 Doublespeak.... Your word is your bond...., interesting contradictions..... |
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 Feb 20 2007, 05:26 PM
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 Heiress Josey  Group: Charter Member Posts: 9,020 Joined: 20-July 03 From: DC Metro Member No.: 6 Gender: m  |
QUOTE(seraph|m @ Feb 8 2007, 06:41 PM) [snapback]176562[/snapback] Bystander, I have a number of questions for you in relation to your "critique". It is my hope to address them with an unedited version, of said critique, to work with.  BRB... First, Bystander, I thank you for sharing, your version, a fair and impartial view of truth to BlackSDA. We at BSDA, and all those who have and will come to view our humble internet home, will forever be grateful for ALL that you have shared. We will ever be reminded that, in doing so you have in fact, and in spite of yourself, revealed truth. With that said let us begin here: QUOTE(Bystander @ Jan 7 2007, 03:47 PM) [snapback]168151[/snapback] I am a new addition to this forum. Not because I want to be but because I cannot keep silent. Someone told me about this websight but I couldn't comprehend it so checked it out myself. …"the 3ABN saga!!! I cannot begin to explain my shock and shame as I began to read what has been written here. The accusations, arguments, name calling and gossip has made me ashamed to be a Seventh Day Adventist. That a supposedly christian web site would host this garbage, and some of these people's comments is without excuse. this "forum" goes against any and all biblical principles and moral ethics. I have read of an "investigation" of 3ABN and it's people by someone named Pickle and Gailon. They have shown private emails, made info from private calls public, have insisted on answers from the president of the network, Danny Shelton, and have made statements that they would like to clear 3ABN if only they could get straight and clear answers. Well, I have some questions of my own. Who are Pickle and Gailon? QUOTE(wwjd @ Jan 12 2007, 12:24 AM) [snapback]169214[/snapback] I’m not a SDA but years ago I had a friend who was, and left the church basically because of the judgmental attitude that she felt prevailed there. I learned of 3ABN a long time ago, began watching some of the programming,……. as I said, I’m not a SDA but as a born again Christian, I could never do what many have done to this family, even if everything that has been said were true I’ve appreciated all of you who have taken a stand against the devil’s trash written on this web-site, among the most recent being that written by the person called “Bystander”. Thank God for people like that who aren’t afraid to speak truth in defense of wrong doing. Please click on the following words, noted below, which will be beneficial in our "speak truth in the defense of wrong doing" education process. And, as we seek to find the "biblical principles and moral ethics" which our dear brothers have been drawn to share with us on BSDA. let us be mindful of what Jesus would do. ACCOUNTABILITY? Please search for "accountability" WWJD Study? Search for the words "study and appreciated" in the thread... ACOUNTABILITY? part deux Search for "accountability" TRANSPARENT? Search for "transparent" "HONEST" mistake? Search for "mistake" INTEGRITY? Search for "integrity" Now others will have some questions of their own, based on the above and a number of other posts. Would anyone like to share what they believe we have learned from Bystander and wwjd who have presented themselves as sincere and upstanding paragons of truth? This post has been edited by seraph|m: Feb 21 2007, 08:36 AM -------------------- WELCOME to BlackSDA from seraph|m, a BSDA Charter member.
Please Join us in The Married Forum and/or Sabbath School Lesson Study forums. Then, come join us here, Live Chat Lesson Study ,for our Friday night study @ 8pm CST/9pm EST. The lesson can be found at Sabbath School Network (SSNET) Motto- "Weapons of Mass Distraction, Have No Place Here. " "Qui tacet consentire videtur," Are not official staff mottos and are not endorsed by BSDA Management. |
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Feb 21 2007, 09:49 AM
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interesting.... unpack that for us please.....
