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 Sep 3 2007, 05:45 PM
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Sep 3 2007, 06:30 PM
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QUOTE(Johann @ Sep 3 2007, 07:45 PM)  What was on 3ABN? Hi, Johan: I was just going to say that as I was passing by the TV on Sunday I heard Shelly Quinn interviewing a man & it piqued my interest. Evidently, he was a former child molester. Looking back at Sunday's schedule, it must've been her "Issues & Answers" program. This episode was entitled "Can Jesus Save the Worst?" When I tuned in, it was nearly over. She said that in a future program they would be addressing "recovery & redemption (or could it have been restitution?)" regarding the issue of child molestation. Anyway...it was a "Hmmm..." moment.  (I tried to post this yesterday just as the forum was fading out.) Blessings, Maggie |
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Sep 3 2007, 08:19 PM
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Ok, I just have to ask, I tired to resist, Y'all pray for me, ok? Why come they didn't have Tommy on there? That is just a ruckus!
Ok, I done said it. Please pray for me. QUOTE(maggiecttr @ Sep 3 2007, 05:30 PM) Hi, Johan:
I was just going to say that as I was passing by the TV on Sunday I heard Shelly Quinn interviewing a man & it piqued my interest. Evidently, he was a former child molester. Looking back at Sunday's schedule, it must've been her "Issues & Answers" program. This episode was entitled "Can Jesus Save the Worst?" When I tuned in, it was nearly over. She said that in a future program they would be addressing "recovery & redemption (or could it have been restitution?)" regarding the issue of child molestation. Anyway...it was a "Hmmm..." moment. (I tried to post this yesterday just as the forum was fading out.) Blessings, Maggie -------------------- TTFN
Di And we know that all things work together for good to them that love God, to them who are the called according to his purpose---Romans 8:28 A great many people believe they are thinking when they are merely rearranging their prejudices.-- William James It is better to be silent and be thought a fool, than to speak and remove all doubt.- Mark Twain |
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Sep 3 2007, 09:54 PM
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QUOTE(princessdi @ Sep 3 2007, 07:19 PM) Ok, I just have to ask, I tired to resist, Y'all pray for me, ok? Why come they didn't have Tommy on there? That is just a ruckus! Ok, I done said it. Please pray for me. I saw most of the program, passing through my moms and heard the topic so sat down and listened. The man who was on said (in my words as I remember it) that the first thing a child molester has to do for help is admit their guilt soooooooooo that is the answer to your question. (i know you weren't serious). The question I had that they never answered was has he kept himself away from children even though he is "cured" (my word)? |
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Sep 3 2007, 10:08 PM
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QUOTE(maggiecttr @ Sep 3 2007, 08:30 PM) I heard Shelly Quinn interviewing a man & it piqued my interest. Evidently, he was a former child molester. Looking back at Sunday's schedule, it must've been her "Issues & Answers" program. This episode was entitled "Can Jesus Save the Worst?" When I tuned in, it was nearly over. She said that in a future program they would be addressing "recovery & redemption (or could it have been restitution?)" regarding the issue of child molestation. Can Jesus save the worst? Yup. Can child molesters be "in recovery"? Absolutely. The rest of their lives. (Although I have yet to hear of a serial perp (more than one or two victims) who was willing to do the work and be held accountable long term--they typically get weary and/or angry and defensive and slink away anonymously, which for a pedophile is another word for "relapse". ) Can they be "former" or "recovered"? The jury is still out on that one. I wouldn't entrust my child to them to find out. I have heard of one who was totally open and accountable for awhile, but he is serving time now for slipping. Problem is, the kind of brain gymnastics that you have to be able to do to rationalize doing that to a child makes it really hard to see reality and accept consequences. You have to deny, blame the victim, minimize, rewrite the story, to the point where you honestly believe what you are saying. Your view of reality is so twisted that to expect you to see what you did and how important it is not to do it again is almost unrealistic. You can't afford to let yourself see the magnitude of what you have done--it would be overwhelming. So you diminish, blame, etc, which then lets you do it again, since it really is not that big a deal. Like trusting a schizophrenic to take their meds. When they are off of them and need them the worst, they don't believe they need them. Accountability has to be from the outside, because the internal controls are malfunctioning. At least that is my opinion. shepherdswife--who sincerely feels compassion for pedophiles. They were probably victims themselves at one point. But my compassion and understanding does not diminish my determination to keep kids safe and to give victims a voice. Nor my frustration at perpetrators lack of ability/willingness to see reality and take responsibility. |
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Sep 3 2007, 10:45 PM
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QUOTE(Shepherdswife @ Sep 3 2007, 10:08 PM) They were probably victims themselves at one point. Actually, the majority of pedophiles claim this, but less than 1 in 3 actually were. Found this out at a conference on pedophiles several months back. Claiming victimhood allows them some sympathy. The good news about this is, just because a person is victimized doesn't mean they're destined to become a pedophile themselves. I'm all for compassion, whether or not they were victimized. -------------------- "The entire world is falling apart because no one will admit they are wrong." -- Don Miller, Blue Like Jazz. |
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Sep 3 2007, 10:53 PM
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QUOTE(princessdi @ Sep 3 2007, 09:19 PM) Ok, I just have to ask, I tired to resist, Y'all pray for me, ok? Why come they didn't have Tommy on there? That is just a ruckus! Ok, I done said it. Please pray for me. Now, Di. Haven't you been paying attention? That would have required another ferry ride. -------------------- Duane Clem
It's not about religion, it's about a relationship. Gems of Wisdom "Lisa and Ronda are not Danny's biological father." -- wwjd, 2/8/07 "Watchbird, The facts prove the above lie." -- wwjd, 2/13/07 "Another lie that can be proven..." -- Bystander, 3/18/07 "The thing about lies is they can be proven." -- Aletheia, 3/22/07 "I am not here to argue" -- Aletheia, 4/24/07 "She didn't move to 3ABN, she moved to Illinois" -- Aletheia, 4/25/07 "Hope is liberal. 3abn is not." -- steffan, 6/9/07 "Danny Shelton does not decide what goes on the air, period." -- appletree, 8/22/07 http://www.save-3abn.com/ http://www.investigating3abn.info/ http://rescue3abn.blog.com/ http://www.abundantrest.org/?p=74 http://abundantrest.org/2007/02/18/3abn-sa...ons-retirement/ http://anewsabbathschool.blogspot.com/2006...ain-wrecks.html http://cafesda.blogspot.com/2006/08/atoday...bn-news_21.html http://www.atoday.com/email/2007/02/12/ http://spectrummagazine.typepad.com/the_sp...eans_and_e.html |
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Sep 3 2007, 10:55 PM
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QUOTE(SoulEspresso @ Sep 3 2007, 11:45 PM) Actually, the majority of pedophiles claim this, but less than 1 in 3 actually were. Found this out at a conference on pedophiles several months back. Claiming victimhood allows them some sympathy. The good news about this is, just because a person is victimized doesn't mean they're destined to become a pedophile themselves. I'm all for compassion, whether or not they were victimized. Thank you, SE. That comment is VERY much appreciated! 
