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post Jul 21 2007, 07:42 PM
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QUOTE(Daryl Fawcett @ Jul 22 2007, 09:18 AM) *
I was directed to a post I made here by somebody in the SDA section of Christian Forums. It was used to substantiate that I want to see the demise of 3ABN.

Here's the link to the post in this topic:

http://www.blacksda.com/forums/index.php?s...st&p=141393

I told them that I do not want to see the demise of 3ABN. Perhaps the demise of some of its leaders, but not the demise of 3ABN.

I don't believe that is the desire of any of us here.


That is my beleif too Daryl. We only want to see it cleaned up, so it can give God the glory, rather than DS. Some people however, who want to preserve the status quo at any cost, will use any kind of excuse, and twist words to mean what they don't. Can't help it is some people can't see what is as plain as the nose on thier face.

As for 3-phase power. I don't know what the situation is in the USA but in Australia, 3 phase power is availalbe in even many remote areas. Not that it has always been so, but I have lived in quite remote areas of Australia, and 3 phase power was availalbe there. No drama about that. We were questioned why we wanted it, because it is usually used in Industrial areas, but when my husband explained, there was no problem. Can't see why it would be such a 'miracle' if Danny got it on. Just my $0.02 worth!
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post Jul 22 2007, 02:00 AM
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QUOTE(Daryl Fawcett @ Jul 21 2007, 06:18 PM) *
I was directed to a post I made here by somebody in the SDA section of Christian Forums. It was used to substantiate that I want to see the demise of 3ABN.

Here's the link to the post in this topic:

http://www.blacksda.com/forums/index.php?s...st&p=141393

I told them that I do not want to see the demise of 3ABN. Perhaps the demise of some of its leaders, but not the demise of 3ABN.

I don't believe that is the desire of any of us here.


This is a fine example of the Danny Shelton mentality or lack thereof. I am not a professional, and can not diagnose this quandary. I only have opinions, right or wrong. This is a serious identity crisis nono.gif

To Danny, he IS 3ABN! Trying to get rid of him is equal to getting rid of 3ABN, in his thinking that is, IMO. Therefore, if you want him to go away, you must also want 3ABN to go away. His mind can't grasp the truth that he IS NOT 3ABN. doh.gif

Danny does NOT equal 3ABN. 3ABN is a Corporation and not HUMAN in any sense of the word. Danny is said to be human. IMO, I question even that. There is NO HUMAN that can not be replaced. NONE! No one is indispensable. 3ABN can be run by different individuals, other than Danny, and still thrive. In fact, I believe God would send real miracles and many souls would be saved "Thru" Jesus Christ! JMO. GP.gif


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But such a character is not the result of accident; it is not due to special favors or endowments of Providence. A noble character is the result of self-discipline, of the subjection of the lower to the higher nature--the surrender of self for the service of love to God and man. {Ed 57.4}
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post Jul 22 2007, 08:27 AM
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If as Danny himself has often stated God only used him to start 3ABN, that it is God's minisitry and it is through the blessing of God that 3ABN prospered and that it was sustained by miracles from God, the question comes to mind "If 3ABN belongs to God, is Danny being a good steward of that resouce lately?".

What if God asks for it back? What if it is not us asking for Danny to give it up but what if it is unmistakeably God making the claim?

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post Jul 23 2007, 06:14 PM
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QUOTE(inga @ Jul 22 2006, 09:45 PM) *
Yes, YES!! That's something positive we can do to help HopeTV!

I note that a petition to add 3ABN to the Dish Network line-up is online, but I wonder how much good those online petitions do, because the signatures are pretty easy to forge. (Don't ask me how I know. tongue.gif ) It probably can't hurt to mount such a petition, but email and snail mail directly to the Dish Network would be much more effective, I'm sure.

The online petition for 3ABN is here: http://www.petitiononline.com/3abndish/petition.html Someone could draft a HopeTV petition and put it online at the same place. I wouldn't put my own email address in there, because such a site can easily be used to collect addresses for spamming.

Another idea for those not currently customers of the Dish Network would be to inquire whether you would be able to view HopeTV if you subscribed to their service, and give the URL to their web site. If they received a few thousand such inquiries, it will make an impression, I suspect.

Want a huge laugh? rofl1.gif roflmao.gif Go to the petition link and look at the latest signatures.

I wish I had thought of that myself.


