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calvin
post Jun 25 2007, 12:44 PM
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I want to remind everyone that these discussions are on a very public and open forum and available for anyone to read and most anyone can join here as a member. Now that there is ongoing litigation involving 3abn I would caution you to be protective of your private and personal information include your identity. The staff here will continue to safeguard your right to be post anonymously regardless of which side of the discussion you support. Please report any attempts to gain personal information to the administrators here.

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post Jun 26 2007, 04:36 PM
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okie dokie, artichokie! thanks for the reminder.
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post Jun 26 2007, 08:13 PM
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QUOTE(calvin @ Jun 25 2007, 02:44 PM) [snapback]201387[/snapback]

The staff here will continue to safeguard your right to be post anonymously regardless of which side of the discussion you support. Please report any attempts to gain personal information to the administrators here.

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Too bad this policy didn't exist before. Maybe my thread wouldn't have been locked down and Robert Pickle wouldn't have been given full rein.

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post Jun 26 2007, 09:44 PM
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QUOTE(fallible humanbeing @ Jun 26 2007, 09:13 PM) [snapback]201633[/snapback]

Too bad this policy didn't exist before. Maybe my thread wouldn't have been locked down and Robert Pickle wouldn't have been given full rein.

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Well, I think the key phrase in Calvin's post was "now that there is ongoing litigation" and last time I checked it is the plaintiff who intiates such.

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post Jun 26 2007, 10:08 PM
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QUOTE(fallible humanbeing @ Jun 26 2007, 09:13 PM) [snapback]201633[/snapback]

Too bad this policy didn't exist before. Maybe my thread wouldn't have been locked down and Robert Pickle wouldn't have been given full rein.

-FHB

I think that statement is a little unfair considering that I banned Pickle for 2 weeks for hinting at your identity. But then can't please everybody. Now FHB are you back to contribute to the ongoing discuss or to continue taking shots at how I administer this forum? If it is the latter I will make sure you join the list of BSDA rejects.
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post Jun 26 2007, 11:53 PM
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Calvin, may I ask you something to clear up a concerned thought that just crossed my mind?

You are in contact with many other SDA Forum Sysops however closely or losely it may be.

Have you (or the other BSDA Mods/Admins) revealed to these other Forum managers the private names from some of those here posting behind their monikers?

Anyone of us has good or troubled connections with others in other Forums and prefer to remain as separate entity here at your place. Except for those, obviously, who fly under their own name flag.
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post Jun 27 2007, 08:00 AM
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QUOTE(Whitey @ Jun 27 2007, 12:53 AM) [snapback]201645[/snapback]

Calvin, may I ask you something to clear up a concerned thought that just crossed my mind?

You are in contact with many other SDA Forum Sysops however closely or losely it may be.

Have you (or the other BSDA Mods/Admins) revealed to these other Forum managers the private names from some of those here posting behind their monikers?

Anyone of us has good or troubled connections with others in other Forums and prefer to remain as separate entity here at your place. Except for those, obviously, who fly under their own name flag.

Daryl from Maritime and Stan from ClubAdventist and myself are members of each other boards as many members are here. So to answer your question we know how to reach out to each other if we want or need to, and we have on ocassion, but rarely. We have a healthly respect for each other realizing how differcult at times managing a discussion board can be. We take a different approach to how we manage our forums as I think anyone would expect since we are different, as evidence by the approach we have taken on the 3abn saga. I am not a member on any other Adventist forums.

No, I have not revealed any personal information about any member to another member or non-member. But keep in mind like any community we do get to know each other on a personal bases.

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post Jun 27 2007, 09:20 AM
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QUOTE(Whitey @ Jun 27 2007, 12:53 AM) [snapback]201645[/snapback]

Calvin, may I ask you something to clear up a concerned thought that just crossed my mind?

You are in contact with many other SDA Forum Sysops however closely or losely it may be.

Have you (or the other BSDA Mods/Admins) revealed to these other Forum managers the private names from some of those here posting behind their monikers?

Anyone of us has good or troubled connections with others in other Forums and prefer to remain as separate entity here at your place. Except for those, obviously, who fly under their own name flag.


Interesting question. Something that might be even more interesting would be the position that the board owner takes on revealing membership information to third parties such as interested attorneys. I have absolutely no question where Calvin stands in this area. I am uncertain as to the approach other discussion boards might take.

As a hypothetical example, it would be interesting to know if the board owner would voluntarily agree to cooperate with attorneys form either side in the 3abn mess. If they did in anyway convey personal identities, what would there legal jeopardy be?

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post Jun 27 2007, 08:09 PM
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QUOTE(YogusBearus @ Jun 27 2007, 11:20 AM) [snapback]201701[/snapback]

Interesting question. Something that might be even more interesting would be the position that the board owner takes on revealing membership information to third parties such as interested attorneys. I have absolutely no question where Calvin stands in this area. I am uncertain as to the approach other discussion boards might take.

As a hypothetical example, it would be interesting to know if the board owner would voluntarily agree to cooperate with attorneys form either side in the 3abn mess. If they did in anyway convey personal identities, what would there legal jeopardy be?

