Danny Shelton Marries....again, 3abn Options

[PrincessDrRe]

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[summertime]

Keep in mind 3ABN is very much a business. This type of contract is a standard business practice for employees, partners, co-owners, regardless of the relationship when they are severed from the company. You want the money? Got to keep you mouth shut for a period of time and can’t sue us. Severance agreements for executives are usually negotiated upon initial employment or and some other time afterward. We can’t say it is fair or not, it is what Linda agreed to. Having spent some time in corporate compensation, I say she got a pretty good deal. It is unheard of for someone to post their severance agreement on a public Internet site. Sounds like Linda are soliciting for a big pity party.

3ABN is supposed to be a non-profit organization. Somebody gave some money somewhere to pay $50,000.00 peryear to a vice president and I heard even more to the vice president. The penniless carpenter has become rich from somewhere--huge homes, group of expensive horses, jet powered plane at his service for work and play alike. Somewhere the money will be provided to feed, clothe and educate the children. ---Disneyland honeymoons were paid from somewhere---was it all paid by one person's $50,000 salary at this time and age?. Remember that Linda pays a lot of taxes and her income tax will show only herself as a dependent, unless her son was so ill that he had to depend on his Mom for help. Should Linda have stayed on the job when her son was dying? Even the government gives paid leave for family emergencies. Danny had known his new wife since she was 12 or 13 (he says) and he said that he knew her parents also, but I have not seen or heard their name given by the man she married. Was Danny counseling her during her problems with her first 2 husbands?. There are a lot of unanswered questions, but I hope that all the older SDA members will see the need for their money elsewhere until this whole thing is straightened out.
Linda's and Danny's personal belongings have not been settled, as far as the contract reads or by what Linda said on her website. Why the hurry to marry? This whole thing must be very hard on Brandi unless she just doesn't open her eyes.
Maybe the settlement would have not been so bad if it had been given generously and without restraints. But to tape a ladies mouth shut for 2 years while the husband has no bounderies on himself is absurd.

[Prisca]

God the Father and God the Son and God the Holy Spirit make up the trinity in heaven and on earth. God the Father gave His Son to die for us, God the Son gave His life for the people He loves, and the Holy Spirit was left to be our Comforter until Jesus comes again. The Bible tells us that a husband should love his wife in the way that God loves us and gave Himself for us. How can a man set about to force his wife to leave and then make it look like she has left God? From things that I have read from other forums and books, spiritual adultry is only adultry between God and man when he/she chooses to leave His church. A husband should be the head of his household, but he also must be willing to lay down his life to protect her---and his family. Never will he force her to leave and then sign legal papers that make it illegal for the whole story to be told. God wants us to spread the whole story of His creation, and the last 6000+ years have been an open book--the Bible. WHen the creation and story of the raising of a station which is surely for finishing the work of God is all kept a legal secret, then we should be wondering what the rest of the story is all about.
Loopholes will never save our souls. Only Jesus can do that and He has no loopholes.

Well said....I agree with you, however, I can understand the meticulous lengths to which they went to 'shush' her in order to save their perceived treasure. If the story were told, it would go back and forth with such force that much might be destroyed. Some would understand his point of view while others would take Linda's side. Remember Jimmy Swaggart? For example, how many of us follow the counsel of the Orthodox SDAs and refrain from contact with the opposite sex? That means no male hairdressers, no mixed swimming, no male doctors, dentists, anything. They can't come and repair anything in your home and definitely they can NOT counsel you on any subject. IF it is done, it must be done in the presence of the husband and with his consent.

[sister]

I'm confused. Ok, Re' was just basically saying, like father, like daughter. But who got rebaptised before getting married, Danny or Melody? BTW, when exactly did Brandy join the church/get baptised?

This might bring some daylight into things:

Danny Shelton had no grounds, Biblically, to divorce Linda and remarry in the SDA church. But he did. Brandi was baptised at the same time as Melody's daughter---Fall 2005 3ABN Campmeeting.

Melody Shelton Mundall Firestone had no grounds, Biblically, to divorce, remarry and divorce again her first husband (which makes him her first and second husband and the father of 4 of her children) and marry Mr. Firestone in the SDA church. Before she married Mr. Firestone, she was carrying his child. Both are SDA. After they married they were rebaptised. By the way C. A. Murry, who should have known better, preformed the ceremony.