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Gems of Wisdom
"Lisa and Ronda are not Danny's biological father." -- wwjd, 2/8/07
"Watchbird, The facts prove the above lie." -- wwjd, 2/13/07
"Another lie that can be proven..." -- Bystander, 3/18/07
"The thing about lies is they can be proven." -- Aletheia, 3/22/07
"I am not here to argue" -- Aletheia, 4/24/07
"She didn't move to 3ABN, she moved to Illinois" -- Aletheia, 4/25/07
"Hope is liberal. 3abn is not." -- steffan, 6/9/07
"Danny Shelton does not decide what goes on the air, period." -- appletree, 8/22/07


http://www.save-3abn.com/
http://www.investigating3abn.info/
http://rescue3abn.blog.com/
http://www.abundantrest.org/?p=74
http://abundantrest.org/2007/02/18/3abn-sa...ons-retirement/
http://anewsabbathschool.blogspot.com/2006...ain-wrecks.html
http://cafesda.blogspot.com/2006/08/atoday...bn-news_21.html
http://www.atoday.com/email/2007/02/12/
http://spectrummagazine.typepad.com/the_sp...eans_and_e.html
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post Jul 23 2007, 06:33 PM
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QUOTE(ex3ABNemployee @ Jul 24 2007, 10:14 AM) *
Want a huge laugh? rofl1.gif roflmao.gif Go to the petition link and look at the latest signatures.

I wish I had thought of that myself.


Oh, all dem norty, norty peoples clap.gif I LOVE it! tongue.gif laugh.gif thumbsup.gif


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post Jul 23 2007, 06:39 PM
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Some where around #730 someone has signed it Danny Shelton and put in a link to BSDA.

I also noticed a past president of ASI has signed it.

Richard


QUOTE(ex3ABNemployee @ Jul 23 2007, 08:14 PM) *
Want a huge laugh? rofl1.gif roflmao.gif Go to the petition link and look at the latest signatures.

I wish I had thought of that myself.

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post Jul 23 2007, 07:05 PM
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QUOTE(Richard Sherwin @ Jul 23 2007, 05:39 PM) *
Some where around #730 someone has signed it Danny Shelton and put in a link to BSDA.

I also noticed a past president of ASI has signed it.

Richard


I'm curious how they can even accept such an "online" petetion..someone could have easily made all the names, states, comments up. ohmy.gif
Any petetions I've signed required my name, address and my actual signature. scratchchin.gif


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post Jul 24 2007, 05:54 AM
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QUOTE(sonshineonme @ Jul 23 2007, 07:05 PM) *
I'm curious how they can even accept such an "online" petetion..someone could have easily made all the names, states, comments up. ohmy.gif
Any petetions I've signed required my name, address and my actual signature. scratchchin.gif


It looks like they DID make up the names....no don't do it was a name after all the shelton names and then later names like AMAZING from the UK.

What does this tell you...........deception again

Let's make that real petition for Hope Channel! Who can do it?
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post Jul 24 2007, 07:59 AM
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QUOTE(runner4him @ Jul 24 2007, 03:54 AM) *
Let's make that real petition for Hope Channel! Who can do it?


Great that you're promoting a start to what Inga wrote one year ago in July 2006
"Someone could draft a HopeTV petition and put it online at the same place. I wouldn't put my own email address in there, because such a site can easily be used to collect addresses for spamming."
She must be darntooting frustrated it took 12 months to get this far blink.gif

Let me share a ditty that fits our situation right here...
(sorry, author and source unknown)

It's about four people

Everybody, Somebody, Anybody and Nobody,

There was an important job to be done and Everybody was asked to do it.

Everybody was sure, Somebody would do it.

Anybody could have done it but in the end, Nobody did it.

Somebody got very angry about that because it was Everybody's job.

Everybody thought Anybody would do it, but Nobody realized that Everybody couldn'd do it.

lt ended up that Everybody blamed Somebody when actually Nobody had asked Anybody at all.





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post Jul 24 2007, 08:06 AM
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About the Petition pro-3ABN at http://www.petitiononline.com/3abndish/petition.html


My favorites for a chuckle :
16. it sucks distroy 3abn and put a nudy chanel in it's place
21. useless blob NSW I have decided to sign all the petitions
52. Danny Shelton ILL.
567. Shelley Quinn Texas
735. Danny Shelton friend Illinois News at http://www.blacksda.com/forums/index.php?showforum=48
734. Danny Shelton friend Illinois News at http://www.blacksda.com/forums/index.php?showforum=48
733. Danny Shelton friend Illinois News at http://www.blacksda.com/forums/index.php?showforum=48
732. Danny Shelton friend Illinois News at http://www.blacksda.com/forums/index.php?showforum=48
1232. Lee Shelton IL Yeah add it pleeze
1231. Dan Lee Shelton IL Yeah add it pleeze
1230. D Lee Shelton IL Yeah add it pleeze
1229. D L Shelton IL Yeah add it pleeze
1228. Danny L Shelton IL Yeah add it pleeze
1227. Dan L Shelton IL Yeah add it pleeze
1226. Danny Shelton IL Yeah add it pleeze
1225. Daniel Shelton IL Yeah add it pleeze
1224. Dan Shelton IL Yeah add it pleeze
1223. No Don't Do it Confusion