-bear


I agree with you on this, bear. It is not inconceivable that Calvin could be contacted via legal process to produce membership information. Should that occur, I certainly hope everyone on this forum is prepared to financially support him in defending our privacy.

I suppose reading a forum's membership rules would be a good place to start in determining what a member's privacy rights are or their expectations of same. I also wonder if more is expected when membership requires a financial contribution rather than is free as here at BSDA. doh.gif

I can only wonder how members on other boards would react if they thought there was even a chance that their identities had been revealed in a legal matter. Or do they even care? dunno.gif


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post Jun 28 2007, 07:36 AM
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Provocative thoughts, Bear and NW.

I certainly don't see Calvin as one who would line up to sell us out if asked. I would be happy to contribute to any future defense fund should the need arise and would even feel more than comfortable with paying a small monthly fee for membership. I would, however, get a little nervous should he decide to charge a monthly "Identity Protection Assurance" fee.

Calvin, other than you own highly commendable declaration to safeguard our right to post on BSDA anonymously, are you familiar with any legal or ethical expectations of membership privacy issues as they relate to a forum such as BSDA? Is there even any such protection in place?


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post Jun 28 2007, 11:50 AM
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ClubAdventist was pro-danny weren't they? At least that's the feel I got from the head guy... perhaps if you are a member there you might want to check out what the terms of membership are... I suspect if the owner is pro-danny some members are being sold down the river as we speak.... or their identities are. Just speculating of course....


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post Jun 28 2007, 01:20 PM
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QUOTE(Clay @ Jun 28 2007, 12:50 PM) [snapback]201903[/snapback]

Club Adventist was pro-Danny weren't they? At least that's the feel I got from the head guy... perhaps if you are a member there you might want to check out what the terms of membership are... I suspect if the owner is pro-Danny some members are being sold down the river as we speak.... or their identities are. Just speculating of course....


Being a member of Club Adventist, I found that the owner is NOT always aware of what other "Friends" are doing and saying right under his nose. Voltaire Wannabe was/is alive and well spreading private information around with others. He loves identifying others, but turns to hot, deadly fire if you ever get anywhere close to identifying him! blowup.gif

I know who he is! Shocking, to say the least. He would actually find this a challenge to good to refuse, in my opinion!

Do I believe Voltaire Wannabe would gladly give any identity away with out a thought? You betcha I do! It has happened to me. Then I blew his cover.

In my opinion, Voltaire Wannabe is a very dangerous individual. Otherwise I would be telling the information high and low! I believe people should know who they are dealing with.

Been there done that!


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post Jun 29 2007, 04:14 AM
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Fran : “He loves identifying others, but turns to hot, deadly fire if you ever get anywhere close to identifying him!”

Ohyeahr? Just let that Mikey boy try and put his vice-president violent hands on me and see what happens!

Here’s Mikey Voltaire’s picture and profile.. http://www.churchstate.org/article.php?id=...0816cd65b41f161
It's water under the bridge that hundreds know who he is since the debacle over at "that other" Forum.

PeacefullB said “….should he decide to charge a monthly "Identity Protection Assurance" fee.”

Now that’s a great idea! Here I come … paypal!
Crank up the ATM maschine Calvin, ya goin’ to be a rich guy soon.

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post Jun 29 2007, 05:53 AM
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QUOTE(Whitey @ Jun 29 2007, 06:14 AM) [snapback]201996[/snapback]

Fran : “He loves identifying others, but turns to hot, deadly fire if you ever get anywhere close to identifying him!”

Ohyeahr? Just let that Mikey boy try and put his vice-president violent hands on me and see what happens!

Here’s Mikey Voltaire’s picture and profile.. http://www.churchstate.org/article.php?id=...0816cd65b41f161
It's water under the bridge that hundreds know who he is since the debacle over at "that other" Forum.

PeacefullB said “….should he decide to charge a monthly "Identity Protection Assurance" fee.”

Now that’s a great idea! Here I come … paypal!
Crank up the ATM maschine Calvin, ya goin’ to be a rich guy soon.

......... blink.gif ......... doh.gif ................. spoton.gif ........ signthankspin.gif for that link Whitey. NOW things make sense. Take a look at that other picture there, ever'body. See anyone who has been mentioned recently as appearing on 3abn?

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Carry on........

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post Jun 29 2007, 02:47 PM
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I love your spirit, Whitey!! notworthy.gif Would love to meet you!! You go, gurl...!! notworthy.gif

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QUOTE(Whitey @ Jun 29 2007, 04:14 AM) [snapback]201996[/snapback]

Fran : “He loves identifying others, but turns to hot, deadly fire if you ever get anywhere close to identifying him!”

Ohyeahr? Just let that Mikey boy try and put his vice-president violent hands on me and see what happens!

Here’s Mikey Voltaire’s picture and profile.. http://www.churchstate.org/article.php?id=...0816cd65b41f161
It's water under the bridge that hundreds know who he is since the debacle over at "that other" Forum.

PeacefullB said “….should he decide to charge a monthly "Identity Protection Assurance" fee.”

Now that’s a great idea! Here I come … paypal!
Crank up the ATM maschine Calvin, ya goin’ to be a rich guy soon.

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