-------------------- Duane Clem
It's not about religion, it's about a relationship. Gems of Wisdom "Lisa and Ronda are not Danny's biological father." -- wwjd, 2/8/07 "Watchbird, The facts prove the above lie." -- wwjd, 2/13/07 "Another lie that can be proven..." -- Bystander, 3/18/07 "The thing about lies is they can be proven." -- Aletheia, 3/22/07 "I am not here to argue" -- Aletheia, 4/24/07 "She didn't move to 3ABN, she moved to Illinois" -- Aletheia, 4/25/07 "Hope is liberal. 3abn is not." -- steffan, 6/9/07 "Danny Shelton does not decide what goes on the air, period." -- appletree, 8/22/07 http://www.save-3abn.com/ http://www.investigating3abn.info/ http://rescue3abn.blog.com/ http://www.abundantrest.org/?p=74 http://abundantrest.org/2007/02/18/3abn-sa...ons-retirement/ http://anewsabbathschool.blogspot.com/2006...ain-wrecks.html http://cafesda.blogspot.com/2006/08/atoday...bn-news_21.html http://www.atoday.com/email/2007/02/12/ http://spectrummagazine.typepad.com/the_sp...eans_and_e.html |
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Sep 3 2007, 11:28 PM
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QUOTE(SoulEspresso @ Sep 4 2007, 12:45 AM) Actually, the majority of pedophiles claim this, but less than 1 in 3 actually were. Found this out at a conference on pedophiles several months back. Claiming victimhood allows them some sympathy.
Very interesting... Thanks for that info... The good news about this is, just because a person is victimized doesn't mean they're destined to become a pedophile themselves. Absolutely! I'm all for compassion, whether or not they were victimized. Compassionate accountability--yup, those two words can go together! ... This post has been edited by Shepherdswife: Sep 3 2007, 11:29 PM |
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Sep 3 2007, 11:38 PM
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Yeah, I been paying attentioon. They had somebody they have yet to deny has aproblem in their midst and didn't have a show bout pedophiles, and now they need a show about one who is recovered. Now, a ferry ride is a lot less expensive that that private jet was. Ship Ahoy! LOL!!!
QUOTE(ex3ABNemployee @ Sep 3 2007, 09:53 PM) Now, Di. Haven't you been paying attention? That would have required another ferry ride. -------------------- TTFN
Di And we know that all things work together for good to them that love God, to them who are the called according to his purpose---Romans 8:28 A great many people believe they are thinking when they are merely rearranging their prejudices.-- William James It is better to be silent and be thought a fool, than to speak and remove all doubt.- Mark Twain |
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Sep 4 2007, 02:33 PM
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QUOTE(princessdi @ Sep 3 2007, 10:38 PM) Yeah, I been paying attentioon. They had somebody they have yet to deny has aproblem in their midst and didn't have a show bout pedophiles, and now they need a show about one who is recovered. Now, a ferry ride is a lot less expensive that that private jet was. Ship Ahoy! LOL!!! Ferry ride can still be too expensive while in hiding... Just a paint job to me; new colors, new styles... OOPS... sorry swept under the rug... sigh...  IMHO Rosyroi This post has been edited by Rosyroi: Sep 4 2007, 08:12 PM -------------------- "Joy, Love, Peace, Long Suffering, Gentleness, Goodness, Faith, Meekness, and Self Control are what being full of the Holy Spirit is all about." Galations 5. "Don't waste your time waiting and longing for large opportunities which may never come, but faitfully handle the little things that are always claiming your attention..." F.B. Meyers "Truth welcomes examination and doesn't need to defend itself, while deception hides in darkness and blames everyone else." Aunt B. 2007 "For GOD so LOVED you and me..." John 3:16 "I believe that there is a devil, and here's Satan's agenda. First, he doesn't want anyone having kids. Secondly, if they do conceive, he wants them killed. If they're not killed through abortion, he wants them neglected or abused physically, emotionally, sexually...One way or another, the legions of hell want to destroy children because children become the future adults and leaders. If they (legions) can warp or wound a child, he or she becomes a warped or wounded adult who passes on this affliction to the next generation". -Terry Randall in TIME Magazine, October 21, 1991 |
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