Letter From Linda Shelton @ Www.lindashelton.org - Feb. '07, Linda Shelton demands the evidence be made public |
Letter From Linda Shelton @ Www.lindashelton.org - Feb. '07, Linda Shelton demands the evidence be made public |
Mar 22 2007, 08:13 PM
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-------------------- Here's the thing - "...if you pull "folks" into a fight you don't know what "weapon" they will bring." PrincessDrRe "A man who digs a pit for others to fall into, will end up falling into it himself. And if a man rolls a stone on someone, the stone will roll back on him". Said Solomon the wise, Proverbs 26:27 "No man can follow Christ and go astray." William H.P. Faunce "If I could hear Christ praying for me in the next room, I would not fear a million enemies. Yet distance makes no difference. He is praying for me." Robert M. McCheyne Click here for Linda Shelton's newly updated website |
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Mar 22 2007, 09:41 PM
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QUOTE(Panama_Pete @ Feb 28 2007, 07:56 PM) [snapback]181355[/snapback] 1. Linda Shelton has already responded to this. She says she had no power over how much employees were paid. Linda said she wanted to give Sandra Juarez a raise, but was overruled by her ex-husband, Danny Shelton. Danny does all hiring and firing. Period. Everybody knows that. You know it. I know it. So just stop with this nonsense. 2. Her Replacement = Tommy Shelton. We already know who "her replacement" was, so you might as well spell it out: Linda was replaced by a Reverend dismissed by another denomination. His name is Tommy Shelton, but I suppose just calling him "her replacement" sounds better? You have your marching orders to focus everyone's attention on demonizing Linda - and away from all other core issues? That's what you're getting paid to do as part of your "mending broken people" agenda? Just asking. 3. As for any trip to Norway, the Norwegian doctor, Arild Abrahamsen, has already written and distributed his account. 4. Linda lost her health insurance when she was summarily fired by her ex-husband. You know that. The Norwegian doctor, aware of what had happened, gave Linda access to his medical clinic after the loss of the insurance. Why keep trying to make that something it is not. Even you, yourself, say Linda Shelton was already divorced at that time. 5. I was in Thompsonville shortly after Danny asked for a divorce. I saw no such fawning as you describe. When Linda started the radio network on December 31, 1999, Danny went on the air shortly thereafter and said several times, "I have no vision for radio," with Linda Shelton sitting right next to him on the air. This certainly didn't look like bragging over Linda to me. It came across to me as a message to viewers saying, "Radio is not part of the Great Danny Shelton Vision, so please take note, everyone." But Linda's radio network succeeded anyway, despite Danny's admonition to his viewers. And things were never the same after that. Linda held a 3ABN Radio School beginning on Monday, March 8, 2004. It was a sold-out event. The Radio Network was succeeding. Danny could see that and he was not happy. If Danny was going to get rid of Linda, he'd have to do it before she added a dozen more radio stations. Danny demanded his divorce, the night before the radio school started, on Sunday, March 7, 2004. Danny just couldn't handle Linda's success and he was determined to put a stop to it. Linda, not being streetwise, could not suspect what was going on or how her demise was linked to her own success in radio. Mollie Steenson had gone to India, and I believe she was not in Thompsonville, on Sunday evening, March 7, 2004, when Danny demanded his divorce and put his plan into action. Mollie came back to Thompsonville and was in her office by midweek, but everything was already in motion. My opinion is that Mollie Steenson either couldn't be trusted to help destroy Linda Shelton, or Mollie wanted to distance herself from the planned event, so it was done while she, Mollie, was out of the country - in India, no less. Was that trip to India planned in advance by someone for such a reason? I've decided in my own mind that it was. 6. I don't see that "programming improved" with the Reverend Tommy Shelton sitting in Linda's old office. But that's in the eye of the beholder. Maybe an endless array of scolding, talking heads at 3ABN pleases you. There's nothing special about Shelley Quinn with her veiled excoriation using "John the Baptist" or John Lomacang's version of the same using his "Moses - Touch Not the Lord's Anointed" blatherments. The expoundings of these two strike me as nothing but desperate and weird. 6. Bystander, you keep regurgitating the same old garbage over and over trying so hard to re-write history. It is not working, so give it up. The reason you skip responding to Watchbird is that she knows the timeline, and you cannot deal with that; Your job is to deliver your mudballs to people who you think cannot tell the difference. 7. The entire 3ABN defense from the very beginning has been, "Nobody will be able to criticize us, because they are all stupid and will never be able to figure out what we did for sure," id est, "Nobody knows me and Linda" ad infinitum. Your only purpose on this forum. Bystander, is to muddy the waters with your little mudballs and to make sure it all stays muddy. Everybody can see that, so this must be about your personal paycheck. It certainly cannot be about truth or justice. Not knowing who you are, this is all about your own personal bank account, right? Are you willing to do anything to keep those paychecks coming, no matter what? Am I close? I think I am right on target. I think it is all about money, your money, Bystander, and nothing else. I think everything and everyone comes a distant second with you. You make some great points Pete. [don't let BS get to you ] -------------------- Thess. 2:16-17 - Now may our Lord Jesus Christ Himself, and our God and Father, who has loved us and given us everlasting consolation and good hope by grace, comfort your hearts and establish you in every good word and work."