[Prisca]

This might bring some daylight into things:

Danny Shelton had no grounds, Biblically, to divorce Linda and remarry in the SDA church. But he did. Brandi was baptised at the same time as Melody's daughter---Fall 2005 3ABN Campmeeting.

Melody Shelton Mundall Firestone had no grounds, Biblically, to divorce, remarry and divorce again her first husband (which makes him her first and second husband and the father of 4 of her children) and marry Mr. Firestone in the SDA church. Before she married Mr. Firestone, she was carrying his child. Both are SDA. After they married they were rebaptised. By the way C. A. Murry, who should have known better, preformed the ceremony.

Biblical grounds...see what I mean? The discussion of whether they should or shouldn't divorce and the issues surround what a Biblical divorce is would wreck the strongest ship. And C.A. could say 'no' to his boss? Is it a touch of the Catholic to deny people a marriage? We baptize them time after time to 'get the numbers'.

Priscilla

[princessdi]

Priscilla, only somebody with something to hide go to those lengths to keep somebody quiet. If truth is on your side, you don't have worry about how many sides there are. Like Jimmy Swaggart, this story is as plain as the nose on your face, there were no two sides to that story. Jimmy talked trashed about Jim Baker, left his pulpit, and went directly to get his freak on with a local "cheap"prostitute. The only thing missing is the answer to questions like:

Why Danny felt the rush to get a quickie divorce in Guam?
If she ws indeed unfaithful to him, all he had to do was prove it. But then again he never said she was phsically unfaithful or even emotionally. Just that she spent too much time on the phone with a man(more than 15 mins).

Why he felt is necessary to "pay" Linda for her silence while cheating her out of her rightful benefits of the ministry/busines she helped to build?
I know of a lady has started watching 3ABN post Linda, and she says she never has heard Danny mention a wife besides the first one who died. This is besides having all the programs with her on them retaped directly after their split.

Why the quickie wedding to Brandi? The girl is at the studio and not even in a decent wedding dress, married by someone on the 3ABN pastorial staff.

Well said....I agree with you, however, I can understand the meticulous lengths to which they went to 'shush' her in order to save their perceived treasure. If the story were told, it would go back and forth with such force that much might be destroyed. Some would understand his point of view while others would take Linda's side. Remember Jimmy Swaggart? For example, how many of us follow the counsel of the Orthodox SDAs and refrain from contact with the opposite sex? That means no male hairdressers, no mixed swimming, no male doctors, dentists, anything. They can't come and repair anything in your home and definitely they can NOT counsel you on any subject. IF it is done, it must be done in the presence of the husband and with his consent.

[summertime]

Well said....I agree with you, however, I can understand the meticulous lengths to which they went to 'shush' her in order to save their perceived treasure. If the story were told, it would go back and forth with such force that much might be destroyed. Some would understand his point of view while others would take Linda's side. Remember Jimmy Swaggart? For example, how many of us follow the counsel of the Orthodox SDAs and refrain from contact with the opposite sex? That means no male hairdressers, no mixed swimming, no male doctors, dentists, anything. They can't come and repair anything in your home and definitely they can NOT counsel you on any subject. IF it is done, it must be done in the presence of the husband and with his consent.

Prisca, I can well understand what you are saying except for one thing---why should they shush her? No one shushed him---Even the head of the Board came on board to victimize Linda on open TV . They butchered her by many mailings, on internet and on open sattelite. They might as well have taped her mouth shut and given Danny a blowhorn. No one wants to hurt the church but are there dishonest prophets among us? Just remember "By their fruits you shall know them." Prisca, who or what was their perceived treasure? Danny--or 3ABN?---And what was his point of view?

[Prisca]

Prisca, I can well understand what you are saying except for one thing---why should they shush her? No one shushed him---Even the head of the Board came on board to victimize Linda on open TV . They butchered her by many mailings, on internet and on open sattelite. They might as well have taped her mouth shut and given Danny a blowhorn. No one wants to hurt the church but are there dishonest prophets among us? Just remember "By their fruits you shall know them." Prisca, who or what was their perceived treasure? Danny--or 3ABN?---And what was his point of view?

