Looks Like Ds Already Has His, "reward In Full!" Options

[mikell]

Jesus said in Matthew 6:5:

"And when you pray, do not be like the hypocrites, for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and on the street corners to be seen by men. I tell you the truth, they have received their reward in full.

Notice, for those who love to receive great honor from others, to be the focus of “holy” admiration, almost and on to being a god among men, “In the synagogues or (being in front of cameras aired throughout the world over to be loved by the world)…I tell the truth, they have received their reward in full—” Jesus.

We, who are concern how ds arrogance is so blatant to the point from his lying against his wife, Linda about committing adultery to marry another; unto other abuses unto seeking reverence from others by setting himself up above all the SDA leaders. (Not even the GC President has his own private Lear Jet type of plane at his beckon call, like it is with ds to fly around the world with, so when he lands the red carpet of admiration is rolled out before him). Therefore, of course ds sees himself to be greater than all. Something like as a pope of Adventism, for seeing himself as the face of the Adventist Church itself!

However, you and I must keep the words of Jesus in our minds constantly, “I tell you the truth, they (ds and his cronies who worship him) have (already have) received their reward in full!” What ds has now, that is it! His reward is in full! It is very sad. Pity him. He is likening to Esau who traded off his birthright just for a cup of soup, ds traded his off his birthright for heaven for a cup of earthly glory, is that worth it? We should not fret over ds’s abuses of evil unto trying to be a god among us Adventists, for he already have their reward.

Yes, it is good to warn others the evil ds is doing, for Paul in II Tim. 4:14 warned the rest of the Christians in his day about “Alexander, the coppersmith being evil.” Yes, we need to warn the Christian Adventists of ds’s evil, as well. However, do keep in mind; even if his evil continues for the rest of his life, it is all what he has now. For he already has his “reward in full!’

PS, anyone has done you personal harm, in stealing from you, conning you out of all of your savings, beating you and even been molested or assaulted. do not forget, that as ds has already his reward in full so do the rest of them in the world – all who have hurt you, as well!” Comfort yourself with those words of Jesus – they already have their “reward in full.”

According to Malachi 4:1-3, the day for you will come that when you live on forever your feet will trampling down the dust of those who have hurt you, forever and ever in the New World to come. You and I will forget all those who have hurt us so hard so deep, but be of good cheer, for our Lord Jesus has overcome the world. He will not forsake us, and Jesus will fulfill all of His promises. He is coming soon and all this will be forgotten, forever! Be of good cheer,

[Artiste]

Jesus said in Matthew 6:5:

"And when you pray, do not be like the hypocrites, for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and on the street corners to be seen by men. I tell you the truth, they have received their reward in full.

Notice, for those who love to receive great honor from others, to be the focus of “holy” admiration, almost and on to being a god among men, “In the synagogues or (being in front of cameras aired throughout the world over to be loved by the world)…I tell the truth, they have received their reward in full—” Jesus.

We, who are concern how ds arrogance is so blatant to the point from his lying against his wife, Linda about committing adultery to marry another; unto other abuses unto seeking reverence from others by setting himself up above all the SDA leaders. (Not even the GC President has his own private Lear Jet type of plane at his beckon call, like it is with ds to fly around the world with, so when he lands the red carpet of admiration is rolled out before him). Therefore, of course ds sees himself to be greater than all. Something like as a pope of Adventism, for seeing himself as the face of the Adventist Church itself!

However, you and I must keep the words of Jesus in our minds constantly, “I tell you the truth, they (ds and his cronies who worship him) have (already have) received their reward in full!” What ds has now, that is it! His reward is in full! It is very sad. Pity him. He is likening to Esau who traded off his birthright just for a cup of soup, ds traded his off his birthright for heaven for a cup of earthly glory, is that worth it? We should not fret over ds’s abuses of evil unto trying to be a god among us Adventists, for he already have their reward.

Yes, it is good to warn others the evil ds is doing, for Paul in II Tim. 4:14 warned the rest of the Christians in his day about “Alexander, the coppersmith being evil.” Yes, we need to warn the Christian Adventists of ds’s evil, as well. However, do keep in mind; even if his evil continues for the rest of his life, it is all what he has now. For he already has his “reward in full!’

PS, anyone has done you personal harm, in stealing from you, conning you out of all of your savings, beating you and even been molested or assaulted. do not forget, that as ds has already his reward in full so do the rest of them in the world – all who have hurt you, as well!” Comfort yourself with those words of Jesus – they already have their “reward in full.”

According to Malachi 4:1-3, the day for you will come that when you live on forever your feet will trampling down the dust of those who have hurt you, forever and ever in the New World to come. You and I will forget all those who have hurt us so hard so deep, but be of good cheer, for our Lord Jesus has overcome the world. He will not forsake us, and Jesus will fulfill all of His promises. He is coming soon and all this will be forgotten, forever! Be of good cheer,

Nice thoughts, thank you, mikell!

This post has been edited by Artiste: Jun 11 2007, 03:03 PM

[calvin]

DS does not try to hide the fact that he has a corporate jet. My mother told me at he addressed the question publicly at his campmeeting last year. He explained it as a needed service because of his busy travel schedule.