[quote: fine art] "Instead we seem to be using sensationalism, emotionalism, moving lights and motivational speakers that are prepared to manipulate, by well chosen words, the minds of the listeners. It used to be, messages that were given by our pioneers were wrenched from the depths of the heart by the Holy Spirit. Humor was not added to get that laugh of entertainment. Drama was not introduced behind the sacred desk to glue your attention. Man's Rationale has replaced a cry for God's wisdom." "How To Be Free From Bitterness" ( booklet written by Jim Wilson of Community Christian Ministries, Moscow, Idaho - E-mail: ccm@moscow.com ) |
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Mar 22 2007, 09:49 PM
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QUOTE(mozart @ Mar 22 2007, 10:41 PM) [snapback]187199[/snapback] You make some great points Pete. [ don't let BS get to you ] Thanks for the chuckle. edited content...... This post has been edited by Clay: Mar 23 2007, 07:05 AM -------------------- WELCOME to BlackSDA from seraph|m, a BSDA Charter member.
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Mar 22 2007, 10:23 PM
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QUOTE(watchbird @ Feb 28 2007, 04:34 PM) [snapback]181295[/snapback] It is doubtful if 3abn will ever officialy admit anything about anything. But the reason Linda was dismissed is very plain.... She was dismissed because Danny didn't want her around any more. Isn't this pretty much what Walt Thompson said to her, when he wrote something to the effect that he didn't care about their personal problems all he knew was the president didn't want the vice-president anymore. (now that's cold) Now as to why he didn't want her around..... there is probably no single answer to that. And since speculating about motives is not a good thing to do, we shall probably have to be content to notice what things he has changed since he got rid of her. The most obvious, of course, is that he has a new wife..... one that is much younger. I'm not so sure we should concentrate on "younger woman" so much. nowadays lots of women look better at 40 than they did at 20 plus they got the smarts. sad to say some guys are afraid of smarts. (i'm not one of them. the smarter my wife is the easier it is on me. ) seriously tho', i think that's what is probably more accurate. why else would he be in such a panic to discredit her. he's terrified of what she knows. can anyone say the word: "gag"? what he seems to have forgotten or maybe never appreciated, however, is that she has class. But there may be other changes also that are significant in other areas.... types of programming.... doctrinal emphases..... the way workers are treated..... perhaps others more familiar with things both before and after Linda left may have noticed changes that may be significant. Of course, we do not know that spring 2004 was actually the watershed. It could be that Danny was already making changes.... at least some of which caused added friction between the two. Some have seen their going for a private jet plane as a significant watershed. Some have seen the court case over the property tax exemption as significant. It would be interesting to hear what others observed in the way of significant changes over the last 5 years or so. seems to me, power and control got the best of DS QUOTE(Nuggie @ Mar 1 2007, 05:53 AM) [snapback]181412[/snapback] OK, let me see if I've got this straight...you want us to believe that Linda had so much power at 3ABN that she controlled programming, employee morale and workers' salary? You want us to believe that Danny was impotent and powerless to do anything to break Linda's control. You want us to believe that Danny, the founder and person to whom God gave this wonderful "vision" let Linda get all the power and control everything he felt that the Lord specifically gave to him. Yet with all this power that she supposedly had the 3ABN board was quick to summarily dismiss her and bind her up with a gag order. Yeah...OK...and Bill Gates is just a front for Microsoft...I'm really the President... Oh kewl!!!!!!!!!! Can i borrow a few bucks? -------------------- Thess. 2:16-17 - Now may our Lord Jesus Christ Himself, and our God and Father, who has loved us and given us everlasting consolation and good hope by grace, comfort your hearts and establish you in every good word and work."
