What He Said! (db On Commandment #7), Doug B. on Adultery Options

[Aletheia]

See now, I got some revelations about DB tonight. I got some questions. Now let me say this, I know this stuff is in his past and have little value to my opinion of him, but realize that they do influence his own views today. He and JL used to partipciate with this weekly round table discussion with some ministers of other denoms and they made a dynamite team. I was proud of both of them. Now, like Danny, I beleive Doug to have some race issues,(jes being real. Youare hard pressed to find black people in his audience now., and he wnts to move his church where they are virutally non existent, not a coincedence by any stretch of the imagination. God is not through with any of us yet.), and I don't agree with him 100% of the time, but I can listen to him, understand him. I by no means think him incapable or unworthy of itting at the helm of a merged 3ABN/AF. As I said, God is not through with any of us yet.

So now his parents were in show business? and I heard him talk about it, but when exactly did he go to eh countains to be a hermit? He ain't that old, so when did he have all them children? Just a little history here.

Danny and Doug have race issues? That's a first. It is my understanding that the reason that the little town of T'vill is not friendly about 3abn is because they have hired many african americans as well as hispanics. In a community where there is still a KKK that would make sense.
Let's see, a man of color is head of production, a man of color is the pastor of the T'ville Church, several women of color have worked and do work there (I have seen one on an interview), the Aikens do programming, T Marshall preaches, Wintley Phipps sings, preaches, has done interviews and sits on the board, there are lots of singers of color, Mrs. Lomacang works in the radio department....And all of this in a town that doesn't have one african american resident except for those who are employed at 3abn. mmm...I am failing to see a race issue.
So if Doug wanted to move his church or AF where black people were non existent ( your allegation) then all he would have to do is move to T'ville.

[from-the-pew]

You lost count? That seems like a rude and ridiculous comment considering everyone knows he had 4 children with his first wife and 2 with his second. Are you having a hard time counting to 6? Actually 5 now that his one son was killed in an large equipment accident.
Again, I fail to see the relevance to any of this.

No, I beg to differ. Never, ever have I heard 6. He and his first wife had 2 sons and a daughter. He and his current have 2 sons. Yes, I remember Daniel & Micah running around - I'm not a lot older than them. During the Millenium of Prophecy, he mentioned that he had 5 children, and that had recently tragically lost one of them. Just because one died, doesn't mean that he will suddenly remove him from the list.

As for his story, you can view it here: http://www.amazingfacts.org/about_us/pastor_doug.asp (this was recorded before his father died.)

A newer version of his testimony
http://www.dougbatchelor.com/MyTestimony/t...60/Default.aspx

And he lived alone in the cave.

This post has been edited by from-the-pew: May 9 2007, 07:33 AM

[LaurenceD]

It is my understanding that the reason that the little town of T'vill is not friendly about 3abn is because they have hired many african americans as well as hispanics. In a community where there is still a KKK that would make sense.

Does anyone know how local Thompsonville residents really feel about 3abn?

It sounds like the community's negative perception of the compound was based on 3abn trying to get out of paying it's fair share of taxes, not racial issues. The judge put it this way: In a letter attached to the 2000 year application, the Village of Thompsonville adamantly (emphasis in original attachment) opposed the requested exemption. The Board of Review of Franklin County, the Cave township supervisor, and the Cave Township Board had a similar reaction.

[Clay]

Danny and Doug have race issues? That's a first. It is my understanding that the reason that the little town of T'vill is not friendly about 3abn is because they have hired many african americans as well as hispanics. In a community where there is still a KKK that would make sense.
Let's see, a man of color is head of production, a man of color is the pastor of the T'ville Church, several women of color have worked and do work there (I have seen one on an interview), the Aikens do programming, T Marshall preaches, Wintley Phipps sings, preaches, has done interviews and sits on the board, there are lots of singers of color, Mrs. Lomacang works in the radio department....And all of this in a town that doesn't have one african american resident except for those who are employed at 3abn. mmm...I am failing to see a race issue.
So if Doug wanted to move his church or AF where black people were non existent ( your allegation) then all he would have to do is move to T'ville.

because you haven't heard it means it must not be true right? Interesting indeed....

Using that logic we can conclude that slavemasters did not have color problems.... after all they had black people cooking their food, black people working in their fields, black people driving them around, and black people in their beds either as bed warmers or something else.... thanks Cindy for enlightening me....

[awesumtenor]

because you haven't heard it means it must not be true right? Interesting indeed....

Using that logic we can conclude that slavemasters did not have color problems.... after all they had black people cooking their food, black people working in their fields, black people driving them around, and black people in their beds either as bed warmers or something else.... thanks Cindy for enlightening me....

Or, to put it in the words of Mr. Pascoe, my uber-bigoted 9th grade ancient and medieval history teacher... " I have nothing against nigras; I think everybody should own a few..."