He can have all the jets he wants because I am not paying for it, as far as I am concerned. If the donators don’t have a problem with it, then why should I or anybody else who don’t make any financial contribution to this ministry?

[PeacefulBe]

DS does not try to hide the fact that he has a corporate jet. My mother told me at he addressed the question publicly at his campmeeting last year. He explained it as a needed service because of his busy travel schedule.

He can have all the jets he wants because I am not paying for it, as far as I am concerned. If the donators don’t have a problem with it, then why should I or anybody else who don’t make any financial contribution to this ministry?

Calvin,

I'm very glad to hear that DS is telling his audience that he has the jet. That is being open. That is progress!

[mikell]

DS does not try to hide the fact that he has a corporate jet. My mother told me at he addressed the question publicly at his campmeeting last year. He explained it as a needed service because of his busy travel schedule.

He can have all the jets he wants because I am not paying for it, as far as I am concerned. If the donators don’t have a problem with it, then why should I or anybody else who don’t make any financial contribution to this ministry?

I am too, very happy to hear ds does not hide the fact he has a Lear Jet type plane, but Calvin that was not my point. The point I was making, since ds does have one, it seems that adds to his status in his own mind being the number one in our Adventist Church, even above leaders in the GC, since they even do not have one. Of course, it is just speculation on my part, and I could be 100% mistaken. However, seeing how ds believes that he is the one and only the, “Face of Adventism,” I think my original thesis is correct.

I said nothing about him hiding the fact he has one, in fact did you know ds has two cooperate jets?

Ha, one would think at least ds could share one of his Lear Jets with the GC! Or just maybe ds is so important of a man, number one in our church to go places so just in case one jet breaks down, at least he has a back up jet so he still can fly where ever the important place ds must get to! Just think of it. If ds did not make it, our Seventh day Adventist church will just fall apart! Yes, I really understand now why ds must have two jets!

Are you trying to say when you wrote, why ds needs his Lear Jet type plane in that he, “Explained it as a needed service because of his busy travel schedule,” the need is only exclusive to him? What about the GC leaders, don’t you think they too are in the, “Needed service because of [their] busy travel schedule?” One would think, if the GC leaders fly commercial in hassling driving to the airport two hours before their flights, why ds couldn’t do that also? Oh, I just had a V8 moment!

I just keep forgetting that ds is the true face of Adventism and it is below him to hassle the driving to a commercial airport two hours before flights. Such an important man just can’t wait, like all the GC leaders are doing all the time. Duh, you could say I am just a slow learner.

[Richard Sherwin]

According to his chairman of the board, Walt Thompson, they have canceled the lease on the jet, even thought it is a blow to the ministry. I feel so awful that they have to give up that 6 million dollar plane.

Richard

[mikell]

According to his chairman of the board, Walt Thompson, they have canceled the lease on the jet, even thought it is a blow to the ministry. I feel so awful that they have to give up that 6 million dollar plane.

Richard

Love the sarcasm,

This post has been edited by mikell: Jun 11 2007, 07:22 PM

[Artiste]

According to his chairman of the board, Walt Thompson, they have canceled the lease on the jet, even thought it is a blow to the ministry. I feel so awful that they have to give up that 6 million dollar plane.

Richard

I have to wonder if the GC, Amazing Facts, and ASI feel that Walt Thompson and the board are sufficiently taking care of matters at 3ABN by removing some of DS' perks.

It seems to me that the problems at 3ABN go much deeper than that.

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[Richard Sherwin]

Too bad they had to feel the heat from places like BSDA to get the message. They are several years behind the ball on this one IMO.

Richard

I have to wonder if the GC, Amazing Facts, and ASI feel that Walt Thompson and the board are sufficiently taking care of matters at 3ABN by removing some of DS' perks.

It seems to me that the problems at 3ABN go much deeper than that.

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[Rosyroi]

Too bad they had to feel the heat from places like BSDA to get the message. They are several years behind the ball on this one IMO.

Richard

AMEN

That is one down... more to come... Thank you 3ABN for going in the right direction.

Rosyroi

[Voktar of Zargon]

I have to wonder if the GC, Amazing Facts, and ASI feel that Walt Thompson and the board are sufficiently taking care of matters at 3ABN by removing some of DS' perks.

It seems to me that the problems at 3ABN go much deeper than that.

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There's a new book out that chronicles the revolution in corporate America called "Revolt in the Boardroom" by Wall Street Journal Columnist Alan Murray. Here is part of a book review:

"Throughout the 20th century, American corporations were governed by autocratic, almost unaccountable chief executives. Their word was law and the only check on their power was a board of directors composed of their friends and allies.

Then, in a stunning reversal, a momentous series of firings deposed the heads of some of the world's best-known companies: AIG, Morgan Stanley, Boeing, Hewlett-Packard and Pfizer, just to name a few. Formerly unchallenged CEOs found themselves under fire, often from their own handpicked boards. The number of deposed executives is astonishing. In 2004, the leaders of 600 companies were asked to leave. That number more than doubled in 2005 and reached 1,400 companies in 2006.