[quote: fine art] "Instead we seem to be using sensationalism, emotionalism, moving lights and motivational speakers that are prepared to manipulate, by well chosen words, the minds of the listeners. It used to be, messages that were given by our pioneers were wrenched from the depths of the heart by the Holy Spirit. Humor was not added to get that laugh of entertainment. Drama was not introduced behind the sacred desk to glue your attention. Man's Rationale has replaced a cry for God's wisdom." "How To Be Free From Bitterness" ( booklet written by Jim Wilson of Community Christian Ministries, Moscow, Idaho - E-mail: ccm@moscow.com ) |
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Mar 22 2007, 10:44 PM
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QUOTE(wwjd @ Mar 4 2007, 02:41 AM) [snapback]182204[/snapback] Duane, a post was written to you some time ago. I don't know if you didn't want to answer (which is your perogative) or if you just missed it, so I will ask again. Did you write a reply to TS's letter you say was sent to you. If so why was it not published also? My other question. You say all you are seeking is an apology, if so, wasn't that what the letter was about? Please don't say that there are others he needs to apologize to. If so, that is between him, them and God. You are only responsible for you and him alone. If that is his letter, he apologized a long time ago, so why are you here if that is all you wanted? AN APOLOGY??? FOR CRYING OUT LOUD!!! TS should buy him a "beamer" and praise the Lord he's not behind bars. Apology indeed!!! QUOTE(sonshineonme @ Mar 5 2007, 12:23 AM) [snapback]182543[/snapback] He will. I will pray for him. me too! PB Let's take a moment from this disheartening fiasco and pray for PB and her husband. -------------------- Thess. 2:16-17 - Now may our Lord Jesus Christ Himself, and our God and Father, who has loved us and given us everlasting consolation and good hope by grace, comfort your hearts and establish you in every good word and work."
[quote: fine art] "Instead we seem to be using sensationalism, emotionalism, moving lights and motivational speakers that are prepared to manipulate, by well chosen words, the minds of the listeners. It used to be, messages that were given by our pioneers were wrenched from the depths of the heart by the Holy Spirit. Humor was not added to get that laugh of entertainment. Drama was not introduced behind the sacred desk to glue your attention. Man's Rationale has replaced a cry for God's wisdom." "How To Be Free From Bitterness" ( booklet written by Jim Wilson of Community Christian Ministries, Moscow, Idaho - E-mail: ccm@moscow.com ) |
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Mar 27 2007, 06:41 PM
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QUOTE(Panama_Pete @ Feb 28 2007, 06:56 PM) [snapback]181355[/snapback] 1. Linda Shelton has already responded to this. She says she had no power over how much employees were paid. Linda said she wanted to give Sandra Juarez a raise, but was overruled by her ex-husband, Danny Shelton. Danny does all hiring and firing. Period. Everybody knows that. You know it. I know it. So just stop with this nonsense. 2. Her Replacement = Tommy Shelton. We already know who "her replacement" was, so you might as well spell it out: Linda was replaced by a Reverend dismissed by another denomination. His name is Tommy Shelton, but I suppose just calling him "her replacement" sounds better? You have your marching orders to focus everyone's attention on demonizing Linda - and away from all other core issues? That's what you're getting paid to do as part of your "mending broken people" agenda? Just asking. 3. As for any trip to Norway, the Norwegian doctor, Arild Abrahamsen, has already written and distributed his account. 4. Linda lost her health insurance when she was summarily fired by her ex-husband. You know that. The Norwegian doctor, aware of what had happened, gave Linda access to his medical clinic after the loss of the insurance. Why keep trying to make that something it is not. Even you, yourself, say Linda Shelton was already divorced at that time. 5. I was in Thompsonville shortly after Danny asked for a divorce. I saw no such fawning as you describe. When Linda started the radio network on December 31, 1999, Danny went on the air shortly thereafter and said several times, "I have no vision for radio," with Linda Shelton sitting right next to him on the air. This certainly didn't look like bragging over Linda to me. It came across to me as a message to viewers saying, "Radio is not part of the Great Danny Shelton Vision, so please take note, everyone." But Linda's radio network succeeded anyway, despite Danny's admonition to his viewers. And things were never the same after that. Linda held a 3ABN Radio School beginning on Monday, March 8, 2004. It was a sold-out event. The Radio Network was succeeding. Danny could see that and he was not happy. If Danny was going to get rid of Linda, he'd have to do it before she added a dozen more radio stations. Danny demanded his divorce, the night before the radio school started, on Sunday, March 7, 2004. Danny just couldn't handle Linda's success and he was determined to put a stop to it. Linda, not being streetwise, could not suspect what was going on or how her demise was linked to her own success in radio. Mollie Steenson had gone to India, and I believe she was not in Thompsonville, on Sunday evening, March 7, 2004, when Danny demanded his divorce and put his plan into action. Mollie came back to Thompsonville and was in her office by midweek, but everything was already in motion. My opinion is that Mollie Steenson either couldn't be trusted to help destroy Linda Shelton, or Mollie wanted to distance herself from the planned event, so it was done while she, Mollie, was out of the country - in India, no less. Was that trip to India planned in advance by someone for such a reason? I've decided in my own mind that it was. 6. I don't see that "programming improved" with the Reverend Tommy Shelton sitting in Linda's old office. But that's in the eye of the beholder. Maybe an endless array of scolding, talking heads at 3ABN pleases you. There's nothing special about Shelley Quinn with her veiled excoriation using "John the Baptist" or John Lomacang's version of the same using his "Moses - Touch Not the Lord's Anointed" blatherments. The expoundings of these two strike me as nothing but desperate and weird. 