3ABN is considered the product of a vision from straight God to Danny. That is the treasure. How many times have we heard that testimony when 3ABN is 'on the road'? What is his view on women? Have you seen the one's that get the attention? How do they behave toward him... He comes from a stern background of working class people...as he says so often. Remember the story of the brother who wanted to play the piano but the mother didn't want him to so she put the piano on the porch? Tough move, until she finally relented when he sat outside with gloves on playing the thing in the dead of winter? Authority is correct, always correct unless it tells you otherwise. Now nothing must stand in the way of the carrying out of that 'vision'. To be right...that is a privilege, isn't it?

Priscilla

[sister]

3ABN is considered the product of a vision from straight God to Danny. That is the treasure. How many times have we heard that testimony when 3ABN is 'on the road'? What is his view on women? Have you seen the one's that get the attention? How do they behave toward him... He comes from a stern background of working class people...as he says so often. Remember the story of the brother who wanted to play the piano but the mother didn't want him to so she put the piano on the porch? Tough move, until she finally relented when he sat outside with gloves on playing the thing in the dead of winter? Authority is correct, always correct unless it tells you otherwise. Now nothing must stand in the way of the carrying out of that 'vision'. To be right...that is a privilege, isn't it?

Priscilla

Danny Shelton was not the first one to receive that vision, there were at least 2 others that he knows of and has spoken of that received it before him. One of them went so far as doing the paperwork, it was dated a few years earlier, and the name for the project...Three Angels Broadcasting Network.

Being called by God to do a special work is not a once called, always called situation. One of the examples we have is Saul, the first king of Isreal. When he turned away from God and started following his own way, God called another to take his place. But the transfer of position did not happen right away. God allowed Saul to follow his own path of corruption, until it was evident what he had become. Only after many years of opportunities for repentence, did Saul finally seal his own fate. Than David became king of Isreal.

Over the years Danny has had opportunities to turn away from the path that has finally led to what is now beginning to be revealed.

Danny, himself, has publically said that he has already fulfilled the vision that the Lord gave him. Perhaps it is time that he steps aside, before too much is revealed and he is removed from his position in shame.

This post has been edited by sister: Apr 30 2006, 06:58 PM

[sister]

As long as we are on the topic of the miracle story, that Danny goes around telling, even that is not what we have been lead to believe:

Before 3ABN started, Danny met with the Steensons when they were charismatic pastors and they offered to put on paper that they were donating around $100,000.00 worth of television equipment to him. That was the first "miracle" story that started the money rolling in. No equipment was ever donated by the Steensons, other than an SM-58 microphone that didn't work. To this day that story is told as the miracle that started 3ABN, but it is false. The first camera equipment at 3ABN came from Joe Crews at Amazing Facts and was purchased on a barter deal for air time.

It is one thing being called by God and surrender self and allowing God to use us for his purposes. It is quite another "creating miracles" ourselves.

Now 22 years later, Hal Steenson is in the 3ABN pastoral department and Molly Steenson is the general manager of 3ABN and a member of the board. The only one above Molly in the chain of command at 3ABN is Danny Shelton. After Molly Steenson became a SDA she said that the reason she became an Adventist was not because of the Sabbath or Sister White, but because 3ABN is THE cutting edge ministry. She was Danny's secretary, his right hand, for a number of years before she made this choice to become an Adventist.

Interesting, the more you know of the story...

[Panama_Pete]

For example, how many of us follow the counsel of the Orthodox SDAs and refrain from contact with the opposite sex? That means no male hairdressers, no mixed swimming, no male doctors, dentists, anything. They can't come and repair anything in your home and definitely they can NOT counsel you on any subject. IF it is done, it must be done in the presence of the husband and with his consent.

http://www.thewaterpage.com/religion_living_water.htm

The Woman of Samaria at the Well (John 4:27)

"And upon this came His disciples, and marvelled that He talked with the woman: yet no man said, "What seekest thou?" or, "Why talkest thou with her?"

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So, it appears that Jesus talked to the opposite sex, alone, at times. Just an observation.

[Prisca]

[quote name='Panama_Pete' post='125500' date='Apr 6 2006, 02:35 AM']
http://www.thewaterpage.com/religion_living_water.htm

The Woman of Samaria at the Well (John 4:27)

"And upon this came His disciples, and marvelled that He talked with the woman: yet no man said, "What seekest thou?" or, "Why talkest thou with her?"

