 Hospitalization Of Danny Shelton, Forwarded Announcement from Club Adventist |
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 Oct 8 2007, 08:50 AM
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..and they fired her on false pretenses. The charge was spiritual adultery. They had no proof of actual physical adultery,and only Danny's about phone calls, etc(their content) on anything else that might have been inappropriate. IOW, Danny had to board to act within his marriage. It had nothing to do with her job. However, because they switch far too easily between business and ministry when conventient, the lines got blurred. The board should have never "acted" at all, unless it was to remove them both until it got settled about exactly what was going on. Danny was tired of Linda, for whatever reason, and the board were his henchment. Simple.
AF? you mean the same AF who did NOT "merge with 3ABN? It is also established and correct that there is a contract with GC about programming, which is why they not acting as they should in this matter. GC should have absoutely no affiliation with any intentity that has this many issues, questions and allegations, surrounding it. But they can't act because their hands are tied. Which is another problem. That switiching between ministry and buisness needs to happen at the appropriate time. In the case of this contract between 3ABN and GC, 3ABN was thinking buisness and GC it seems was thinking ministry.....well at lesat in along the lines that they did not have a netowrk at that time and they would not have to foot the bill for an entire network, just "refer the programming. The should have started HopeTV back then, instead. QUOTE(simplysaved @ Oct 8 2007, 06:29 AM)  Company. Whether people want to admit it or not, Danny Shaelton did not fire Linda...the 3ABN Board of Directors did, including many of those individually held in high esteem. The fact that THEY--including other entities such as Amazing Facts--have not left nor have the desire to leave (to the best of my knowledge) seem to indicate that either (1) they agree; or (2) don't care about the past personal issues. They may be concerned about image, but not enough to leave.
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Di And we know that all things work together for good to them that love God, to them who are the called according to his purpose---Romans 8:28 A great many people believe they are thinking when they are merely rearranging their prejudices.-- William James It is better to be silent and be thought a fool, than to speak and remove all doubt.- Mark Twain |
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Oct 8 2007, 12:57 PM
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The reasons why Linda was fired is beside the point. It was a business decision that had to be made after the divorce. One of them had to go. To have Linda and Danny continue working there in their roles would have been troublesome for the continuation of the ministry. The board has a fiduciary responsibility to vote the best interest of the business and sometimes have to make painful and difficult decisions. Obliviously they thought Danny was more valuable to 3ABN than Linda. I can not believe anyone here after reading all that has been said would think the two of them continuing working together would be a good ideal.
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Oct 8 2007, 01:07 PM
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I am not suggesting that they woudl work together. Ia m suggesting that the board should have sidelined them both. They already were not on the air, until this mess was cleaned up. They should have done an thorourgh, imparital investigation. That is if they were interested in doing the right things, instead of rubber stamping Danny, afterall at that point he had no proof of adultery( and still has to provide some to this day). We know that because he was only claiming "spiritual adultery". Which doesn't exist as far as marriages are concerned. So their actions wre faulty and biased at best.
QUOTE(calvin @ Oct 8 2007, 11:57 AM) The reasons why Linda was fired is beside the point. It was a business decision that had to be made after the divorce. One of them had to go. To have Linda and Danny continue working there in their roles would have been troublesome for the continuation of the ministry. The board has a fiduciary responsibility to vote the best interest of the business and sometimes have to make painful and difficult decisions. Obliviously they thought Danny was more valuable to 3ABN than Linda. I can not believe anyone here after reading all that has been said would think the two of them continuing working together would be a good ideal. -------------------- TTFN
Di And we know that all things work together for good to them that love God, to them who are the called according to his purpose---Romans 8:28 A great many people believe they are thinking when they are merely rearranging their prejudices.-- William James It is better to be silent and be thought a fool, than to speak and remove all doubt.- Mark Twain |
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Oct 8 2007, 02:02 PM
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QUOTE(princessdi @ Oct 8 2007, 02:07 PM) I am not suggesting that they woudl work together. Ia m suggesting that the board should have sidelined them both. They already were not on the air, until this mess was cleaned up. They should have done an thorourgh, imparital investigation. That is if they were interested in doing the right things, instead of rubber stamping Danny, afterall at that point he had no proof of adultery( and still has to provide some to this day). We know that because he was only claiming "spiritual adultery". Which doesn't exist as far as marriages are concerned. So their actions wre faulty and biased at best. Yep that was another option, they could have fired them both. |
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Oct 8 2007, 08:46 PM
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QUOTE(calvin @ Oct 8 2007, 03:02 PM) Yep that was another option, they could have fired them both. Isn't "spiritual adultery" a theological term? |
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Oct 8 2007, 09:08 PM
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QUOTE(calvin @ Oct 7 2007, 09:29 PM) Two years salary as severance was fair by most business standards. She was compensated for her years of service to 3ABN and enjoyed all the perks while serving as an executive there. 3ABN does not own her anything, but then you already know how I feel about this. Can I then assume, Calvin, that you deem $250,000.00 fair severance pay for Danny as well? |