6. Bystander, you keep regurgitating the same old garbage over and over trying so hard to re-write history. It is not working, so give it up. The reason you skip responding to Watchbird is that she knows the timeline, and you cannot deal with that; Your job is to deliver your mudballs to people who you think cannot tell the difference. 7. The entire 3ABN defense from the very beginning has been, "Nobody will be able to criticize us, because they are all stupid and will never be able to figure out what we did for sure," id est, "Nobody knows me and Linda" ad infinitum. Your only purpose on this forum. Bystander, is to muddy the waters with your little mudballs and to make sure it all stays muddy. Everybody can see that, so this must be about your personal paycheck. It certainly cannot be about truth or justice. Not knowing who you are, this is all about your own personal bank account, right? Are you willing to do anything to keep those paychecks coming, no matter what? Am I close? I think I am right on target. I think it is all about money, your money, Bystander, and nothing else. I think everything and everyone comes a distant second with you. Pete, this was very well stated. Thank you! Kudos! -------------------- Here's the thing - "...if you pull "folks" into a fight you don't know what "weapon" they will bring." PrincessDrRe "A man who digs a pit for others to fall into, will end up falling into it himself. And if a man rolls a stone on someone, the stone will roll back on him". Said Solomon the wise, Proverbs 26:27 "No man can follow Christ and go astray." William H.P. Faunce "If I could hear Christ praying for me in the next room, I would not fear a million enemies. Yet distance makes no difference. He is praying for me." Robert M. McCheyne Click here for Linda Shelton's newly updated website |
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May 7 2007, 11:13 PM
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QUOTE(sonshineonme @ Feb 14 2007, 11:18 PM) [snapback]178392[/snapback] NOTE: Her letter of demand, posted March 2nd, 2007 now on her website. To go right there, click here Linda's website In keeping with Linda Shelton requiring an open and transparent ASI sponsored hearing, Linda has now published a letter that includes a clear demand that 3ABN and Danny Shelton produce the evidence they claim to have for inspection and verification to the entire church membership and to the stockholders in the pews. Danny Shelton in various forms and under various alias has repeatedly referenced evidence that he claims to have thereby giving him a basis for divorce and remarriage. The chairman of 3ABN on AToday has made it clear they have no proof of an adulterous affair. Linda Shelton and Arild Abrahamsen have repeatedly asserted that there is no basis for divorce, that no inappropriate relationship occurred and that there is no evidence to support the Danny Shelton claims. We have repeatedly asserted that if there is no proof, then a remarriage would constitute an adulterous relationship. Danny Shelton was married at 3ABN in March 2006 to a Brandy Murray, a 3ABN employee that reportedly arrived at 3ABN of Thompsonville in July of 2004. Here is the letter from Linda in its entirety and is also available at www.LindaShelton.org and on www.save3ABN.com . I believe it reflects the same Linda, a bit stronger and less naive than in the past, but as deeply committed to her relationship with the Lord as we all remember so well on that porch at 3ABN. Linda Shelton does respond to e-mail and will be happy to have a concert or a deeply spiritual service at your location, wherever you may be. February, 2007 My warmest greetings, A couple approached me, with tears in their eyes, and said, "We have just missed you and we wanted to see you to make sure you were okay." As I saw the pain in their eyes, over the events that have transpired in my life in the last few years, it was as if my heart was pierced again. "We are just so happy to see you smiling, in church and still serving God." Our meeting took place a few months ago at the Bible Chapel Seventh-day Adventist Church, where I am a member. I enjoyed my visit with this caring Christian couple and the compassion and love they showed toward me. Some people act surprised that I am still a member of the SDA church. But why? God is still the same awesome God that He always has been, the incredible Bible truths embraced by the Seventh-day Adventists are still just as true today as they ever were and although a "thousand shall fall on my right and a thousand fall on my left" nothing will ever change these facts. We must hold firm to our faith during troubled times! Many have written to me over the past many months asking me to update my website. This I have prayerfully considered for quite some time, nearly a year. Quite frankly, I just have not known what to say. I feel that this scandal has made a large, festering open wound in my Church. Perhaps the truth revealed will ultimately bring the healing that everyone needs. Then we can grieve together and move on. I am certain, in essence, I have died a thousand deaths over the events of the last couple of years. But, with the Lords blessing, I will try to address issues which have been brought to my attention in the kindest manner possible. For the first time in nearly three years I will not simply deny the accusations, but will directly address certain issues. I do not take pleasure in speaking of these things. I think I have always been the one who would rather receive hurt, than be the one to inflict hurt upon others. But during the course of this last year I learned some valuable lessons through Dr. Mable Dunbar of Pollys Place Network, she has been an incredible support and help to me. Mable is a woman who truly loves the Lord and is not afraid