The Latest On 3abn, a letter explaining some things.... Options

[Clay]

I CANNOT vouch for the letter other than it was posted on another forum (you all have the address cause I posted it...), and I wanted to share it here..... eyeopening......


posted July 29, 2004 09:33 Message What happened at 3ABN?

THE STORY OF LINDA SHELTON


By Johann Thorvaldsson


Former 3ABN liaison for Europe It is a fact that Linda Shelton has been
fired - and Danny Shelton has told his version of events to the World
audience. He warned us not to listen to rumors, so what are the facts of
this heart-breaking experience? Unfortunately Linda Shelton has been
judged and dismissed from the establishment she loved and helped build
up - on the basis of rumors. Facts that have been twisted, embroidered
and presented as real. This is quite a complicated matter. A few weeks
ago I was in Southern Illinois, wanting to attend the camp meeting at
3ABN, together with a Norwegian medical doctor - the one Linda has been
accused of committing spiritual adultery with. We went there in an
attempt to clear up misunderstandings, all caused because my wife and I
introduced this doctor to Danny and Linda Shelton. This doctor is also
the head elder of the most flourishing conservative SDA church in Norway
- and has for several years been a financial supporter of 3ABN. Some of
the problems were caused because the 3ABN archives had misspelled the
name of this supporter, so Danny was convinced he was an impostor. Later
Danny has named him a devil, a demon, or evil spirit, or bad counselor -
like he did during the transmission to the whole world on Thursday
evening at Camp Meeting. Also during that meeting we were requested to
leave the premises of 3ABN, and if we ever showed up again at the
meetings the police would be requested to remove us as trespassing
private property - and this at meetings where all are invited.

What is our crime? While my wife, Irmgard, and I were staying at 3ABN in
December 2003, this doctor came to visit us, both to check Irmgard's
illness and to see the studios of the ministry he was supporting and was
a great fan of. Linda came to see us, and later she brought her son
along, who had problems with drugs and related things. Nathan had been
reluctant to see any other doctor, but a lasting friendship between the
doctor and this young man was kindled. Many of his patients are young
athletes, so he is used todealing with young people. The doctor invited
Nathan to come and stay in Norway and receive treatments at his clinic
for a month. Nathan brought his girlfriend along, and later Linda and
Brenda Walsh spent 3 days there to check on things - and I had a visit
with them too while they were there. At that time Nathan had merely been
there for 10 days, and I did not recognize him when I saw him. He was a
completely transformed person.

So after Linda returned to the States she'd call to find out how it was
going with her son. Danny told me himself that he considered that if a
married woman talks for more than 10 or 12 minutes with another man on
the
phone she'd be committing spiritual adultery - so these phone calls
first branded Linda as an adulteress. And from there the ball has kept
rolling with more and more accusations. Mark Finlay was willing to
assist in coming to an understanding, but his offer was unacceptable to
the 3ABN lawyer. Both the lawyer and the pastor
urged me to stay out of this case and not support Linda. They claimed
I'd soon be left out in the cold with no friends at all if I'd continue
supporting Linda in her plight.

Can you imagine our Lord Jesus Christ telling me not to come to the aid
of this frail woman because I'd be left out in the cold without friends?
I have never heard such a statement before coming from people who are
supposed to be the spiritual leaders of this great ministry. Is it any
wonder that the support of 3ABN is dwindling?

With such men at the helm who make it their business and main concern to
condemn Linda, is it any wonder that Linda seeks the support of her
close friends - and also calls the doctor who was so kind to her son?
Of course it might have avoided some misunderstandings and confusions if
that doctor had been a woman. But what does the Apostle tell us? "There
is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is
neither male
nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus." Those two people have
been branded before the whole world as adulterers, and you name it. I
never dreamt such atrocities could take place at my favorite ministry,
3ABN