-------------------- "you are as sick as your secrets...." -quote from Celebrity Rehab-
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Feb 21 2007, 10:11 AM
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Heiress Josey Group: Charter Member Posts: 9,020 Joined: 20-July 03 From: DC Metro Member No.: 6 Gender: m |
QUOTE(Clay @ Feb 21 2007, 10:49 AM) [snapback]179761[/snapback] interesting.... unpack that for us please..... Bystander and wwjd both join BlackSDA on the 7th of Jan. and the 12th of Jan., respectively. Obviously, based on those dates and their original statements they wish us to believe that they are two separate outraged and upstanding Christian men, who have been told about this terrible web site. Accountability: QUOTE(wwjd @ Jan 26 2007, 01:39 PM) [snapback]172885[/snapback] Yohann, You Are Wrong, Very Wrong... it would be best for you to drop that accusation. Consider your accountability to God and man. My question is why did you both attempt to give the impression that you did not know each other? What purpose would be served in such deception? Seeing that you are wrong, very wrong, can we expect you to drop your accusations against others on BSDA and consider your accountability to God and man? This post has been edited by seraph|m: Feb 21 2007, 10:17 AM -------------------- WELCOME to BlackSDA from seraph|m, a BSDA Charter member.
Please Join us in The Married Forum and/or Sabbath School Lesson Study forums. Then, come join us here, Live Chat Lesson Study ,for our Friday night study @ 8pm CST/9pm EST. The lesson can be found at Sabbath School Network (SSNET) Motto- "Weapons of Mass Distraction, Have No Place Here. " "Qui tacet consentire videtur," Are not official staff mottos and are not endorsed by BSDA Management. |
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Feb 21 2007, 10:39 AM
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Heiress Josey Group: Charter Member Posts: 9,020 Joined: 20-July 03 From: DC Metro Member No.: 6 Gender: m |
QUOTE(wwjd @ Jan 12 2007, 12:24 AM) [snapback]169214[/snapback] ... Then I was shown this web site and was told it represents the SDA church. If it does, I am deeply grieved... I’ve prayed...and have asked God if there was anything He would have me to do—this is the answer He gave me through the night season. WWJD? What would Jesus do?...But in studying the Scriptures, I’ve found that it’s Satan’s business to put fear in God’s people to keep them from doing all that God would require of them. Please explain the above statements? wwjd, are saying that after being so grieved at what you saw here that you prayed and you were given instruction "through the night season" and "by studying the scriptures" that the answer you received from (God), the "He" you mentioned above, was to come to BSDA lying? Are you telling us that you expect the members of BSDA to believe this is what Jesus would do? This post has been edited by seraph|m: Feb 21 2007, 10:40 AM -------------------- WELCOME to BlackSDA from seraph|m, a BSDA Charter member.
Please Join us in The Married Forum and/or Sabbath School Lesson Study forums. Then, come join us here, Live Chat Lesson Study ,for our Friday night study @ 8pm CST/9pm EST. The lesson can be found at Sabbath School Network (SSNET) Motto- "Weapons of Mass Distraction, Have No Place Here. " "Qui tacet consentire videtur," Are not official staff mottos and are not endorsed by BSDA Management. |
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Feb 21 2007, 11:12 AM
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5,000 + posts Group: Administrator Posts: 19,829 Joined: 20-July 03 From: Alabama Member No.: 4 Gender: m |
Is it possible for someone who engages in doublespeak to realize that they are engaging in doublespeak?
-------------------- "you are as sick as your secrets...." -quote from Celebrity Rehab-
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Feb 21 2007, 05:05 PM
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Heiress Josey Group: Charter Member Posts: 9,020 Joined: 20-July 03 From: DC Metro Member No.: 6 Gender: m |
QUOTE(Clay @ Feb 21 2007, 12:12 PM) [snapback]179782[/snapback] Is it possible for someone who engages in doublespeak to realize that they are engaging in doublespeak? Well, scriputure does say that a doubleminded man is unstable in all his ways... sad but true -------------------- WELCOME to BlackSDA from seraph|m, a BSDA Charter member.