to stand up for what she believes is right, even if a whole army would stand against her. Pollys Place Network is a ministry which empowers abused lives and aids them through their difficult circumstances. It is a marvelous organization and so needed for this age when Satan has focused his wrath upon breaking up the security and circle of love God intended for our families. I videotaped some interviews, for Pollys Place, at the SDA Conference office in Spokane, Washington with several individuals who had been through incredibly painful situations. Each of them, in essence, had the same healing story. It was when they were able to come forward and expressed the truth about what happened to them, that their healing came. Inspired by these individuals, now I can accept and believe it is Gods job to protect the ministry I have loved and co-founded, and its my right and my healing to tell the truth about what has occurred. I am co-authoring a book and its purpose is to share the silver lining of the amazing lessons the Lord has taught me through this crisis. I feel the Lord has lifted a veil and allowed me to see the world that He sees, a world far different than we see. I see that the darts of false allegations that Satan has thrown toward me and my ministry were not directed solely for my downfall, but the aim was much wider. Although I was the apparent target, Satan was attempting to destroy the ministry I loved and co-founded and cripple the witness of the Seventh-day Adventist Church. My perspective has been forever changed through my experiences and my book will give me the opportunity to share these lessons more fully with all of you. (I will keep you posted as to the release date of this book.) John Knox once said, "Kings (or leaders) have not an absolute power to do in their government what pleases them, but their power is limited by Gods Word; so that if they strike where God has not commanded, they are but murderers; and if they spare where God has commanded to strike, they and their thrones are criminal and guilty of the wickedness which abounds upon the face of the earth, for lack of punishment." John knew his Bible. It is a Biblical principle that if we see a wrong and only look the other way or feebly say, "I will let the Lord deal with that one," then that wickedness is applied to our slate, plain and simple. The most devastating blow a televangelist can get is the false accusation of adultery. Although I have already made this statement on my website I want to address those of you who have loved and valued my Christianity, integrity and my ministry for the 19 years that I was at 3ABN. I want to clearly emphasize that I was 100% faithful to my husband. I loved, trusted and believed in him to a fault. Imagine my shock when I realized that the false allegations in the form of libel, slander and defamation directed my way were initiated by two of the closest people to me on planet earth; one was my beloved partner and the other was my closest lady friend. I loved them both and trusted them both to the point that their close communication did not bother me in the least. I know that sounds naive, but I did not believe that Dan would do anything that would harm the ministry we had built together. In 2004 there was a tremendous outcry at my departure. There was suspicion over how swiftly I was fired from my position and divorced. There was suspicion over the fact that I never had the opportunity to talk to the Board and defend myself. There was suspicion over the fact that every trace of my presence was completely cleared out of the campus of 3ABN, even before my termination, as well as the website, television and radio broadcasts. I was made a sacrificial lamb in a scheme calculated to remove me from both my home and my ministry through an orchestrated campaign of malicious lies circulated around the globe. No words can begin to describe the absolute agony this has brought to my life, but there are other victims as well, and may God bless and spare the young lives and tender souls who have also felt the stinging thrust of this sword of scandal. It has completely broken my heart to see the emails and letters which have come from the Chairman of the Board, Dan and others at 3ABN, to hear of the television and radio programs where erroneous references have been made to the situation, to watch the ministry that I helped build with much devotion used to destroy me and also to hear of the reports of what is being said on the SDA chat sites about me today by those bent on my destruction...nearly three years later. It was the false accusation of adultery which caused the loss of my marriage, my reputation, my employment, and everything else. I challenge the 3ABN Board to produce the "irrefutable evidence" which caused a co-founder, a life-time Board member, Vice-President and Secretary of the Board to be removed in that May, 2004 meeting! I am asking, no demanding, that the information is made public, at my request! Cast aside these pretended desires to "spare me"! The world is waiting with baited breath! The stakes are high. I, as well as others, have personally experienced electronic surveillance, email theft, interception of cell phone calls, post divorce entry into my private residence to the point where charges were filed with the police. It is not easy to live your life when you feel that you can never know for sure if you are being followed, watched or recorded...even now. I have had invitations to do ministry thwarted because of continued allegations by those, who, like wolves in sheeps clothing, attempted to stop my ministry. I want to make this absolutely clear: I left my home because I was not safe, I was not welcome. I was witnessing the murder of my reputation and ministry day by day. I stayed as long as I felt I could. I hoped, believed and prayed that things would change but they only got worse. The statements made that I left my husband for another man are absolutely and totally false. Any thinking person would realize that I had everything a Christian woman could have wanted in this life: a husband I loved and the opportunity to minister to