Now the woes of Linda Shelton are not hers alone any more. I was fired
too, because I supported Linda. Officially it was because I refused to
obey orders from my superiors at 3ABN. But I am fortunate that I get my
sustentation from the church where I started my ministry more than 50
years ago. Even though I love the ministry of 3ABN, I serve the God of
heaven and the God of Truth. Derrell Mundall, the father of Danny
Shelton's grandchildren, who has served 3ABN faithfully for many years,
has also been fired. What is his crime? He
was too close and he knows the truth, and shared his knowledge with
others. He supports Linda. He had no other employment when he was
dismissed from 3ABN, so pray that he may soon find another fruitful
ministry where he can use his talents. He chose truth instead of a
steady employment, as so many other believers have done in the past.
Before Derrell was fired he was told that he must remember it was Danny
who received the vision from God to build this TV station. Therefore, he
was told, he must regard the words of Danny Shelton as being the words
of God. Long before Linda's dismissal, Dr. Kay Kuzma was assigned to
help Linda
manage after being fired. She was also supposed to interview staff
members to find a good reason to fire her, so one wonders what really is
behind this upheaval?

Danny mentioned a number of counselors who had helped the board come to
the conclusion that she should be dismissed. You can ask Linda, but I
don't think she ever talked to most of those counselors. In fact even
before her dismissal she felt treated like a criminal when she
approached the premises of 3ABN and was not permitted to enter without
close supervision. The present general staff at 3ABN is probably not
permitted to ask Linda any question. If anyone wants a contact to keep
up their close friendship with Linda they have to write their note on a
postcard, submit it to the leaders who will forward it to Linda. Such
are the present premises of this woman
whose ministry has meant so much to thousands of viewers, and who will
not see her any more on the screen - as long as the present leadership
has it their way.

Pray for 3ABN. Pray for justice. Pray for justice also for Linda.
Miracles still take place.
Christian regards

[dmizzle06]

Hmmm....

[Clay]

I think it's deep myself..... I suspect there will be more....

[Clay]

Here is what someone wrote after they read the letter.....

"So sad! So very, very sad! Satan is indeed very busy and every day we are feeling the effect of his lashes as he works so wickedly. Let us keep covered under the blood!

Thank you Cyberman for that information. It shows much light on many things! Now I better understand why Danny Shelton said on the opening night of Camp Meeting on the 27th May " They are here but she is not here" when I viewed 3ABN after a very rough day, only to bounce on the woes of 3ABN themselves.

Lord have mercy on us! "

[princessdi]

WOW!!!!!! This is a mess!!!!

[princessdi]

Here is what someone wrote after they read the letter.....

"So sad! So very, very sad! Satan is indeed very busy and every day we are feeling the effect of his lashes as he works so wickedly. Let us keep covered under the blood!

Thank you Cyberman for that information. It shows much light on many things! Now I better understand why Danny Shelton said on the opening night of Camp Meeting on the 27th May " They are here but she is not here" when I viewed 3ABN after a very rough day, only to bounce on the woes of 3ABN themselves.

Lord have mercy on us! "

So what was that mess he posted here about us being a tabloid whatever? I said before and I say it again. 3ABN and Danny Shelton's actions casued this mess. I really believe he posted that mess to us because he thought we didn't know any better.

Danny since you lurk, I am asking what do you have to say for yourself?

[zaklynn]

WOW!!!!!! This is a mess!!!!

That's exactly what I was just thinking. The situation seems so out of control.

[pmorris68]

WOW!!! Is all I got to say. I imagine this will NOT be the last of this story. But there are 3 sides to every story HIS, HERS and the TRUTH!!

[tarduke]

I must admit I have a prurient curiosity to know the juicy tidbits, brought on by the many oblique remarks and zig zag refrences by Danny, John Lomacang and others on 3ABN. But I know dragging the details of a private agonising experience for two and more) of God's children profits no one. There is a public side to this--accountability in ministry-- that needs airing, but the details and allegations of personal sin are not our business and should be left alone.

