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> Regarding Allegations Of Sexual Molestation By D S, What has been the response of the Adventist Church?
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post Jan 1 2008, 04:32 PM
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Statement by Linda Shelton's daughter, Alyssa Moore:

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July 7, 2006

This is a formal statement which is long overdue. I did not disclose this information when the events occurred because I did not want to hurt my mother. I did not want to cause trouble with 3 ABN, and I was too embarrassed to talk about it. Now that some time has passed and circumstances have changed I feel the need to share this information. I want to spare others from being exposed to the same treatment that I have experienced.

1) The repeated inappropriate actions from my ex-stepfather, Danny Shelton, occurred in the summer of the year 2000.

2) I had been away at school for some years. I was happy to be returning home to attend a local University.

3) My mother always went to bed rather early. Her bedroom was upstairs and my bedroom was downstairs. Danny started coming into my room getting into my bed and rubbing my back. He seemed to “accidentally” get too low. I told him I did not want a back rub. He ignored me. This happened repeatedly.

4) I began locking my bedroom door every night. Sometimes he would come to the door and knock again and again. I did not answer. He then repeatedly unlocked my bedroom door and
came into my room. He would then get into my bed. I was not comfortable with this but I was so tired I still fell asleep. I awoke sometimes with his hands in inappropriate places. He would say “Oh, I’m sorry. I thought it was your Mom.” He told me not to tell my Mom. I told him to stay out of my room. He still came. I started sleep on the living room couch so that he could not lie beside me.

5) I felt threatened and very uncomfortable with these things, so I made arrangements to move out.

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Alyssa Moore (daughter of Linda Shelton )


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post Jan 1 2008, 04:47 PM
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Approximately a couple of years ago, a notarized copy of the above statement was circulated to Seventh-day Adventist church leaders and General Conference officials.

It has been mentioned previously on this site that there are protocols in place for church dealings with such matters.

Is there any record of responses by the church to the above allegation?

During the past years, church leaders have appeared frequently on 3ABN to report on church missions and activities. Dr. Michael L. Ryan, a Vice President of the Seventh-day Adventist Church can be seen from time to time currently on 3ABN.

In the January, 2008, issue of 3ABN World, Jim Gilley, president of 3ABN, in his editorial titled "I Believe in Miracles", relates the story of recurring miracles accompaning the establishing of 3ABN by Danny Shelton as recorded on tape.

Jim Gilley states, "Recently Danny and I sat in his office and listened to that tape, made 22 years ago. We then recorded 3ABN's 23rd Anniversary program, and we felt God reviving our faith to meet the challenges--just as he did in the early days of this ministry....Danny and I believe, as we all do here at 3ABN, that the greatest days of this ministry are just ahead!...Thanks to you, 3ABN is stronger than ever before..."

Has the General Conference of Seventh-day Adventists done anything to correct this injustice?


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post Jan 1 2008, 05:24 PM
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QUOTE(Artiste @ Jan 1 2008, 05:47 PM) *
....It has been mentioned previously on this site that there are protocols in place for church dealings with such matters.

I just wanted to correct this statement. While it may have been mentioned on this site - I have not been able to find anything in the church manual as to how to "handle" such occurences within the church.



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post Jan 1 2008, 05:32 PM
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QUOTE(PrincessDrRe @ Jan 1 2008, 03:24 PM) *
I just wanted to correct this statement. While it may have been mentioned on this site - I have not been able to find anything in the church manual as to how to "handle" such occurences within the church.

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One additional note to this is that the GC has, in the last few years.... not sure just when.... taken formal positions about what steps to take in cases like this.... and they DO include notifying the law enforcement agencies immediately upon the allegations....

Why haven't the Family Ministries personell been involved in any of the 3abn allegations? I wish I knew. Does anyone have any direct lines to any of them?


The above mention by Watchbird was what I was referring to.


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post Jan 1 2008, 05:44 PM
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The way to handle it on a church level is to bring it to the attention of Danny's local church and ask for it to be considered at a church business meeting.