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So, it appears that Jesus talked to the opposite sex, alone, at times. Just an observation.
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I hear you, not only was he alone but she was a woman of ill-repute! but in Orthodox SDAism, it is not permitted. Even as the ladies sit separately in church in the Jewish Orthodoxy.

Sister,

[quote name='sister' date='Apr 6 2006, 01:39 AM' post='125492']
Danny Shelton was not the first one to receive that vision, there were at least 2 others that he knows of and has spoken of that received it before him. One of them went so far as doing the paperwork, it was dated a few years earlier, and the name for the project...Three Angels Broadcasting Network.

I remember an African American fellow who sang across the US trying to raise money to start the 3ABN network. I assumed it was for Danny Shelton's program.

Summertime:
[quote name='summertime' date='Apr 6 2006, 12:12 AM' post='125478']
Prisca, I can well understand what you are saying except for one thing---why should they shush her?

I was trying to say that the view of women could have an even greater reason for shushng than fear of hearing 'her side'. He is the man. Now, you know you've met people like this. I remember one girl who was animated in her conversation with friends and church members. When her husband came into the room, the silence was deafening. She would almost, if not, stop talking mid-word!

DI,

[quote name='princessdi' date='Apr 5 2006, 11:23 PM' post='125476']
Priscilla, only somebody with something to hide go to those lengths to keep somebody quiet. If truth is on your side, you don't have worry about how many sides there are.

Supposedly he is trying to say that he isn't really telling allll he knows, that what he did say was 'kind'. Oh, Di, I have found that sometimes the person with the 'truth' is the one who is least believed!


Why he felt is necessary to "pay" Linda for her silence while cheating her out of her rightful benefits of the ministry/busines she helped to build?

He probably would say that he gave her, her 'share' and that the money wasn't for silence..that was just a bonus. See? It's all in the words and the angle...aaah, perspective.

Summertime:

[quote name='summertime' post='125472' date='Apr 5 2006, 10:53 PM']
3ABN is supposed to be a non-profit organization. Somebody gave some money somewhere to pay $50,000.00 peryear to a vice president and I heard even more to the vice president. The penniless carpenter has become rich from somewhere--huge homes, group of expensive horses, jet powered plane at his service for work and play alike. Somewhere the money will be provided to feed, clothe and educate the children. ---Disneyland honeymoons were paid from somewhere---was it all paid by one person's $50,000 salary at this time and age?. Remember that Linda pays a lot of taxes and her income tax will show only herself as a dependent, unless her son was so ill that he had to depend on his Mom for help. Should Linda have stayed on the job when her son was dying? Even the government gives paid leave for family emergencies. [/quote]

Was her son dying? Again I ask, what was Danny's relationship to the son. What did he demand Linda's relationship to her son. That is whole 'nother can of worms for blended families. Now he has children he can control, perhaps? I have an urge to sing...Summertime...and the livin' is EEEEEZZZ... When I saw many similarities in our (SDA) as in others, I began to give less, to be sure. I just couldn't understand why the money was used in such frivilous ways...trips, etc. Being assured over and over that no one 'gets a salary' just wasn't enough for me. I couldn't go to Europe and tape 'on the scene' anything. Not even a postcard. Anyway. Back in Berrien Springs one couple on Grove Street gave their entire retirement package so that the down link could be purchased for the town. But, remember the blessings of giving are just that. Sure, we are to be responsible givers, but if we feel that the Lord can use the ministry...and He has brought many people with testimonies (the product) in 'the truth' as a result of 3ABN...for some people, that is all they really want to know.

Priscilla

This post has been edited by Prisca: Apr 6 2006, 07:56 AM

[simplysaved]

I'm questioning the legality and enforceability of #'s 6 & 7.

While I am not an attorney....as a previous Admin, it is similiar to what has been given to other employees at secular companies and sometimes private parties...

[Clay]

While I am not an attorney....as a previous Admin, it is similiar to what has been given to other employees at secular companies and sometimes private parties...

Linda was more than just an employee.... she was also the wife...

[simplysaved]

Linda was more than just an employee.... she was also the wife...

But IF as the record from Danny himself on 3ABN is concerned, THE BOARD terminated her...it would not matter that she was the wife...that has happened before...