 An Unauthorized History Of 3abn, Chapter 4 (takin care of business...) |
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 May 2 2006, 10:09 AM
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QUOTE(simplysaved @ May 2 2006, 09:50 AM) [snapback]128783[/snapback] Not necessarily...if Higherground were adding details and information, that would be a reaso able conclusion.... Just as both sides "need" to be presented, it also has to be presented in dialog why this continues to be an issue for this Board as Linda has expressly asked that people move on....  that's the problem.... folks trying to move on while leaving the mess at 3abn right where it is as it continues to fester and get worse.... people cannot or will not move on when the problems remain unresolved.... -------------------- "you are as sick as your secrets...." -quote from Celebrity Rehab-
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May 2 2006, 11:02 AM
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Why is it that as good SDAs, we just hate to confront mess and deal with it ? If Jesus had dealt with the sin problem the same way that we want to deal with some of these troublesome issues, would we be anywhere near being saved today? Isn't it time that we get real?
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May 2 2006, 11:29 AM
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QUOTE(Change @ May 2 2006, 12:02 PM) [snapback]128794[/snapback] Why is it that as good SDAs, we just hate to confront mess and deal with it ? If Jesus had dealt with the sin problem the same way that we want to deal with some of these troublesome issues, would we be anywhere near being saved today? Isn't it time that we get real? Amen to that! We have put up so much with these sinners thinking they can get away with anything. We need to put our foot down sometime. If they don't wanna stop these sinful activities, then give 'em the boot. It's harsh, but we have to keep the church pure for our young people. |
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May 2 2006, 12:10 PM
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QUOTE(vonessa @ May 2 2006, 12:29 PM) [snapback]128799[/snapback] Amen to that! We have put up so much with these sinners thinking they can get away with anything. We need to put our foot down sometime. If they don't wanna stop these sinful activities, then give 'em the boot. It's harsh, but we have to keep the church pure for our young people. Vonessa, we are all sinners, in fact the church is the place for "sinners" who have decided that they need help with their sin problem... So the church will always be full of sinners who constantly need their Savior.... the church cannot be a place for people who don't think their sin is sin..... -------------------- "you are as sick as your secrets...." -quote from Celebrity Rehab-
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May 2 2006, 01:12 PM
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QUOTE(Clay @ May 2 2006, 11:09 AM) [snapback]128789[/snapback] that's the problem.... folks trying to move on while leaving the mess at 3abn right where it is as it continues to fester and get worse.... people cannot or will not move on when the problems remain unresolved.... To be quite honest. Do you think most SDA's would really even care? Like I said earlier, this kinda reminds me of walmart. I don't care how much dirt you dig up on Walmart, people are going to keep shopping there. Why? Because they are fulfilling a need. I don't care if this person writes 1000 pages about that man, people are still going to be buying his satellites and tuning in to his network. QUOTE(vonessa @ May 2 2006, 12:29 PM) [snapback]128799[/snapback] Amen to that! We have put up so much with these sinners thinking they can get away with anything. We need to put our foot down sometime. If they don't wanna stop these sinful activities, then give 'em the boot. It's harsh, but we have to keep the church pure for our young people.  If we do that, we will be keeping out church EMPTY for our young people. This post has been edited by higherground2003: May 2 2006, 01:10 PM |
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May 2 2006, 01:28 PM
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QUOTE(vonessa @ May 2 2006, 11:29 AM) [snapback]128799[/snapback] Amen to that! We have put up so much with these sinners thinking they can get away with anything. We need to put our foot down sometime. If they don't wanna stop these sinful activities, then give 'em the boot. It's harsh, but we have to keep the church pure for our young people. Whew! I'm glad you don't know my past or present sins, or I'd be in a heap of trouble...guess I'll just keep trying to stop my "sinful activities" so the church can stay pure...I would hate to feel the weight of your boot. This post has been edited by Nuggie: May 2 2006, 01:29 PM -------------------- Great minds discuss ideas; average minds discuss events; small minds discuss people.
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May 2 2006, 01:47 PM
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QUOTE(Nuggie @ May 2 2006, 02:28 PM) [snapback]128826[/snapback] Whew! I'm glad you don't know my past or present sins, or I'd be in a heap of trouble...guess I'll just keep trying to stop my "sinful activities" so the church can stay pure...I would hate to feel the weight of your boot. how do you know we don't know your past and present sins? we are everywhere you know.... 
-------------------- "you are as sick as your secrets...." -quote from Celebrity Rehab-
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May 2 2006, 01:57 PM
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QUOTE Whew! I'm glad you don't know my past or present sins, or I'd be in a heap of trouble...guess I'll just keep trying to stop my "sinful activities" so the church can stay pure...I would hate to feel the weight of your boot. I think you don't have to worry as I'm sure we have all had past or present sins in our lives. I know I have had. The thing that bothers me though with Danny & anyone else in his position is he is in the Public Eye & they proclaim to be "holier than thou". They have the do as I say not as I do attitude. -------------------- My second favorite household chore is ironing. My first one being -- hitting my head on the top bunk bed until I faint.