Spaming to one’s heart’s delight :
414. Andrew Jones NY Know who is responsible and who your true enemy is. It is all related. Please take the time to read comments on this website http://www.petitiononline.com/cofs1/petition.html We each have a stake in fighting this evil.
421, 490, Know who your enemy is. Know who is responsible for 9/11. Get involved in something worthwhile. Your future and your life depends on it. See petition http://www.petitiononline.com/cofs1/petition.html Unicef recently reported that 50,000 of these Nazi German men are raping young innocent children all over Europe. They are preventing access to this website. Please pass the URL for this petition to others.
627. Norm T See comments at http://www.petitiononline.com/cofs1/petition.html (although, they've infiltrated petition sites); http://scientologywatch.org/postnuke/index...wman/home.html; http://www2.theCIA.net/users/rnewman/scien.../amlawyer-7.92; http://www.drasticmedia.com/Scientology.html; http://whyaretheydead.net/krasel/books/bfm/punch.htm; http://www.xenu.net/archive/media/time910605.html; http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~dst/Library/Shelf/la90/; http://www.lermanet.com/scientologynews/sp...ries-index.htm; See comments at http://www.petitiononline.com/cofs1/petition.html (although, they've infiltrated petition sites); http://scientologywatch.org/postnuke/index...wman/home.html; http://www2.theCIA.net/users/rnewman/scien.../amlawyer-7.92; http://www.drasticmedia.com/Scientology.html; http://whyaretheydead.net/krasel/books/bfm/punch.htm; http://www.xenu.net/archive/media/time910605.html; http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~dst/Library/Shelf/la90/; http://www.lermanet.com/scientologynews/sp...ries-index.htm;

Psychology Book, page 40, on How to Threaten Others :
639. Phil Kleintank Indiana If 3ABN is not continued to be broadcast on your service I will cancel all dish network programing in my house and try to get others to do the same.

Psychology Book, page 50, on How to Guilt-trip Others :
682. Barbara Wooden Tennessee My heart breaks for some elderly friends of mine who have really sacrificed to buy the equipment needed to watch 3ABN. They trusted your company.
This is so sad, especially from a company that advertises it is a Christian network.

Psychology Book, page 60, on How to Be a Tough Guy :
722. Darryl Bishop Texas Put 3abn on Dish.

Psychology Book, page 70, on How to Bargin and Loose :
755. Fred Smithson washington If 3abn is added to your program I will drop my cable and switch to Dish Network.

Psychology Book, page 80, on How to Be a False Prophet :
865. Eugene Lambert California Dish viewer count will certainly be increased

Well, speak about getting raised eyebrows over bulging eyeballs!
Somebody please send these folks a years free subscription to BSDA for educational 3ABN purposes…..

339. Carol Settles Ohio My parentslives in Benton and friends of Danny Shelton. He is a wonderful Christian leader.
334. Juanita M. Quaile NY I pray for this messge to continue on through out world. God knows that Danny and Linda Shelton are letting God work through them for this to happen. God Bless them both.
367. Eric Huffman Virginia Please add 3ABN so I can recommend Dish Network to everyone I know!
357. Deloris Hackley Nebraska This would be a blessing to everyone, and help to fulfil prophecy.

Remember Ed White our Forum member here and there and everywhere? Wasn’t he anti-3ABN?
Well, here’s apparently another Ed White who is pro-3ABN. Ironic or just plain funny?

353. Edward W. White NE


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What is good for the goose is good for the gander... how many good BSDA posters out there who are itching to show off their expertise in witticism? Good place to have lots of fun. Hee hee hee...

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If they're not killed through abortion, he wants them neglected or abused physically, emotionally, sexually...One way or another, the legions of hell want to destroy children because children become the future adults and leaders. If they (legions) can warp or wound a child, he or she becomes a warped or wounded adult who passes on this affliction to the next generation". -Terry Randall in TIME Magazine, October 21, 1991
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I guess not all of the names in that list can be made up, seeing as I recognized about 3% of the names as being people whom I know personally. Some of them surprised me.

Blessings,

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Couldn't someone sign it and put your name on it, Greenie? Or Jan Paulson's ? Or anybody's? How do you know that just because you recognize a name, the person who put the name there wasn't someone else?
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QUOTE(lurker @ Jul 25 2007, 08:23 AM) *
Couldn't someone sign it and put your name on it, Greenie? Or Jan Paulson's ? Or anybody's? How do you know that just because you recognize a name, the person who put the name there wasn't someone else?

Perhaps they could, but, for example, some of those friends had members of their family with different surnames sign up on the list as well, and their names did not all come on the same page. It seems to match the pattern of someone who has found the list and has emailed to others to get them to sign it too--and of course there is a lag, then, between those signings. Additionally, there were friends and classmates of mine from all across the country, in multiple states, and I would find that more than coincidental for each of them to be on the list together, when I can personally vouch for most of them not knowing each other, and likely not part of any group or association together.

Now...the diabolical thought would be...hmmmm.....if 3ABN just went through its contact list and....perish the thought! Do you suppose the list tracks the originating IP address of each signer? smile.gif (Be sure your sins will find you out!) And IF 3ABN were asking all of its followers to sign the petition, where are the names of Finley, Batchelor, Cox, Phipps, Carter, Albrecht, ....or for that matter, Melody, Brandy, Teresa, Brenda, and a host of others? There are countless names which are ostensibly missing.


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