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post Jan 1 2008, 05:54 PM
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QUOTE(Pickle @ Jan 1 2008, 03:44 PM) *
The way to handle it on a church level is to bring it to the attention of Danny's local church and ask for it to be considered at a church business meeting.

Is Danny's local church closely affilated with 3ABN?


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GC is repsonding just as it is responding to the other issues with 3ABN, they are acting as if it hasnt' happened. They are going to do absolutely nothing about it. I was one also who received this letter a few months before it was posted here. I know myself that it went to ur local ocnference office. GC will do nothing. That alone should have been emough for them to ditance themselves from 3ABN until it was investigated, but they haven't. I don't know why we think we(SDAs) are immune to the type of bad publicity that plagues the RCC.


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I thought there were some previous directives from the GC to distance themselves from 3ABN?

Aren't they posted here in a topic somewhere, or was that only over at Maritime SDA OnLine?


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QUOTE(Artiste @ Jan 1 2008, 05:54 PM) *
Is Danny's local church closely affilated with 3ABN?


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Yes. 3ABN owns the building and land, and many of the members are employed by 3ABN.
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QUOTE(Daryl Fawcett @ Jan 1 2008, 09:17 PM) *
I thought there were some previous directives from the GC to distance themselves from 3ABN?

Aren't they posted here in a topic somewhere, or was that only over at Maritime SDA OnLine?

There was an announcement from the GC a few months ago that stated that those who are employed directly by the GC are not to be involved in any new programing with 3abn. If I recall correctly they mentioned that 3abn's board was working on certain problems, and the announcement expressed confidence that the board would be able to deal with the problems successfully.

That information is here somewhere. And probably on Save3abn as well.
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this ground has been covered before.... several times.... is there something new or something that was missed the other times we discussed this? I am curious...


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How about he moved the church from in town onto 3ABN property, and John Lomacang is the pastor......close enough for ya'?

However, I am with Clay. What is the point? Clearly GC is going to do nothing. I believe the directive was very vague, not really traceable to GC, and made in some remote conference...........somebody correct me if I am wrong.


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Is Danny's local church closely affilated with 3ABN?
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QUOTE(princessdi @ Jan 1 2008, 10:04 PM) *

However, I am with Clay. What is the point? Clearly GC is going to do nothing. I believe the directive ws very vague, not really traceable to GC, and made in some remote conference...........somebody correct me if I am wrong.


I am with both of you. Although I am more than disgusted that there appears to have been no investigation (at any level) into the allegations made in Alyssa's letter, what does further discussion accomplish at this point unless one does so hoping that MAYBE THIS TIME something just might be done about it. Has anyone bothered to ask Alyssa if she wants it discussed yet again if she has declined to pursue legal action?

If Alyssa wants this rehashed in hopes of acheiving a different outcome then someone should contact her to verify that otherwise IMO you only continue to victimize her for reasons that have nothing to do with helping her heal and get on with her life.

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QUOTE(Artiste @ Jan 1 2008, 06:32 PM) *
Watchbird Oct 4, 2006, post #32
The above mention by Watchbird was what I was referring to.
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I know what you were stating Artiste - what I was referring to was the statement about "the church" having actual "rules" as to how to handle sexual abuse/molestation. I have not been able to find such rules/statements in the Church Handbook.
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this ground has been covered before.... several times.... is there something new or something that was missed the other times we discussed this? I am curious...

Nothing new. The man is still on TV. He has not been brought up on charges. He was not "cast out" as we (SDA's) so quickly do unwed mothers.

Nothing. Nay-thang. Not a thang.

Carry on!
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I completed a qualitative study about two years ago where I gained the bylaws/rules/handbook instructions of Catholicism, United Methodist, and lastly SDA as to what should be done in in the respected churches. I was not able to find actual statements directed at what should be done within the SDA church if it is discovered that a member is sexually abused/molested or is sexually abusing/molesting.

I may be wrong - but the Pastor that I interviewed got the Church Handbook out and tried to find the section. He could not.

As for the Catholic and United Methodist churches - they had an entire section of their bylaws/rules/handbook dedicated to the topic of sexual abuse/molestation.


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PrincessDrRe; September, 2007

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