Pray For Danny Options

[wwjd]

It is hard for me to imagine that we are now being graded on our prayers! How unchristian is that!

No grade, just a suggestion. Honestly hoty you should not be one to criticize. In my opinion and lots of others, you are a traitor to 3abn and all the people that work there that think you are their friend. If you had concerns you should have went to those in charge and voiced them instead of going behind everyone's back to do your part in tearing down the ministry. Many wonder who you are. I say just look for the most cowardly person that you can find and you have found hoty.

[Johann]

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You go to the home your spouse bought and are told by the seller that your spouse came and picked it out with his/her "friend". But you won't stop trying to reconcile because you love them. So after knowing even you what you know, you do some remodeling, using your own money on your spouse's residence. What if you went in to get a drink and your spouse ask you to step out because he/she was on the phone with their "friend".
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I could paint many additions to this scenerio but I will leave it at this: After your heart is broken, your self respect is crushed and you know you have done all that you can, then the next thing you know, rumors are flying all over that you threw your spouse out, you took their job, treated them like dirt and your spouse was innocent as a lamb. Not only that but you find they are the source of the rumors that get bigger and better everyday and they are doing everything in their power to paint you as the terrible person and they are the victim. Moral of the story. If you did say anything publicly, it was in self defense because of the lies that you had been accused of after you had done everything you knew to do. So, if you did start trying to counteract the falsehpical foods being told, it might not be the best idea, but then again, you are only human aren't you?

You sure are painting to your deceptive scenario and twists like Danny has used a thousand times to convince people that he has a patent on truth, regardless of what others have seen or experienced.ou

So who was with Linda when she picked out her mobile home in Carbondale? It was not Dr. Arild Abrahamsen, because we were both then in Norway. Did she have another helper?

After Danny Shelton had chased us away from Camp Meeting at Thompsonville, Dr. Abrahamsen and I travelled from our hotel in Marion to Carbindale to take a look at the house. Irmgard, my wife, wanted to get a report of the home her friend, Linda, would be moving into when she got chased away from Danny Shelton's house. Linda was not with us then. By twisting the chronology of events, just like Dr. Walt Thompson has done through the whole event, you try to convincou your supporters you are telling the truth. Now the time of recogning has arrived!

And those phone calls? Yes, he grabbed the phone from Linda when Irmgard or I called, and he sounded as if he never figured out what was up or down. So now you give those calls an extra twist to get people to fall for your deception!!!

What you write here about Danny's love for Linda may be from what he then told others, but not what he was telling Linda or me at that time about his love? Why did he keep it so hidden then?

Is it any wonder that Danny's former good friend, Mark Finlay, is now telling people in different places that he is convinced Linda is innocent of Danny's accusations?

[daylily]

I appreciate all the positive feedback. When I heard Pastor Kelly's sermon yesterday, I felt such a burden to pray for Danny that I couldn't ignore it. My family prayed for him immediately and I thought if I requested prayer here, more would join and I'm glad they did and I trust will continue.

I have immense respect for Pastor Kelly. He was so good to my daughter when she was at Oakwood. That was a powerful sermon that we can all take to heart.

[Grace]

I appreciate all the positive feedback. When I heard Pastor Kelly's sermon yesterday, I felt such a burden to pray for Danny that I couldn't ignore it. My family prayed for him immediately and I thought if I requested prayer here, more would join and I'm glad they did and I trust will continue.

I have immense respect for Pastor Kelly. He was so good to my daughter when she was at Oakwood. That was a powerful sermon that we can all take to heart.

Good idea to pray for Danny together. I've been praying for him, Linda and all the people at 3ABN, as I'm sure many people here have done. There's a special blessing, though, in God's children getting together to pray in accord and the Lord wants those prayers. So let's pray!

Thanks for your post, Johann. It's so refreshing to hear truth in that kind and humble but straight way you express yourself. It blesses me. God bless you!

[ex3ABNemployee]

No grade, just a suggestion. Honestly hoty you should not be one to criticize. In my opinion and lots of others, you are a traitor to 3abn and all the people that work there that think you are their friend. If you had concerns you should have went to those in charge and voiced them instead of going behind everyone's back to do your part in tearing down the ministry. Many wonder who you are. I say just look for the most cowardly person that you can find and you have found hoty.

In my opinion, YOU are a coward. You come in here repeatedly and make accusations against people from the safety of your screen name. Don't ask HOTY to identify himself if you're not willing to do the same.

Voice his concerns to those in charge? Now that's rich. He would be fired on the spot and he knows it. Differences of opinion are not welcome at 3ABN. See this link:

http://www.save3abn.com/danny-shelton-ethi...-duane-clem.htm

Keep up the good work, HOTY. It's getting to them, now. The name calling has started.

