A Suggetsted End To The Conflict Options

[inga]

Inga, I thought Solomon was Bethsheba son, anyway I cant look it up at this time.

Yes, you are correct that Solomon was the son of Bathsheba. It does demonstrate the astonishing mercy of God and how he can bring good out of evil. (Solomon was born to David and Bathsheba after they were married; thus he was not "illegitimate.")

However, the "illegitimate" son resulting from David's adultery was specifically taken by God as a judgment on David -- in spite of his long days of fasting and lying prostrate before the Lord.

I just wanted you to know tho I was in no way trying to imply no consequences for actions what I was saying was the just compensation was not given because God tempered it with love. The penalty for David was and should have been death but God so loved.
Sorry if I misquoted or seem to have implied something like no consequences, obviously 3ABN and the rest have already suffered some consequences for their actions. I was saying how loving God is that he tempers what should be the result of our sin due to his great love for us. Also often he only allowes the punishment not because he did not forgive but to be as a lesson to others not to repeat the same sin. David's resulting punishment was I believe for one thing as a deterrent for use today. Men (smiley face) already use David as an excuse just think how out of control we would be if David suffered no consequences.

I do appreciate your posts very much.

God is, indeed, incredibly loving while still being just. In fact, that's why Christ had to die -- that God could be just as well as merciful. Such self-sacrifice is something the minions of hell can never comprehend.

[Aunt B]

It is so true that forgiveness does not erase consequences. The first example we have of that on earth, is Eden.

God forgave Adam and Eve, yet they still had to leave the garden. They were never allowed to enter it again before they died. God restored them with the plan of salvation, but here on earth they had to live with many consequences of their sin. Leaving the garden was only the first

What God does is stay with us as we experience the consequences of our sin after we have repented. He is able (Romans 8:28) to work the consequences out for our good, and accomplish his plan as if we had not sinned.

It is also true that restitution is part of true repentance. It is one way to know that the repentance was genuine.

Aunt B

[PeacefulBe]

Mystery man, thanks for your comments.

Speaking for myself, I do believe in my heart I have forgiven Tommy, but because of the very nature of what he did, he must be prevented from doing it again. It has happened over and over and over. Forgiveness does not include overlooking sin, especially when there is the potential of others being harmed.

Well put, Duane!

My own message to Danny and Tommy:

There can be freedom from the dark burden, stress and shame of past sins when one accepts responsibility and allows accountability. This is where healing can begin.

This post has been edited by PeacefullyBewildered: Feb 8 2007, 04:23 PM

[Seraphim7]

The following bears repeating:

[size=1]Mystery man, thanks for your comments.

Speaking for myself, I do believe in my heart I have forgiven Tommy, but because of the very nature of what he did, he must be prevented from doing it again. It has happened over and over and over. Forgiveness does not include overlooking sin, especially when there is the potential of others being harmed.[/size]

This post has been edited by seraph|m: Mar 16 2007, 04:06 PM