Please Join us in The Married Forum and/or Sabbath School Lesson Study forums. Then, come join us here, Live Chat Lesson Study ,for our Friday night study @ 8pm CST/9pm EST. The lesson can be found at Sabbath School Network (SSNET) Motto- "Weapons of Mass Distraction, Have No Place Here. " "Qui tacet consentire videtur," Are not official staff mottos and are not endorsed by BSDA Management. |
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Feb 21 2007, 07:29 PM
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 Changed mind about posting. This post has been edited by Rosyroi: Feb 21 2007, 07:47 PM -------------------- "Joy, Love, Peace, Long Suffering, Gentleness, Goodness, Faith, Meekness, and Self Control are what being full of the Holy Spirit is all about." Galations 5. "Don't waste your time waiting and longing for large opportunities which may never come, but faitfully handle the little things that are always claiming your attention..." F.B. Meyers "Truth welcomes examination and doesn't need to defend itself, while deception hides in darkness and blames everyone else." Aunt B. 2007 "For GOD so LOVED you and me..." John 3:16 "I believe that there is a devil, and here's Satan's agenda. First, he doesn't want anyone having kids. Secondly, if they do conceive, he wants them killed. If they're not killed through abortion, he wants them neglected or abused physically, emotionally, sexually...One way or another, the legions of hell want to destroy children because children become the future adults and leaders. If they (legions) can warp or wound a child, he or she becomes a warped or wounded adult who passes on this affliction to the next generation". -Terry Randall in TIME Magazine, October 21, 1991 |
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Feb 21 2007, 09:38 PM
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 PrincessDrRe Group: Financial Donor Posts: 9,011 Joined: 8-November 04 Member No.: 712 Gender: f |
Ah hah!
This will take more "careful" perusal... 
-------------------- *"Some folks use their ignorance like a umbrella. It covers everything, they perodically take it out from time to time, but it never is too far away from them."*
PrincessDrRe; March, 2007 ~"Blood = Meat, Face = Meat, Internal "Organs" = Meat - you can try to make it cuter; but it's still meat...."~ PrincessDrRe; September, 2007 *(NOTE: Any advice given by Re' Silvey, MSW is not to be taken as medical/mental health advice. Although trained to be a counselor, currently employed as a therapist, and currently pursuing her PhD in Counseling Psychology (ABD/I) - she is not your assigned therapist. Please consult a mental health professional of your choice for a face-to-face consultation.)* |
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Feb 21 2007, 09:49 PM
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PrincessDrRe Group: Financial Donor Posts: 9,011 Joined: 8-November 04 Member No.: 712 Gender: f |
After going through all posts - I see just how "double-speak" is working w/ WWJD and Bystander....
I've learned a lot right there. A whole lot.... 
-------------------- *"Some folks use their ignorance like a umbrella. It covers everything, they perodically take it out from time to time, but it never is too far away from them."*
PrincessDrRe; March, 2007 ~"Blood = Meat, Face = Meat, Internal "Organs" = Meat - you can try to make it cuter; but it's still meat...."~ PrincessDrRe; September, 2007 *(NOTE: Any advice given by Re' Silvey, MSW is not to be taken as medical/mental health advice. Although trained to be a counselor, currently employed as a therapist, and currently pursuing her PhD in Counseling Psychology (ABD/I) - she is not your assigned therapist. Please consult a mental health professional of your choice for a face-to-face consultation.)* |
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Feb 21 2007, 10:29 PM
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Heiress Josey Group: Charter Member Posts: 9,020 Joined: 20-July 03 From: DC Metro Member No.: 6 Gender: m |
QUOTE(Rosyroi @ Feb 21 2007, 08:29 PM) [snapback]179885[/snapback] Changed mind about posting.Please share what the Holy Spirit has led you to understand in this matter... Everyone is welcome to share their thoughts on the matter
-------------------- WELCOME to BlackSDA from seraph|m, a BSDA Charter member.
Please Join us in The Married Forum and/or Sabbath School Lesson Study forums. Then, come join us here, Live Chat Lesson Study ,for our Friday night study @ 8pm CST/9pm EST. The lesson can be found at Sabbath School Network (SSNET) Motto- "Weapons of Mass Distraction, Have No Place Here. " "Qui tacet consentire videtur," Are not official staff mottos and are not endorsed by BSDA Management. |
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Feb 22 2007, 01:51 AM
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Danny, with friends like Cindy, wwjd and Bystander, (the apologists) who needs enemies? Of course if you are one of them then you are your own worse enemy.