millions of people about the tremendous love of my Lord and Savior Jesus Christ, though the ministry that we spent so many years building together. Although two of the people who I loved best have called me "Gomer", yet a more accurate term would be "Hosea", which I would only discover later. But I prefer simply, Linda, "SAVED by the Blood of the Lamb!" I do not visit the chat sites. This has been a mega-trial for me and my way of coping has been to try and focus on other things. I realize that the individuals which make up our Church need healing from this disaster too. And perhaps the chat sites have served to help people give expression to their frustrations and hurts in this situation. I am grateful to each of you who have prayed and interceded for me. It has meant so much during my dark days. You’ll never know just how much! Now my kids are grown and I am alone...but not really alone, although I have not husband. Now I belong to everyone and everyone belongs to me! And I still sing, "Thank you for being my family, thank you for being my friends: May God bless and keep you in all that you may do until we meet again!" It is my goal to just make your journey and mine a little lighter and brighter. I have faith that the Lord still has a work for me to do, a new ministry. I am ready and available for church services, week of prayer, concerts, etc. as the Lord opens the doors. I do not know what my future holds, but God does and that's enough for me. Just in closing I want to make an appeal to you to get out your binoculars, dust them off, bring them into focus and then search... Love your neighbor enough to be a Good Samaritan. When he is broken and bleeding in the middle of the road, focus your binoculars with the love of Christ, but don't stop there, reach out and meet his need in his time of crisis. Christianity is not something that "just happens". True Christianity occurs when a decided action is taken...when we search, when we fill a need, when we mend a broken heart and when we are just "there" for hurting people. There is a lot of them. But there are too few Christians who focus their binoculars with love. Thank you for being my family! Stay close to the Shepherd! Blessings to you and yours Linda Shelton -------------------- Here's the thing - "...if you pull "folks" into a fight you don't know what "weapon" they will bring." PrincessDrRe "A man who digs a pit for others to fall into, will end up falling into it himself. And if a man rolls a stone on someone, the stone will roll back on him". Said Solomon the wise, Proverbs 26:27 "No man can follow Christ and go astray." William H.P. Faunce "If I could hear Christ praying for me in the next room, I would not fear a million enemies. Yet distance makes no difference. He is praying for me." Robert M. McCheyne Click here for Linda Shelton's newly updated website |
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May 8 2007, 01:58 AM
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QUOTE(sonshineonme @ Mar 27 2007, 07:41 PM) [snapback]188311[/snapback] Pete, this was very well stated. Thank you! Kudos! Well stated? Pete and SSOM I got a suggestion for you. Why don't you act like adults and call the CFO at 3abn. Ask him who set the salaries for the production people. Next ask him how she wanted salaries to work for the truck crew where they would be paid practically nothing and even less if they were a passenger in the truck as opposed to the driver. Ask him what a nightmare that created for the accounting department. Next, ask to speak to Linda's personal assistant and secretary who worked for many years for Linda. Then, ask her if Linda set salaries for production people and if it was she that decided if anyone would get a raise, how much of one, or, not any at all. When you find that the answers from 2 different people are the same, then it would seem you could conclude that Linda may not be telling the truth. And, if she isn't, how many other things has she not told the truth on? It would be a lot of trouble but, you could always recruit some of those employees who went to her (her secretary) to ask for a raise and through her secretary, turned them down. When your done with those assignments, then you could call Mollie and ask her who does 95% of the hiring and firing. It isn't Danny. To be even more detailed, even though Mollie does most of it if that person is going into production, the production manager certainly has a big say if he wants to take on that person in his department. Linda was not only production manager, she was Vice President. She had plenty to say about who would work in her department. How funny that you all think that Danny has time to do all these corrupt things, like doctoring books, blackballing Linda, work on people like DB to join with him, travel constantly, is aware of everybody that comes and goes at 3abn, is constantly hatching plans with those that work for him, sets everybody's salaries, rules the board, runs the church (which is conference) and still, still has time to hire and fire everyone. Now that is one incredible man. Maybe the ignorance shown here on these subjects is because you can't comprehend the immensity of the ministry complex, old and new, the grounds the different buildings, departments and then they have approx 150 employees right there with probably 50 more elsewhere, especially 3abn Russia. So if that is why you can't seem to comprehend that it is impossible For Danny to be all seeing and all knowing and involved in anything that moves, please, get some pictures, books, descriptions, or better yet go there yourself to check it out. Maybe then you will see the foolishness of your accusations. QUOTE(sonshineonme @ Mar 27 2007, 07:41 PM) [snapback]188311[/snapback] Pete, this was very well stated. Thank you! Kudos! oopps forgot something. If your scenerio about radio was correct Pete, then why did the radio department keep chugging right along adding more and more stations. If it was such a sore spot Danny would have done away with it. Sorry friend. The take on radio is one of the more ridiculous things I have read here and that is saying something. |