[Richard Sherwin]

While I can certainly understand why HOTY and others do not reveal who they are I cannot for the the life of me understand why the defenders of Danny don't say who they are. It just seems like they would have so much more credibility. JMO of course. (And no I'm not phishing for names, just wondering out loud)

Richard

In my opinion, YOU are a coward. You come in here repeatedly and make accusations against people from the safety of your screen name. Don't ask HOTY to identify himself if you're not willing to do the same.

Voice his concerns to those in charge? Now that's rich. He would be fired on the spot and he knows it. Differences of opinion are not welcome at 3ABN. See this link:

http://www.save3abn.com/danny-shelton-ethi...-duane-clem.htm

Keep up the good work, HOTY. It's getting to them, now. The name calling has started.

[Grace]

While I can certainly understand why HOTY and others do not reveal who they are I cannot for the the life of me understand why the defenders of Danny don't say who they are. It just seems like they would have so much more credibility. JMO of course. (And no I'm not phishing for names, just wondering out loud)

Richard

Interesting! I was wondering the same!

[erik]

Interesting! I was wondering the same!

Grace,


The number one reason is legal liability so of what they have said is very slanderous so if they stay behind the curtain of us not knowing for sure you they are then it limits the ability of others to go after them.

I will say that a higher percentage of reform 3abn posters are willing to put there real name to their posts then the leave 3abn alone crowd.


Erik

[husbandoftheyear]

No grade, just a suggestion. Honestly hoty you should not be one to criticize. In my opinion and lots of others, you are a traitor to 3abn and all the people that work there that think you are their friend. If you had concerns you should have went to those in charge and voiced them instead of going behind everyone's back to do your part in tearing down the ministry. Many wonder who you are. I say just look for the most cowardly person that you can find and you have found hoty.

Like I said once before, today's traitors are tomorrows loyalists.

It's all a matter of timing, after all.

[Guest_glenetta_*]

Like I said once before, today's traitors are tomorrows loyalists.

It's all a matter of timing, after all.

QUOTE(wwjd @ Feb 11 2007, 04:34 AM)

No grade, just a suggestion. Honestly hoty you should not be one to criticize. In my opinion and lots of others, you are a traitor to 3abn and all the people that work there that think you are their friend. If you had concerns you should have went to those in charge and voiced them instead of going behind everyone's back to do your part in tearing down the ministry.


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[Guest_glenetta_*]

It is hard for me to imagine that we are now being graded on our prayers! How unchristian is that!

HOTY instead of being quick and feeling graded could you possible put yourself in the shoes of this man.

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[Ralph]

QUOTE(wwjd @ Feb 11 2007, 04:34 AM)

Glenetta, why are you bringing ******* name up here? The discussion was not about him. You must be desperate.

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[PaperTigers]

Glenetta, why are you bringing ******* name up here? The discussion was not about him. You must be desperate.

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[PeacefulBe]

I see your requests for prayers and that is wonderful because we all need them. But you are all praying for Danny to repent..yet look at the scripture you quoted. The key word is SEE. That is the problem here. You all didn't SEE what went on behind closed doors of the marriage. You did not SEE any of the allegations made here towards Danny & 3abn. YOu have all made up your minds based on what? I would humbly suggest that the prayer that should be prayed, is Lord, help me to know what is truth. If I have been wrong about the people I have accused, convict my heart. Help me not to judge the things I have not seen nor the things that I have not heard for myself.

It is true, I didn't SEE anything behind closed doors in the marriage. I did see lots of Danny's claims about it on 3abn. I have read observations by first hand witnesses here.

I have seen the testimonies of the alleged victims of pastoral sexual abuse/molestation and the letters from Mike Riva sent to Roger Clem and the Church of God to try to shut them up. There is pretty clear evidence, IMO, that Danny has "sinned" in this regard and I will maintain that it is my right to pray for him as outlined in 1John 5:16.

[Guest_glenetta_*]

In my opinion, YOU are a coward. You come in here repeatedly and make accusations against people from the safety of your screen name. Don't ask HOTY to identify himself if you're not willing to do the same.

Voice his concerns to those in charge? Now that's rich. He would be fired on the spot and he knows it. Differences of opinion are not welcome at 3ABN. See this link:

http://www.save3abn.com/danny-shelton-ethi...-duane-clem.htm

Keep up the good work, HOTY. It's getting to them, now. The name calling has started.

ex3ABNemployee, What name calling?

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This post has been edited by Clay: Feb 11 2007, 01:59 PM