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May 2 2006, 02:03 PM
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QUOTE(Change @ May 2 2006, 12:02 PM) [snapback]128794[/snapback] Why is it that as good SDAs, we just hate to confront mess and deal with it ? If Jesus had dealt with the sin problem the same way that we want to deal with some of these troublesome issues, would we be anywhere near being saved today? Isn't it time that we get real? Oh, I DEFINITELY believe in confronting it...DIRECTLY TO A PERSON or moving on...that is being real. -------------------- "No weapon formed against YOU (Sarah--and every Believer/Servant of God) shall prosper and every tongue that rises against you in judgement you will condemn...."--Isaiah 54:17
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May 2 2006, 02:11 PM
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QUOTE(simplysaved @ May 2 2006, 03:03 PM) [snapback]128832[/snapback] Oh, I DEFINITELY believe in confronting it...DIRECTLY TO A PERSON or moving on...that is being real. fortunately there are more ways to confrontation than the one option you suggested.... -------------------- "you are as sick as your secrets...." -quote from Celebrity Rehab-
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May 2 2006, 02:38 PM
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QUOTE(Clay @ May 2 2006, 03:11 PM) [snapback]128835[/snapback] fortunately there are more ways to confrontation than the one option you suggested.... Perhaps, but it is scripture.....talking about them to everyone else but them is definitely not an effective one of them... -------------------- "No weapon formed against YOU (Sarah--and every Believer/Servant of God) shall prosper and every tongue that rises against you in judgement you will condemn...."--Isaiah 54:17
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May 2 2006, 02:45 PM
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QUOTE(simplysaved @ May 2 2006, 03:38 PM) [snapback]128839[/snapback] Perhaps, but it is scripture.....talking about them to everyone else but them is definitely not an effective one of them... That counsel is only applicable where the behavior is "secret." This is public behavior and susceptible to public comment, especially since it involves the person who made it all public. |
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May 2 2006, 02:54 PM
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Having talked at some length with Danny, Dr. Thompson, Kay Kuzma, Mark Finley, John Lomacang, and Mollie Steenson, I found that the security in being idolized through public perception incentivized further heinous actions and statements. I concluded that as long as they felt in full control of public perception, they would really have no incentive to consider making any fundamental changes, or backing away from the misery they were inflicting on people. As Clay says, one-on-one verbal confrontation is not the only option, however, it is an option that several of us who are posting here have vigorously pursued, but in vain.
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May 2 2006, 03:08 PM
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QUOTE(higherground2003 @ May 2 2006, 01:12 PM) [snapback]128824[/snapback] To be quite honest. Do you think most SDA's would really even care? Like I said earlier, this kinda reminds me of walmart. I don't care how much dirt you dig up on Walmart, people are going to keep shopping there. Why? Because they are fulfilling a need. I don't care if this person writes 1000 pages about that man, people are still going to be buying his satellites and tuning in to his network. I agree, there is a Wal-Mart mindset that says, "People are going to keep shopping there, anyway." On the other hand, how may people want a new Wal-Mart in their own neighborhood? How many people are going to "sign on" to Wal-Mart when it gets personal and up close? http://www.globest.com/news/531_531/baltimore/145364-1.html CROFTON, MD-The Greater Crofton Council has voted against Wal-Mart’s plan to build a 143,000-sf store in the town. The vote came down in a meeting attended by more than 300 area residents. During the meeting, city representatives and residents voiced their concerns about the traffic and crime the project could bring to the Anne Arundel County town, as well as potential damage to the environment. And with 3ABN: How many people are going to do the unpaid volunteer work of going to cable companies and saying, "Please, please put Danny's private corporation on the cable TV system? I really need to help Danny keep his horses fed." Or, "I think Danny needs to a bigger jet this year, I'll add a codicil to my will and make it happen." That could be a horse of a different color. |
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May 2 2006, 03:26 PM
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Now this is the first things I've seen on this thread I agree with. I can't even try to help him show on regualr cable when he's not living up to the network's name and mistreating his employees - in the name of Jesus.
He's th ekind of man who makes any religious leader look bad. It's really a shame that GC is still supporting him. QUOTE(Panama_Pete @ May 2 2006, 01:08 PM) [snapback]128848[/snapback] I agree, there is a Wal-Mart mindset that says, "People are going to keep shopping there, anyway." On the other hand, how may people want a new Wal-Mart in their own neighborhood? How many people are going to "sign on" to Wal-Mart when it gets personal and up close? http://www.globest.com/news/531_531/baltimore/145364-1.html CROFTON, MD-The Greater Crofton Council has voted against Wal-Mart’s plan to build a 143,000-sf store in the town. The vote came down in a meeting attended by more than 300 area residents. During the meeting, city representatives and residents voiced their concerns about the traffic and crime the project could bring to the Anne Arundel County town, as well as potential damage to the environment. And with 3ABN: How many people are going to do the unpaid volunteer work of going to cable companies and saying, "Please, please put Danny's private corporation on the cable TV system? I really need to help Danny keep his horses fed." Or, "I think Danny needs to a bigger jet this year, I'll add a codicil to my will and make it happen." That could be a horse of a different color. -------------------- life is too short to knit with ugly yarn....
www.knitfloozy.blogspot.com There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness." |
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