pickle, Bystander doesn't believe in answering questions. That's obvious. I have posted mine repeatedly and even PMed him for a response. Still nothing. One must wonder about a person who refuses to answer questions about what they say, yet still maintains they are the one on the side of right and truth. Duane Clem -------------------- Duane Clem
It's not about religion, it's about a relationship. Gems of Wisdom "Lisa and Ronda are not Danny's biological father." -- wwjd, 2/8/07 "Watchbird, The facts prove the above lie." -- wwjd, 2/13/07 "Another lie that can be proven..." -- Bystander, 3/18/07 "The thing about lies is they can be proven." -- Aletheia, 3/22/07 "I am not here to argue" -- Aletheia, 4/24/07 "She didn't move to 3ABN, she moved to Illinois" -- Aletheia, 4/25/07 "Hope is liberal. 3abn is not." -- steffan, 6/9/07 "Danny Shelton does not decide what goes on the air, period." -- appletree, 8/22/07 http://www.save-3abn.com/ http://www.investigating3abn.info/ http://rescue3abn.blog.com/ http://www.abundantrest.org/?p=74 http://abundantrest.org/2007/02/18/3abn-sa...ons-retirement/ http://anewsabbathschool.blogspot.com/2006...ain-wrecks.html http://cafesda.blogspot.com/2006/08/atoday...bn-news_21.html http://www.atoday.com/email/2007/02/12/ http://spectrummagazine.typepad.com/the_sp...eans_and_e.html |
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Feb 2 2007, 04:36 PM
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QUOTE(Pickle @ Feb 2 2007, 08:36 AM) [snapback]174623[/snapback] Hi Bystander and Eye Witness. Since one of you might be Danny, since you have such good sources of information, since you're out to defend Danny for all your worth, I thought I'd ask you a question. Last September Attorney Nick Miller told me he could see things coming, and so he resigned. He really didn't tell me what those things were. Then Gailon told me something about Nick's being asked to resign upon request from the board after he had presented financial problems that he saw. Could you comment? What really happened, from your perspective? Pickle, I would have to do some homework on this before posting. That is what this forum always says. Do your homework before you comment. I have heard of Miller. I see by reading this post that there are already discrepancies. Miller says he resigned, Gailon says he was ask to resign. Big difference. If Gailons take on the subject is accurate and he was asked to resign that means there was some kind of differences between he and the board therefore we have, yet another, "disgruntled" employee, so to speak, so will watch things unfold as he sharpens his ax. Why is it you guys never hear from all the employees, volunteers, ect that were and are happy as clams at 3ABN? Why do you not post positive comments that you have heard through the years. I am sure that both of you have probably met people that came into the church because of the 3abn programming but none of that is ever mentioned. You seem to seek out only those that were unhappy for some reason or the other and have nothing but negative to say. As far as Miller is concerned maybe eyewitness will know more than I. We shall see..... QUOTE(ex3ABNemployee @ Feb 2 2007, 03:04 PM) [snapback]174768[/snapback] Pickle, Bystander doesn't believe in answering questions. That's obvious. I have posted mine repeatedly and even PMed him for a response. Still nothing. One must wonder about a person who refuses to answer questions about what they say, yet still maintains they are the one on the side of right and truth. Duane Clem Sorry Duane, at this point, I don't even know what your questions were. could you repeat them? I might or might not be able to answer them but that admission will surely be a first on this forum |
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Feb 2 2007, 04:39 PM
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Bystander,
Anyone who follows through on a request to resign by resigning has resigned. No discrepancy. When you dig a little, see if you can find out why high-level 3ABNers have violated their gentleman's agreement not to tell their side of the story if Nick doesn't tell his. |
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Feb 2 2007, 04:42 PM
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QUOTE(Pickle @ Feb 2 2007, 03:39 PM) [snapback]174781[/snapback] Bystander, Anyone who follows through on a request to resign by resigning has resigned. No discrepancy. When you dig a little, see if you can find out why high-level 3ABNers have violated their gentleman's agreement not to tell their side of the story if Nick doesn't tell his. Who has violated? I just said that I didn't have information on this subject. Obviously 3ABN has kept their "gentlements" agreement or I would have some information on the subject. My comment that he might have been ask to resign came from your post of what Gailon told you. Maybe Gailon did not keep a "gentlemans agreement" |
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Feb 2 2007, 05:35 PM
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QUOTE(Bystander @ Feb 2 2007, 04:42 PM) [snapback]174783[/snapback] Who has violated? I just said that I didn't have information on this subject. Obviously 3ABN has kept their "gentlements" agreement or I would have some information on the subject. My comment that he might have been ask to resign came from your post of what Gailon told you. Maybe Gailon did not keep a "gentlemans agreement" Huh? I stand by what I've written. |
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Feb 2 2007, 06:02 PM
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Bystander, you do know that membership in BSDA is free and all are welcome to come here and post, provided they obey the rules of the board.