But by all means carry on, the fire needs more fuel... Richard |
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Feb 22 2007, 12:46 PM
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Heiress Josey Group: Charter Member Posts: 9,020 Joined: 20-July 03 From: DC Metro Member No.: 6 Gender: m |
QUOTE(wwjd @ Feb 6 2007, 12:02 AM) [snapback]175715[/snapback] ... Calvin knows we use the same computer. When I made the first post, I did not realize that Bystander had not logged out. Didn't realize it until I submitted the post and saw that it said "Bystander". Truthfully I didn't even know how to go about changing an already submitted post to my ID, so I figured the easiest and quickest way would to be just change the wording... This from a brother who originally claimed he didn't even "know" Bystander... QUOTE(wwjd @ Jan 12 2007, 12:24 AM) [snapback]169214[/snapback] I’ve appreciated all of you who have taken a stand against the devil’s trash written on this web-site, among the most recent being that written by the person called “Bystander”. Thank God for people like that who aren’t afraid to speak truth in defense of wrong doing. HONESTY, or a reflection of a the "true spirit" within? Lurkers you decide... This post has been edited by seraph|m: Feb 22 2007, 12:56 PM -------------------- WELCOME to BlackSDA from seraph|m, a BSDA Charter member.
Please Join us in The Married Forum and/or Sabbath School Lesson Study forums. Then, come join us here, Live Chat Lesson Study ,for our Friday night study @ 8pm CST/9pm EST. The lesson can be found at Sabbath School Network (SSNET) Motto- "Weapons of Mass Distraction, Have No Place Here. " "Qui tacet consentire videtur," Are not official staff mottos and are not endorsed by BSDA Management. |
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Feb 22 2007, 01:03 PM
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5,000 + posts Group: Administrator Posts: 19,829 Joined: 20-July 03 From: Alabama Member No.: 4 Gender: m |
keep sharing those examples Sera.... they are quite telling.... it shows that the dannyscribes came to BSDA in the same spirit as Danny himself.... he came in tellling lies, they have come in telling lies.....
-------------------- "you are as sick as your secrets...." -quote from Celebrity Rehab-
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Feb 22 2007, 08:47 PM
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Heiress Josey Group: Charter Member Posts: 9,020 Joined: 20-July 03 From: DC Metro Member No.: 6 Gender: m |
QUOTE(Clay @ Feb 22 2007, 02:03 PM) [snapback]180037[/snapback] keep sharing those examples Sera.... they are quite telling.... it shows that the dannyscribes came to BSDA in the same spirit as Danny himself.... he came in tellling lies, they have come in telling lies..... We can only hope that those who are genuinely seeking the truth, behind the issues presented here and on Save3ABN, will take note of the clear doubleminded behavior of the dannyscribes. -------------------- WELCOME to BlackSDA from seraph|m, a BSDA Charter member.
Please Join us in The Married Forum and/or Sabbath School Lesson Study forums. Then, come join us here, Live Chat Lesson Study ,for our Friday night study @ 8pm CST/9pm EST. The lesson can be found at Sabbath School Network (SSNET) Motto- "Weapons of Mass Distraction, Have No Place Here. " "Qui tacet consentire videtur," Are not official staff mottos and are not endorsed by BSDA Management. |
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Feb 22 2007, 09:26 PM
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PrincessDrRe Group: Financial Donor Posts: 9,011 Joined: 8-November 04 Member No.: 712 Gender: f |
OOooo.....
It's interesting how much you can see when you open your eyes...
-------------------- *"Some folks use their ignorance like a umbrella. It covers everything, they perodically take it out from time to time, but it never is too far away from them."*
PrincessDrRe; March, 2007 ~"Blood = Meat, Face = Meat, Internal "Organs" = Meat - you can try to make it cuter; but it's still meat...."~ PrincessDrRe; September, 2007 *(NOTE: Any advice given by Re' Silvey, MSW is not to be taken as medical/mental health advice. Although trained to be a counselor, currently employed as a therapist, and currently pursuing her PhD in Counseling Psychology (ABD/I) - she is not your assigned therapist. Please consult a mental health professional of your choice for a face-to-face consultation.)* |
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