However I wonder what is meant by "spiritual adultery" in the above letter?
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On closer reading of this letter I conclude that it is mean-spirited and not done from Christian motives. One statement in there is just too outrageous to have any basis for truth. The writer says that Danny told his son in law that Danny's words must be considered as God's word because Danny had the founding vision for the ministry.

I just cannot believe Danny or anyone would say such a thing. That and the general tone of the letter lowers brother J in my estimation.

[Guest_statrei_*]

It is not that far-fetched for one who believes he received a revelation from God to build a ministry to also believe that God gives the guidance necessary to maintain selfsame ministry. If God gives the guidance then human rendering of that guidance will naturally be considered to be the voice of God. It is essentially the same reasoning on which our church insists that the General Conference in session is the voice of God. Toronto put the lie to that when the institution of marriage was almost destroyed when we adopted a resolution allowing divorce from "an unbelieving spouse" but the belief remains all the same.

[Clay]

I do not or cannot ascertain the motives of the person who may have authored the letter, but let me say that very few people I know can sit quietly while their names are being besmirched... If he is being linked unfairly, and Mr. Shelton is using 3ABN and other places he is able to speak as the medium to spread his version of the truth, what can the others who are involved do? Who hears their side or does it matter?

[princessdi]

I must admit I have a prurient curiosity to know the juicy tidbits, brought on by the many oblique remarks and zig zag refrences by Danny, John Lomacang and others on 3ABN. But I know dragging the details of a private agonising experience for two and more) of God's children profits no one. There is a public side to this--accountability in ministry-- that needs airing, but the details and allegations of personal sin are not our business and should be left alone.

However I wonder what is meant by "spiritual adultery" in the above letter?
---

On closer reading of this letter I conclude that it is mean-spirited and not done from Christian motives. One statement in there is just too outrageous to have any basis for truth. The writer says that Danny told his son in law that Danny's words must be considered as God's word because Danny had the founding vision for the ministry.

I just cannot believe Danny or anyone would say such a thing. That and the general tone of the letter lowers brother J in my estimation.

Tarduke, If you go back and read the posts on this subject, you may get a fuller understanding as to why this man is so irritated.

[Clay]

Tarduke,
Go and read what Mr. Shelton wrote to this group.... and most of the comments here were neutral and nonjudgemental.....

[tarduke]

Tarduke, If you go back and read the posts on this subject, you may get a fuller understanding as to why this man is so irritated.

Yes in his letter he does not claim that Danny is besmirching his name. he addresses intra-3abn management issues that we have no way of judging one way or another.

In the supposed Danny letter to this forum, nowhere does the author mention Brother J.

This sounds like sour grapes. Danny fires me for whatever reason, I must try to bring him down even while protesting that i love the 3abn ministry. Notice this has nothingt to do with the merits of the disagreement between Brother J and Danny. danny may well be in the wrong but that is another matter that cannot be settled in this forum.

3ABN is a valuable ministry to the church and the world. We should not allow personal grievances to derail this ministry.

Pray for Danny and Linda and the others and the 3ABN ministry and leave the rest to God.

[princessdi]

Yes in his letter he does not claim that Danny is besmirching his name. he addresses intra-3abn management issues that we have no way of judging one way or another.

In the supposed Danny letter to this forum, nowhere does the author mention Brother J.

This sounds like sour grapes. Danny fires me for whatever reason, I must try to bring him down even while protesting that i love the 3abn ministry. Notice this has nothingt to do with the merits of the disagreement between Brother J and Danny. danny may well be in the wrong but that is another matter that cannot be settled in this forum.

3ABN is a valuable ministry to the church and the world. We should not allow personal grievances to derail this ministry.

Pray for Danny and Linda and the others and the 3ABN ministry and leave the rest to God.

What you don't realize is that Danny has been all over the place as late as last Sabbath making vague remarks about the situation. If you have not already done so, go back and read posts from "This should not be news - Continuation, Letter From Danny Shelton to BlackSDA". Especially the ones from this week. You can't comprehend what we are saying without reading the posts.