Now to the credit of many who have posted negatively about Danny, his family, the 3ABN board, etc. , they have said that the programming and most of the people there are a blessing. I think their problem lies with administration. I believe that is understood by all. Now, I don't know, because I don't watch......it is not available in my area, and honestly would not watch if it was. Nothing against anyone, I just never have watched, and the few glimpses I have taken have not impressed to to include in my TV viewing schedule. QUOTE(Bystander @ Feb 2 2007, 02:36 PM) [snapback]174777[/snapback] Why is it you guys never hear from all the employees, volunteers, ect that were and are happy as clams at 3ABN? Why do you not post positive comments that you have heard through the years. I am sure that both of you have probably met people that came into the church because of the 3abn programming but none of that is ever mentioned. You seem to seek out only those that were unhappy for some reason or the other and have nothing but negative to say. As far as Miller is concerned maybe eyewitness will know more than I. We shall see..... -------------------- TTFN
Di And we know that all things work together for good to them that love God, to them who are the called according to his purpose---Romans 8:28 A great many people believe they are thinking when they are merely rearranging their prejudices.-- William James It is better to be silent and be thought a fool, than to speak and remove all doubt.- Mark Twain |
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Feb 3 2007, 06:53 AM
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QUOTE(Bystander @ Feb 3 2007, 12:42 AM) [snapback]174783[/snapback] Who has violated? I just said that I didn't have information on this subject. Obviously 3ABN has kept their "gentlements" agreement or I would have some information on the subject. My comment that he might have been ask to resign came from your post of what Gailon told you. Maybe Gailon did not keep a "gentlemans agreement" I would never have known of this if a high-ranking 3ABN staff member had kept quiet about it, as he should have done! This post has been edited by Johann: Feb 3 2007, 06:54 AM -------------------- "Any fact that needs to be disclosed should be put out now or as quickly as possible, because otherwise the bleeding will not end." (Attributed to Henry Kissinger) "He who passively accepts evil is as much involved in it as he who helps to perpetrate it" (Martin Luther King)  "The truth can lose nothing by close investigation". (1888 Materials 38) |
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Feb 3 2007, 09:30 AM
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QUOTE(Bystander @ Feb 2 2007, 04:36 PM) [snapback]174777[/snapback] Sorry Duane, at this point, I don't even know what your questions were. could you repeat them? I might or might not be able to answer them but that admission will surely be a first on this forum Well, here's a clue. They're under the topic "Unanswered Questions for Aletheia and Bystander" Aletheia did make a feeble attempt at answering when she realized she was backed into a corner. I have yet to hear anything from you. That tells me you don't stand by what you say. -------------------- Duane Clem
It's not about religion, it's about a relationship. Gems of Wisdom "Lisa and Ronda are not Danny's biological father." -- wwjd, 2/8/07 "Watchbird, The facts prove the above lie." -- wwjd, 2/13/07 "Another lie that can be proven..." -- Bystander, 3/18/07 "The thing about lies is they can be proven." -- Aletheia, 3/22/07 "I am not here to argue" -- Aletheia, 4/24/07 "She didn't move to 3ABN, she moved to Illinois" -- Aletheia, 4/25/07 "Hope is liberal. 3abn is not." -- steffan, 6/9/07 "Danny Shelton does not decide what goes on the air, period." -- appletree, 8/22/07 http://www.save-3abn.com/ http://www.investigating3abn.info/ http://rescue3abn.blog.com/ http://www.abundantrest.org/?p=74 http://abundantrest.org/2007/02/18/3abn-sa...ons-retirement/ http://anewsabbathschool.blogspot.com/2006...ain-wrecks.html http://cafesda.blogspot.com/2006/08/atoday...bn-news_21.html http://www.atoday.com/email/2007/02/12/ http://spectrummagazine.typepad.com/the_sp...eans_and_e.html |
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Feb 3 2007, 10:20 AM
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QUOTE(Johann @ Feb 3 2007, 04:53 AM) [snapback]175007[/snapback] I would never have known of this if a high-ranking 3ABN staff member had kept quiet about it, as he should have done! johann, i agree i would have not known either. I would also suggest that most here would not have known if someone had been quiet in Christlike manner. erik |
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Feb 3 2007, 01:29 PM
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QUOTE(erik @ Feb 3 2007, 11:20 AM) [snapback]175034[/snapback] johann, i agree i would have not known either. I would also suggest that most here would not have known if someone had been quiet in Christlike manner. erik When you get right down to it, many of us wouldn't be here if people had 1. kept their mouths shut, and 2. behaved in a Christlike manner. We obviously know that didn't happen. -------------------- "The pure and simple truth is rarely pure and never simple."
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Feb 9 2007, 07:50 AM
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Found any answers yet for why Nick Miller resigned?
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Feb 9 2007, 09:23 AM
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I'ed like to know too,it's been 7 days.
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Feb 11 2007, 07:33 PM
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I see there are folks here that should be able to answer this question.
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