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May 8 2007, 02:19 AM
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QUOTE(steffan @ May 8 2007, 03:58 AM) [snapback]194581[/snapback] Well stated? Pete and SSOM I got a suggestion for you. Why don't you act like adults and call the CFO at 3abn. Ask him who set the salaries for the production people. Next ask him how she wanted salaries to work for the truck crew where they would be paid practically nothing and even less if they were a passenger in the truck as opposed to the driver. Ask him what a nightmare that created for the accounting department. Next, ask to speak to Linda's personal assistant and secretary who worked for many years for Linda. Then, ask her if Linda set salaries for production people and if it was she that decided if anyone would get a raise, how much of one, or, not any at all. When you find that the answers from 2 different people are the same, then it would seem you could conclude that Linda may not be telling the truth. And, if she isn't, how many other things has she not told the truth on? It would be a lot of trouble but, you could always recruit some of those employees who went to her (her secretary) to ask for a raise and through her secretary, turned them down. When your done with those assignments, then you could call Mollie and ask her who does 95% of the hiring and firing. It isn't Danny. To be even more detailed, even though Mollie does most of it if that person is going into production, the production manager certainly has a big say if he wants to take on that person in his department. Linda was not only production manager, she was Vice President. She had plenty to say about who would work in her department. How funny that you all think that Danny has time to do all these corrupt things, like doctoring books, blackballing Linda, work on people like DB to join with him, travel constantly, is aware of everybody that comes and goes at 3abn, is constantly hatching plans with those that work for him, sets everybody's salaries, rules the board, runs the church (which is conference) and still, still has time to hire and fire everyone. Now that is one incredible man. Maybe the ignorance shown here on these subjects is because you can't comprehend the immensity of the ministry complex, old and new, the grounds the different buildings, departments and then they have approx 150 employees right there with probably 50 more elsewhere, especially 3abn Russia. So if that is why you can't seem to comprehend that it is impossible For Danny to be all seeing and all knowing and involved in anything that moves, please, get some pictures, books, descriptions, or better yet go there yourself to check it out. Maybe then you will see the foolishness of your accusations. oopps forgot something. If your scenerio about radio was correct Pete, then why did the radio department keep chugging right along adding more and more stations. If it was such a sore spot Danny would have done away with it. Sorry friend. The take on radio is one of the more ridiculous things I have read here and that is saying something. It is like Eirene never missed a beat. Steffan picked up right where she left off. I wish they would tell how they really feel. |
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May 8 2007, 10:22 AM
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QUOTE(Whtz Happenin @ May 8 2007, 04:19 AM) [snapback]194582[/snapback] It is like Eirene never missed a beat. Steffan picked up right where she left off. I wish they would tell how they really feel. that will have to happen when they get out of the sin bin... steffan is serving a 2 minute minor for cross-checking and eirene has a 5 minute major for misconduct...both run the risk of game misconducts and ejections if they persist tho... With apologies to Lord Stanley... In His service, Mr. J -------------------- There is no one more dangerous than one who thinks he knows God with a mind that is ignorant - Dr. Lewis Anthony
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May 8 2007, 10:46 AM
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Ok, so this is the umphteenth time we have heard Danny, and the clones mention about calling him and he weill answer. Please, somebody let's take up this challenge. Somebody call 3ABN, as for Danny(CFO, walt who ever), and say that Steffan and the rest of his supporters here at BSDA said we could call and get the answers to the questions he has list. Can somebody help us out here, and bring back are report. Once of their main claims is that nobody ever called Danny to ask him anything.............except Bob, who they then called a pest, etc., but hey at least we can take that out of their arsernal. What do you say? Somebody?
QUOTE Well stated? Pete and SSOM I got a suggestion for you. Why don't you act like adults and call the CFO at 3abn. Ask him who set the salaries for the production people. Next ask him how she wanted salaries to work for the truck crew where they would be paid practically nothing and even less if they were a passenger in the truck as opposed to the driver. Ask him what a nightmare that created for the accounting department.
Next, ask to speak to Linda's personal assistant and secretary who worked for many years for Linda. Then, ask her if Linda set salaries for production people and if it was she that decided if anyone would get a raise, how much of one, or, not any at all............. -------------------- TTFN
Di And we know that all things work together for good to them that love God, to them who are the called according to his purpose---Romans 8:28 A great many people believe they are thinking when they are merely rearranging their prejudices.-- William James It is better to be silent and be thought a fool, than to speak and remove all doubt.- Mark Twain |
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May 8 2007, 11:21 AM
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Yes, someone please call. And see if you can get documentation to support the claims. For example, are they any memos by Linda or minutes of meetings that attribute these actions to her?