In His service,
Mr. J

[watchbird]

Does anyone know how local Thompsonville residents really feel about 3abn?

It sounds like the community's negative perception of the compound was based on 3abn trying to get out of paying it's fair share of taxes, not racial issues. The judge put it this way: In a letter attached to the 2000 year application, the Village of Thompsonville adamantly (emphasis in original attachment) opposed the requested exemption. The Board of Review of Franklin County, the Cave township supervisor, and the Cave Township Board had a similar reaction.

The problems between Thompsonville residents and 3abn go back a lot farther and are much more widespread than merely the property tax issues.

Duane Clem, PJMusic, Beartrap, and others on BSDA who are or have been residents of T'ville could give a lot of first hand testimony from the community side of things. But before you do try to contact them privately...."do your homework" right here on the board to see what they have already said.

You'll need the search function and patience... but here is one sample.....

Dig, dig, dig..... ...... and keep digging....

[HUGGINS130]

Danny and Doug have race issues? That's a first. It is my understanding that the reason that the little town of T'vill is not friendly about 3abn is because they have hired many african americans as well as hispanics. In a community where there is still a KKK that would make sense.
Let's see, a man of color is head of production, a man of color is the pastor of the T'ville Church, several women of color have worked and do work there (I have seen one on an interview), the Aikens do programming, T Marshall preaches, Wintley Phipps sings, preaches, has done interviews and sits on the board, there are lots of singers of color, Mrs. Lomacang works in the radio department....And all of this in a town that doesn't have one african american resident except for those who are employed at 3abn. mmm...I am failing to see a race issue.
So if Doug wanted to move his church or AF where black people were non existent ( your allegation) then all he would have to do is move to T'ville.

I bet the only color that D. Shelton and D. Batchelor are worried about is $$$$$ nuff said!!

This post has been edited by HUGGINS130: May 9 2007, 09:06 AM

[Aletheia]

because you haven't heard it means it must not be true right? Interesting indeed....

Using that logic we can conclude that slavemasters did not have color problems.... after all they had black people cooking their food, black people working in their fields, black people driving them around, and black people in their beds either as bed warmers or something else.... thanks Cindy for enlightening me....

You seem to have serious issues, and they just keeps coming up and clouding your view. My opinion and I'm sticking to it.

What I did see this past weekend were brethren of every hue and color, and the huge participation of the Black Churches in Chicago, and I heard the call to end the divisions based on color in the Churches, and the amens all around me.

The truth is, you can always find what you seek Clay.. Some are always borrowing trouble.

For myself, and I know I am not alone, I am seeking a better place and I know if we can't live together in the here and now, we won't be living together in heaven or the new earth.

We are called to be apart from the world, and God's people are one family, and need to start behaving like it.

The problems between Thompsonville residents and 3abn go back a lot farther and are much more widespread than merely the property tax issues.

Duane Clem, PJMusic, Beartrap, and others on BSDA who are or have been residents of T'ville could give a lot of first hand testimony from the community side of things. But before you do try to contact them privately...."do your homework" right here on the board to see what they have already said.

You'll need the search function and patience... but here is one sample.....

Dig, dig, dig..... ...... and keep digging....

And if you only consult those who have an axe to grind, you know what you will find before even looking, so why bother???

I bet the only color that D. Shelton and D. Batchelor are worried about is $$$$$ nuff said!!

That's just downright ugly.

[HUGGINS130]

You seem to have serious issues, and they just keeps coming up and clouding your view. My opinion and I'm sticking to it.

What I did see this past weekend were brethren of every hue and color, and the huge participation of the Black Churches in Chicago, and I heard the call to end the divisions based on color in the Churches, and the amens all around me.

The truth is, you can always find what you seek Clay.. Some are always borrowing trouble.

For myself, and I know I am not alone, I am seeking a better place and I know if we can't live together in the here and now, we won't be living together in heaven or the new earth.

We are called to be apart from the world, and God's people are one family, and need to start behaving like it.
And if you only consult those who have an axe to grind, you know what you will find before even looking, so why bother???
That's just downright ugly.

and ugly gets exposure too!!! Moving on as the saying goes you can fool some of the people some of the time, but you can't fool all of the people all the time...
The truth is Danny and Doug have race issues... they want every class of individuals $ that they can get, and it doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure that out!!! Ministry is so washed up today it ain't even funny...it's about money and less about Christ! If it wasn't about money, then why do they need so much?

This post has been edited by HUGGINS130: May 9 2007, 09:28 AM

[Clay]

You seem to have serious issues, and they just keeps coming up and clouding your view. My opinion and I'm sticking to it.

What I did see this past weekend were brethren of every hue and color, and the huge participation of the Black Churches in Chicago, and I heard the call to end the divisions based on color in the Churches, and the amens all around me.