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 Oct 10 2007, 04:52 PM
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QUOTE(calvin @ Oct 8 2007, 08:57 PM) The reasons why Linda was fired is beside the point. It was a business decision that had to be made after the divorce. One of them had to go. To have Linda and Danny continue working there in their roles would have been troublesome for the continuation of the ministry. The board has a fiduciary responsibility to vote the best interest of the business and sometimes have to make painful and difficult decisions. Obliviously they thought Danny was more valuable to 3ABN than Linda. I can not believe anyone here after reading all that has been said would think the two of them continuing working together would be a good ideal. -------------------- "Any fact that needs to be disclosed should be put out now or as quickly as possible, because otherwise the bleeding will not end." (Attributed to Henry Kissinger) "He who passively accepts evil is as much involved in it as he who helps to perpetrate it" (Martin Luther King)  "The truth can lose nothing by close investigation". (1888 Materials 38) |
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Oct 10 2007, 09:13 PM
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QUOTE(calvin @ Oct 8 2007, 02:02 PM) Yep that was another option, they could have fired them both. IMO This would have been the right thing to do, had anyone on the board any guts. Leaders have to be willing to make hard decisions. Are there any leaders at 3ABN? -------------------- "The entire world is falling apart because no one will admit they are wrong." -- Don Miller, Blue Like Jazz. |
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Oct 11 2007, 10:40 AM
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QUOTE(calvin @ Oct 8 2007, 08:57 PM) The reasons why Linda was fired is beside the point. It was a business decision that had to be made after the divorce. One of them had to go. To have Linda and Danny continue working there in their roles would have been troublesome for the continuation of the ministry. The board has a fiduciary responsibility to vote the best interest of the business and sometimes have to make painful and difficult decisions. Obliviously they thought Danny was more valuable to 3ABN than Linda. I can not believe anyone here after reading all that has been said would think the two of them continuing working together would be a good ideal. Still thinking. . .  What makes you draw this conclusion? -------------------- "Any fact that needs to be disclosed should be put out now or as quickly as possible, because otherwise the bleeding will not end." (Attributed to Henry Kissinger) "He who passively accepts evil is as much involved in it as he who helps to perpetrate it" (Martin Luther King) "The truth can lose nothing by close investigation". (1888 Materials 38) |
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Oct 11 2007, 11:11 AM
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Yes, it is. It actually exists, but in context to what the COI were doing each time they "waundered after" the gods of the surrounding nations. They "strayed" from God and were "adulterous". This is how it was described in many text,a nd in the book of Hosea when talking about his wife, etc. The same can be said of us in many different ways, when we stray from God. However, it doesn't not exist between husband and wife. For Spiritual adultery" to occur one party much be God. Once, again, Danny is not God..
QUOTE(no_cults @ Oct 8 2007, 07:46 PM) Isn't "spiritual adultery" a theological term? -------------------- TTFN
Di And we know that all things work together for good to them that love God, to them who are the called according to his purpose---Romans 8:28 A great many people believe they are thinking when they are merely rearranging their prejudices.-- William James It is better to be silent and be thought a fool, than to speak and remove all doubt.- Mark Twain |
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Oct 11 2007, 11:29 AM
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QUOTE(calvin @ Oct 8 2007, 02:57 PM) The reasons why Linda was fired is beside the point. It was a business decision that had to be made after the divorce. Chronology check. Was Linda fired after the divorce? |
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Oct 11 2007, 11:50 AM
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QUOTE(Statrei @ Oct 11 2007, 07:29 PM) Chronology check. Was Linda fired after the divorce? A very serious question. Chronology was not taken into consideration. This post has been edited by Johann: Oct 11 2007, 11:57 AM -------------------- "Any fact that needs to be disclosed should be put out now or as quickly as possible, because otherwise the bleeding will not end." (Attributed to Henry Kissinger) "He who passively accepts evil is as much involved in it as he who helps to perpetrate it" (Martin Luther King) "The truth can lose nothing by close investigation". (1888 Materials 38) |
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Oct 11 2007, 12:29 PM
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She was fired before the divorce.
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Oct 11 2007, 01:20 PM
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QUOTE(Johann @ Oct 11 2007, 11:40 AM) Still thinking. . . What makes you draw this conclusion? Johann, I said what I said speaking from a practical position. Linda and Danny sitting on the porch holding hands on the set, patting Fluffy won’t play anymore. QUOTE(Statrei @ Oct 11 2007, 12:29 PM) Chronology check. Was Linda fired after the divorce? Does not matter, had the Linda/Danny relationship gotten so bad that the two of them working together effected the ongoing concern of 3ABN? Then the board has a responsibility to act in the best interest of 3ABN, regardless of who was at fault. It was not the board’s job to get to the bottom of this adultery thing as many people here seem to think. The board can’t make these two people love each other; they had to deal with the fallout and what that meant to 3abn. IMO |
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Oct 11 2007, 01:25 PM
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I'll grant you that, Calvin. Why, then, did the board make pronouncements on the divorce?
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