Flexing new muscles, directors are assuming new and unfamiliar responsibilities. In Revolt in the Boardroom, Alan Murray reveals the inner workings of the new seat of power. "

If the board of directors of 3ABN would "sufficiently take care of matters," they would depose Danny Shelton from his autocratic seat of power (that he should have stepped down from voluntarily long ago). One of the main reasons that 21st century corporation boards took such matters into their own hands is because they suddenly found themselves liable for the CEO's abuses. Perhaps the 3ABN board will finally wake up and realize they are also spiritually liable.

[Richard Sherwin]

Good post. Something to chew on.

There's a new book out that chronicles the revolution in corporate America called "Revolt in the Boardroom" by Wall Street Journal Columnist Alan Murray. Here is part of a book review:

"Throughout the 20th century, American corporations were governed by autocratic, almost unaccountable chief executives. Their word was law and the only check on their power was a board of directors composed of their friends and allies.

Then, in a stunning reversal, a momentous series of firings deposed the heads of some of the world's best-known companies: AIG, Morgan Stanley, Boeing, Hewlett-Packard and Pfizer, just to name a few. Formerly unchallenged CEOs found themselves under fire, often from their own handpicked boards. The number of deposed executives is astonishing. In 2004, the leaders of 600 companies were asked to leave. That number more than doubled in 2005 and reached 1,400 companies in 2006.

Flexing new muscles, directors are assuming new and unfamiliar responsibilities. In Revolt in the Boardroom, Alan Murray reveals the inner workings of the new seat of power. "

If the board of directors of 3ABN would "sufficiently take care of matters," they would depose Danny Shelton from his autocratic seat of power (that he should have stepped down from voluntarily long ago). One of the main reasons that 21st century corporation boards took such matters into their own hands is because they suddenly found themselves liable for the CEO's abuses. Perhaps the 3ABN board will finally wake up and realize they are also spiritually liable.

[mikell]

There's a new book out that chronicles the revolution in corporate America called "Revolt in the Boardroom" by Wall Street Journal Columnist Alan Murray. Here is part of a book review:

"Throughout the 20th century, American corporations were governed by autocratic, almost unaccountable chief executives. Their word was law and the only check on their power was a board of directors composed of their friends and allies.

Then, in a stunning reversal, a momentous series of firings deposed the heads of some of the world's best-known companies: AIG, Morgan Stanley, Boeing, Hewlett-Packard and Pfizer, just to name a few. Formerly unchallenged CEOs found themselves under fire, often from their own handpicked boards. The number of deposed executives is astonishing. In 2004, the leaders of 600 companies were asked to leave. That number more than doubled in 2005 and reached 1,400 companies in 2006.

Flexing new muscles, directors are assuming new and unfamiliar responsibilities. In Revolt in the Boardroom, Alan Murray reveals the inner workings of the new seat of power. "

If the board of directors of 3ABN would "sufficiently take care of matters," they would depose Danny Shelton from his autocratic seat of power (that he should have stepped down from voluntarily long ago). One of the main reasons that 21st century corporation boards took such matters into their own hands is because they suddenly found themselves liable for the CEO's abuses. Perhaps the 3ABN board will finally wake up and realize they are also spiritually liable.

Voktar, what you shared here is brilliant. Every 3abn board member should read this. I just wish I had all of their emails. Does not this go back to, "Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap?".

[Artiste]

If the board of directors of 3ABN would "sufficiently take care of matters," they would depose Danny Shelton from his autocratic seat of power (that he should have stepped down from voluntarily long ago). One of the main reasons that 21st century corporation boards took such matters into their own hands is because they suddenly found themselves liable for the CEO's abuses. Perhaps the 3ABN board will finally wake up and realize they are also spiritually liable.

So true!

And that was a very interesting review! I wonder if the liability of the 3ABN board might include any temporal factors in addition to the spiritual, in this age of lawsuits.


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[steffan]

I am too, very happy to hear ds does not hide the fact he has a Lear Jet type plane, but Calvin that was not my point. The point I was making, since ds does have one, it seems that adds to his status in his own mind being the number one in our Adventist Church, even above leaders in the GC, since they even do not have one. Of course, it is just speculation on my part, and I could be 100% mistaken. However, seeing how ds believes that he is the one and only the, “Face of Adventism,” I think my original thesis is correct.

I said nothing about him hiding the fact he has one, in fact did you know ds has two cooperate jets?

I have never heard Danny refer to himself as the face of Adventism. In fact, I have never heard anyone close to him say that he was. If someone, somewhere, said that at sometime, why should you put the blame on him.
More importantly, I feel that I should warn you about making false statements as facts. That is exactly what Pickle and Joy are doing.
FICTION--- 3abn Does Not have a Lear jet It is a 6 seat Cessna
FICTION---3abn Does Not have 2 jets. several years ago they used a 6 seater that they weren't happy with. They got rid of that one and someone leased the present plane for them.
FICTION--- How can the cost of the plane be 6 million when it was only on lease and never purchased?
If you are so "in the know" about things, Mikell, how could you get so many things wrong?
Again, you need to watch making false statements especially when they can be proven to be false. THis is just a minute part of lies that are being told that can be and will be, proven false.