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[Richard Sherwin]

Isn't this a white lie along the lines of spiritual adultery? Deceptive without actually telling a flat out lie? Same old same old.

Richard

I agree - this statement makes it sound like they don't know each other...knowing good and well that they do.

[PrincessDrRe]

FHB The Lord must be guiding both of our thoughts along the same line. Earlier, I too, was wondering, what, if any, had Mr. J contributed to the 3abn story. Just like Clay, he calls names, points fingers, and talks down to everyone that doesn't agree but I have failed to see where his "ire" comes from....

I do believe his strong statements come from a place of you get what you put out. Folks on here have called victims of molestation willing participants. Folks have been threatened with lawsuits and court. Folks have been called an outright lie.

You cannot possibly continue to throw mess around and not get some splash back of something on your shirt....

Isn't this a white lie along the lines of spiritual adultery? Deceptive without actually telling a flat out lie? Same old same old.

Sho' is.....

Kinda like when my Mother didn't want to talk to a lady in the neighborhood - and when she called she jumped in the tub and told me to tell her..."Tell her I'm in the tub and will call her back later..."

Technically - she wasn't lying...

[calvin]

Sera--your summary is incorrect. Bystander explained that he and wwjd are both sharing a computer. They did not create a "third" personality. It was a real person and what he had to say was true. They were not doing anything deceptive at all. The "third" person also was using their computer, who was a visiting nephew.

Lee is correct. There was no third personality, I am pretty sure of that. As Bystander stated in this thread, both bystander and wwjd where allowed back in after my investigation. By the way, I am well schooled in the operations and working the Internet Protocol (IP), having assigned IP addresses as a Network Manager with a 700 node network, and IT Director.

[PeacefulBe]

Lee is correct. There was no third personality, I am pretty sure of that. As Bystander stated in this thread, both bystander and wwjd where allowed back in after my investigation. By the way, I am well schooled in the operations and working the Internet Protocol (IP), having assigned IP addresses as a Network Manager with a 700 node network, and IT Director.

Calvin,

So dewayneholden, the nephew of either wwjd and Bystander (per Lee), was a separate user posting from a separate computer? I understand why his post was quickly erased but was dewayneholden permanently banned?

PB

This post has been edited by PeacefullyBewildered: Feb 26 2007, 12:00 AM

[Seraphim7]

I do believe his strong statements come from a place of you get what you put out. Folks on here have called victims of molestation willing participants. Folks have been threatened with lawsuits and court. Folks have been called an outright lie.

You cannot possibly continue to throw mess around and not get some splash back of something on your shirt....
Sho' is.....

Kinda like when my Mother didn't want to talk to a lady in the neighborhood - and when she called she jumped in the tub and told me to tell her..."Tell her I'm in the tub and will call her back later..."

Technically - she wasn't lying...

DrRe: And FHB's accusations of anger is simply another RED HERRING. In other words it is another lie to evade the Proven/Verifiable facts regarding the lies told by the by/wwjd. Which proves that they have no credibility...

BTW HH, where is that RED Herring?.

[calvin]

Calvin,

So dewayneholden, the nephew of either wwjd and Bystander (per Lee), was a separate user posting from a separate computer? I understand why his post was quickly erased but was dewayneholden permanently banned?

PB

Yes to both questions.

[awesumtenor]

Mr. J's anger is evident - however the reason is not so at this point.

yes, I have to be the "angry black man" in your conspiracy theory... I suppose you have to hang that on someone...

Mr. J. maybe you can share with us what your main point is in the whole 3ABN issue. I can't find, through searching your posts here in the 3ABN forum, what your main contention, well, any significant contention is. You seem very angry at the church, at 3ABN, at anything that doesn't align perfectly with your own personal theology. What evidence have you presented? What point do you have to make - other than railing at 3ABN?

I will tell you that if you will tell me how your throwing stones while hiding in the shadows to prevent them from being lobbed back at you is in any wise consistent with the Christianity you profess.

Many have been the object of your derision when they didn't deserve it.

There are over 2000 members of BSDA; quantify 'many'... then prove they were undeserving... like the victims of Tommy Shelton were undeserving of the spite and derision from your camp, the contemptible innuendos and claims of their being consenting partners for Tommy's proclivities... when you can show I have done *any* like that... including the persons in your camp... then there may be truth in this allegation...

You have held yourself up as a paragon of perfection claiming that any an all individuals that disagree with you even on a miniscule point are somehow from the Devil.

This is becoming a constant refrain from your camp... as I said to your boy wwjd... show me where I have claimed perfection in any wise...much less holding myself up as a 'paragon of perfection'... or that all who disagree with me are "from the devil". You claim I do it continually, so you should not have any difficulty citing myriad posts when I have stated such.

You cant because I have never made such claims.

You can quote scripture - that doesn't make you holy or sanctified or saved, after all the Devil knows scripture backwards and forwards. You can quote Mrs. White, that doesn't mean you alone have applied her guidance correctly.

Again, I have never claimed to be the sole correct interpreter of EGW... but thank you for acknowledging that my application of her guidance was, in fact, correct. I have never quoted a scripture at any time to anyone in order to effect justification, sanctification or to be endowed with any personal holiness so again, you are firmly in the realm of either false witness against me or puerile delusion; you choose which.

I fully expect to receive your wrath with this post - but in the name of the Lord I will endure whatever slings and arrows you decide to send my way. Why? Because I am sure that the Lord is in charge and I do not post without prayerful consideration before I do. Question me, belittle me, disparage me, cast dispersion on my character - but remember that God does guide and direct and you do not have the market cornered on his guidance and direction.

- FHB

For all of the questioning, belittling, disparagement ( and BTW, one casts *aspersion* on another's character... yeah; you've done that here too ) that you have done in this post, you have made two statements of truth... That my application of EGW is infact true and correct and that I am being guided by God. I am sure it wasn't your intent to acknowledge either... but as you said... sometimes you let God lead. the rest is your working out the haterade in your system.

I am sorry to inform you that you don't rate my wrath... none of you does. you do, however have my pity... which, as this post shows, is certain to inculcate your wrath... but I'm not concerned one way or the other; I've been called worse... by better people... who were man enough to show their faces and state their names.

Neither you nor anyone else in your camp has refuted anything I've said BTW... you've complained that it wasn't said nice enough for your liking; you've supposed that since I have generally been right, that I must think I am always right... which is an errant supposition at best and an outright lie at worst... you've danced around the issues and done your level best to make me the issue to take the heat off the actual discussion...but you have refuted zip...nada. nil.. nothing.. zippo.

And your constant bombardment of weapons of mass distraction doesn't change that.

In His service,
Mr. J

[Clay]

thats what I'm talkin bout.... everything Bro J said.... and said it well...

[PrincessDrRe]

Well alright!