The truth is, you can always find what you seek Clay.. Some are always borrowing trouble.

For myself, and I know I am not alone, I am seeking a better place and I know if we can't live together in the here and now, we won't be living together in heaven or the new earth.

We are called to be apart from the world, and God's people are one family, and need to start behaving like it.
And if you only consult those who have an axe to grind, you know what you will find before even looking, so why bother???
That's just downright ugly.

my issues are no more serious than your issues... likewise they do not cloud my view anymore than yours cloud your view.... do you really want to go there? I mean really....

As for what you saw in Chi-town..... that is a whole different horse.... and I suspect that it is easy for those who have power and have little to lose to talk about uniting and being one.... do your homework..... it is easier said than implemented....

[YogusBearus]

and ugly gets exposure too!!! Moving on as the saying goes you can fool some of the people some of the time, but you can't fool all of the people all the time...
The truth is Danny and Doug have race issues... they want every class of individuals $ that they can get, and it doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure that out!!! Ministry is so washed up today it ain't even funny...it's about money and less about Christ! If it wasn't about money, then why do they need so much?

What he said! When you boil it down, all you will have left is how can these "ministries" get their hand in your pocket. That is a unfortunate universal truth that includes all the players in this mess.

-bear

[Clay]

What he said! When you boil it down, all you will have left is how can these "ministries" get their hand in your pocket. That is a unfortunate universal truth that includes all the players in this mess.

-bear

a friend of mine (methodist minister in fact) once said,

if the gospel you are preaching includes asking for money.... it aint the gospel....

and to that I agree...

[princessdi]

Please Gurl, this is beyond your understanding. Don't even try it. I am not going to answer you because you still would not understand,

Danny and Doug have race issues? That's a first. It is my understanding that the reason that the little town of T'vill is not friendly about 3abn is because they have hired many african americans as well as hispanics. In a community where there is still a KKK that would make sense.
Let's see, a man of color is head of production, a man of color is the pastor of the T'ville Church, several women of color have worked and do work there (I have seen one on an interview), the Aikens do programming, T Marshall preaches, Wintley Phipps sings, preaches, has done interviews and sits on the board, there are lots of singers of color, Mrs. Lomacang works in the radio department....And all of this in a town that doesn't have one african american resident except for those who are employed at 3abn. mmm...I am failing to see a race issue.
So if Doug wanted to move his church or AF where black people were non existent ( your allegation) then all he would have to do is move to T'ville.

[princessdi]

Ok?!!!

Or, to put it in the words of Mr. Pascoe, my uber-bigoted 9th grade ancient and medieval history teacher... " I have nothing against nigras; I think everybody should own a few..."

In His service,
Mr. J

[PeacefulBe]

Danny and Doug have race issues? That's a first. It is my understanding that the reason that the little town of T'vill is not friendly about 3abn is because they have hired many african americans as well as hispanics. In a community where there is still a KKK that would make sense.
Let's see, a man of color is head of production, a man of color is the pastor of the T'ville Church, several women of color have worked and do work there (I have seen one on an interview), the Aikens do programming, T Marshall preaches, Wintley Phipps sings, preaches, has done interviews and sits on the board, there are lots of singers of color, Mrs. Lomacang works in the radio department....And all of this in a town that doesn't have one african american resident except for those who are employed at 3abn. mmm...I am failing to see a race issue.
So if Doug wanted to move his church or AF where black people were non existent ( your allegation) then all he would have to do is move to T'ville.

Cindy,
There is no KKK chapter in T'ville. It is over in Benton. Bystander once charged the very same thing and HOTY set the record straight >>>HERE<<<<. There hasn't been a rally there since the '90s and most of the non-white 3abn employees live in other towns.

Duane further clarified the issue about T'ville feelings towards 3abn >>>HERE<<<.

3abn has bent over backwards to give the appearance of racial tolerance. However, sometimes what Danny says makes it look more like he and others at 3abn are bending over backwards to be racially condescending. I will share with you a case in point.

Near the end of the first hour of the TCW programming, after Danny had told his fat jokes about Melody and Jennifer LaMountain having trouble squeezing by each other at the stage entrance, and while he was introducing the song he, Melody and CA Murray were about to sing together, he launched into an anecdote about the history of the trio. Seems that back in New York, when Danny had just met CA, he was informed that he, CA and Melody were supposed to sing together. Danny was worried about it since he didn't know if CA could sing so he went to ask advice of another 3abn leader. To the Chicago TCW audience, Danny said "I don't know if this is politically correct or not, but Mollie Steenson told me 'He's black, he can sing' ". I don't know how many in the auditorium were amused.

Adding this to the other condescending things Danny has said at rallies held in black churches, one might begin to think that pehaps a course in proper race relations might be in order for some of the 3abn leadership.