Personally, I would find such things quite helpful. Thus far all I have is her word that it wasn't her idea, and that someone came to her telling her this needed to be done. If she's lying I want to know, and I want to see documents that establish that. But it should be someone else that calls. If Larry hung up on Gailon, what do you think he will do if I call? |
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May 8 2007, 01:39 PM
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QUOTE(steffan @ May 8 2007, 02:58 AM) [snapback]194581[/snapback] Pete and SSOM I got a suggestion for you. Why don't you act like adults and call the CFO at 3abn. When I was at 3ABN, doing whatever it was I was doing, it was Danny Shelton who made the ultimate decisions concerning me. Mollie Steenson told me, herself, that final decisions were made by Danny. Another manager, on another occasion, told me the exact same thing when they were considering someone for employment. As for the CFO, past experience seems to indicate that the CFO isn't going to say anything to the outside world. As for the radio network, I was told ASI -- and others -- earmarked a big chunk of money to help launch it on December 31, 1999. Therefore, it wasn't politically feasible for Danny to forsake the backing of ASI, after ASI agreed to donate that money. As you know, Steffan, if the recently announced merger between 3ABN and Amazing Facts is completed as planned, ASI Missions will be the constituency calling the shots at 3ABN, and some of those people are enthusiastic about radio. Since we're talking production: Steffan, did you see any of those videos Linda made? What do you think of them? Do you think the people who helped make those videos did a professional job? Were you pleased with the results? What's your take? |
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May 8 2007, 01:58 PM
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QUOTE(princessdi @ May 8 2007, 09:46 AM) [snapback]194618[/snapback] Ok, so this is the umphteenth time we have heard Danny, and the clones mention about calling him and he weill answer. Please, somebody let's take up this challenge. Somebody call 3ABN, as for Danny(CFO, walt who ever), and say that Steffan and the rest of his supporters here at BSDA said we could call and get the answers to the questions he has list. Can somebody help us out here, and bring back are report. Once of their main claims is that nobody ever called Danny to ask him anything.............except Bob, who they then called a pest, etc., but hey at least we can take that out of their arsernal. What do you say? Somebody? I'm certain that my memory is correct that I have read posts here from people who have written DS and gotten replies (haven't those replies been shared?). There are numerous emails that are basically form letters, not personal or individual, which really means everyone asked the same direct questions, and got (more) general types answers - IOW, no answers. I personally, 3 (almost now) years ago wrote the MINISTERIAL staff at 3abn's website, asking very normal questions like "where is linda now? what has happened?", and NEVER got an any kind of an answer at all. I have emailed "walt" several times, about a year ago, and I could tell then that the replies were not all coming from the same person. Very clearly. I won't waste my time writing them anymore, I know their MO. It's been clear from the beginning, and no matter who or what tried to get involved to find out anything, they have never had any intention of telling any more then they have already alluded to. ALLUDED TO. Do you think I could accept it then? And now? No. And, I'm not the only one, unfortunately for them. -------------------- Here's the thing - "...if you pull "folks" into a fight you don't know what "weapon" they will bring." PrincessDrRe "A man who digs a pit for others to fall into, will end up falling into it himself. And if a man rolls a stone on someone, the stone will roll back on him". Said Solomon the wise, Proverbs 26:27 "No man can follow Christ and go astray." William H.P. Faunce "If I could hear Christ praying for me in the next room, I would not fear a million enemies. Yet distance makes no difference. He is praying for me." Robert M. McCheyne Click here for Linda Shelton's newly updated website |
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May 8 2007, 02:10 PM
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5,000 + posts Group: Administrator Posts: 11,143 Joined: 21-July 03 From: Northern California Member No.: 47 Gender: f |
Thank you Sonshine! I knew this, but just wanted it pointed out. I still find it hard to believe that any of the Dannyites even part their lips to say call 3ABn for anything. Bob, spent so much time with emails and calls to them, I even questioned his sanity(jk), but they called him a pest and said he was harrassing WT and DS with his constant asking of questions. They can't have it both ways. Now if they were going to answer these questions, I would think they would have answered Bob just to stop him from calling and writing. But hey, Danny said he was waiting on ASI's investigation, and ASI said they were in no position to investigate, and rightly so. So what is the problem now?
Ok, so now Steffan and Eirene(upon your return), Aletheia , Lee, FHB, and all the rest, please dont' ask anyone else to contact 3ABn. Nobody here is fool enought o believe that they will anwer the call or the email let alone the questions. Let it go! -------------------- TTFN
Di And we know that all things work together for good to them that love God, to them who are the called according to his purpose---Romans 8:28 A great many people believe they are thinking when they are merely rearranging their prejudices.-- William James It is better to be silent and be thought a fool, than to speak and remove all doubt.- Mark Twain |
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