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post Jul 28 2007, 10:42 PM
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Hey, look at http://www.save3abn.com/danny-shelton-fina...-send-tithe.htm. Do you think they have that one right, that Danny was admitting that 3ABN knowingly accepts tithe? What do you think about the idea that you'll get a miracle if you send 3ABN your tithe?

If all this is true, what will ASI and our leaders do now? Since ASI has taken such a strong stand against member organizations accepting tithe, what will they do now if Danny really was admitting that 3ABN knowingly does that on a globally broadcasted TV program?
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post Jul 28 2007, 10:53 PM
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QUOTE(Pickle @ Jul 28 2007, 09:42 PM) *
Hey, look at http://www.save3abn.com/danny-shelton-fina...-send-tithe.htm. Do you think they have that one right, that Danny was admitting that 3ABN knowingly accepts tithe? What do you think about the idea that you'll get a miracle if you send 3ABN your tithe?

If all this is true, what will ASI and our leaders do now? Since ASI has taken such a strong stand against member organizations accepting tithe, what will they do now if Danny really was admitting that 3ABN knowingly does that on a globally broadcasted TV program?


I just looked...


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post Jul 29 2007, 05:56 AM
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QUOTE(Pickle @ Jul 28 2007, 11:42 PM) *
Hey, look at http://www.save3abn.com/danny-shelton-fina...-send-tithe.htm. Do you think they have that one right, that Danny was admitting that 3ABN knowingly accepts tithe? What do you think about the idea that you'll get a miracle if you send 3ABN your tithe?

Robert Tilton spent time in prison, if I remember correctly, for this very thing.

Not accepting tithe, but insinuating that folks would receive miracles if they sent him money.

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"Lisa and Ronda are not Danny's biological father." -- wwjd, 2/8/07
"Watchbird, The facts prove the above lie." -- wwjd, 2/13/07
"Another lie that can be proven..." -- Bystander, 3/18/07
"The thing about lies is they can be proven." -- Aletheia, 3/22/07
"I am not here to argue" -- Aletheia, 4/24/07
"She didn't move to 3ABN, she moved to Illinois" -- Aletheia, 4/25/07
"Hope is liberal. 3abn is not." -- steffan, 6/9/07
"Danny Shelton does not decide what goes on the air, period." -- appletree, 8/22/07


http://www.save-3abn.com/
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http://www.abundantrest.org/?p=74
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http://anewsabbathschool.blogspot.com/2006...ain-wrecks.html
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post Jul 29 2007, 12:08 PM
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post Jul 29 2007, 03:02 PM
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Aside from the designation of the "two top Adventist executives" by either Don Schneider or the writer of the article, I have ethical concerns about the possible (or probable) pressure being put on Adventist church leadership by an individual, no matter how well connected or powerful he may be.
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I saw a very interesting interview Friday night. Now that I'm trying to tell about it I see I wasn't paying close enough attention, but I'm pretty sure it was on The Hope Channel, and I'm pretty sure it was Don Schneider doing the interviewing and a dear lady named Audray Johnson being interviewed.

But what caught my interest was the topic - sexual abuse of a child!! This lady was a victim of her father at a young age, and even now cannot bring herself to address God as "Heavenly Father" (...except in the Lord's Prayer, she added with a smile). Pres Schneider asked her how she addresses God and she answered "usually 'Gracious God'".

Did anyone else happen to see it? I don't know when it was taped, but I am intrigued by the timing of its airing. It was a very pointed interview. When asked the most important thing one could do for a victim, she answered without hesitation "BELIEVE THEM"!!

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QUOTE(Snoopy @ Jul 29 2007, 02:02 PM) *
I saw a very interesting interview Friday night. Now that I'm trying to tell about it I see I wasn't paying close enough attention, but I'm pretty sure it was on The Hope Channel, and I'm pretty sure it was Don Schneider doing the interviewing and a dear lady named Audray Johnson being interviewed.

But what caught my interest was the topic - sexual abuse of a child!! This lady was a victim of her father at a young age, and even now cannot bring herself to address God as "Heavenly Father" (...except in the Lord's Prayer, she added with a smile). Pres Schneider asked her how she addresses God and she answered "usually 'Gracious God'".

Did anyone else happen to see it? I don't know when it was taped, but I am intrigued by the timing of its airing. It was a very pointed interview. When asked the most important thing one could do for a victim, she answered without hesitation "BELIEVE THEM"!!~~Snoopy~~


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QUOTE(Snoopy @ Jul 29 2007, 11:02 PM) *
I saw a very interesting interview Friday night. Now that I'm trying to tell about it I see I wasn't paying close enough attention, but I'm pretty sure it was on The Hope Channel, and I'm pretty sure it was Don Schneider doing the interviewing and a dear lady named Audray Johnson being interviewed.

But what caught my interest was the topic - sexual abuse of a child!! This lady was a victim of her father at a young age, and even now cannot bring herself to address God as "Heavenly Father" (...except in the Lord's Prayer, she added with a smile). Pres Schneider asked her how she addresses God and she answered "usually 'Gracious God'".

Did anyone else happen to see it? I don't know when it was taped, but I am intrigued by the timing of its airing. It was a very pointed interview. When asked the most important thing one could do for a victim, she answered without hesitation "BELIEVE THEM"!!

~~Snoopy~~


and not imply the offender is the victim


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