We Should Start A B.a.n., B.A.N = Black Adventist Network Options

[TrulyBlessedOne]

With all the talk about 3ABN lately. I think that we need to stop complaining and come together to offer an alternative. Given the fact that there are a number of black churches with television ministries and a number of Black SDA artists on the rise, I believe that it could be done with the proper planning and support. It could cater to the Black experience, while presenting the unique SDA message.

Plus, if set-up properly and not done in the spirit of exclusiveness, we could get the support of many non-Adventists who enjoy our ministries. If properly pitched, it could be carried on Sky Angel and reach a massive audience. Once the audience grows, it could be pitched to cable systems in areas like Huntsville who have high concentrations of BSDA's.

I am seriously thinking about this thing. Who is with me?

Pastor J

[calvin]

Got any money?

[awesumtenor]

Got any money?

There, my brother, is where the rubber meets the road, as J. Vernon McGee would say...


In His service,
Mr. J

[beartrap]

The cost could be less than one might think. As Pastor J said, there are many black churches already producing their services, I believe Oakwood has some production facilities, and with the programs from outside the church, an initial investment in studios is probably not neccessary. Servers for master control, personell, satellite fees, and teleport usage (until a proprietary uplink could be established) should constitute the major startup expenses. (Of course this is all theoretical. There are always complications and surprises.)

[Clay]

a major problem.... folks will not work together...

[beartrap]

Clay is a pragmatic realist. Like I said, complications.

[calvin]

a major problem.... folks will not work together...

Oh, don’t be so cynical Clay. It could work; I think there would be a market for it. 3ABN was always too conservative for most Black folks anyway. The Black work continues to grow, anybody pay attention to how Black and Brown General Conference was last year. About 25,000 of yall will be descending on Atlanta this weekend.

TBO, try putting together a comprehensive business plan and float it around to some investors. That is where I would start.

[Clay]

Oh, don’t be so cynical Clay. It could work; I think there would be a market for it. 3ABN was always too conservative for most Black folks anyway. The Black work continues to grow, anybody pay attention to how Black and Brown General Conference was last year. About 25,000 of yall will be descending on Atlanta this weekend.

TBO, try putting together a comprehensive business plan and float it around to some investors. That is where I would start.

Calvin I try not to, however I am watching the area in churches in Huntsville go back and forth about building a new school for the kids here... The academy is the same building that my wife attended 20+ years ago... they were talking about building a new school when she attended... so if 6 or 7 black churches in one city can't come to some agreement and build a church... then....

[Zephyr]

With all the talk about 3ABN lately. I think that we need to stop complaining and come together to offer an alternative. Given the fact that there are a number of black churches with television ministries and a number of Black SDA artists on the rise, I believe that it could be done with the proper planning and support. It could cater to the Black experience, while presenting the unique SDA message.

Plus, if set-up properly and not done in the spirit of exclusiveness, we could get the support of many non-Adventists who enjoy our ministries. If properly pitched, it could be carried on Sky Angel and reach a massive audience. Once the audience grows, it could be pitched to cable systems in areas like Huntsville who have high concentrations of BSDA's.

I am seriously thinking about this thing. Who is with me?

Pastor J

If BAN can operate on all talk, no money and shoddy work and nepotism then it will become the number 1 TV network. To be truthful that's about all these SDA kneegrows have to offer.

[beartrap]

Zephyr, I disagree. Several years ago I was in New York City trying to enthuse the Adventists into becoming active on behalf of 3ABN and nothing happened until I went to the black churches and the Northeastern Conference. They banded together enthusiastically in financial support and actual work and accomplished a lot. I was very impressed by how well those churches worked together on our behalf. C.A. Murray was the Communications Director at Northeastern, and I was so impressed with his skill and talent that I wrote memos and met with the leadership at 3ABN in a dilligent effort to get him employed there and I believe he has been a tremendous asset to that organization since being hired. The black Adventist community has some very qualified leaders for a television network, and I believe it can and should be done.

[Zephyr]

Beartrap don't get me wrong. "We" can campaign, make noise and make a big to do. That is why "we" photocopied and sent out millions of petitions on behalf of 3ABN. Reuben was very instrumental in the Northeastern and greater NY areas.

Campaigning is great...delivering on quality, efficiency and providing a corruptiowords free working environment is a different matter...Y'all had a chance to do your thang with NET 2004 and you blew it big time. The word went out--these n... can shake their b...but they can't shake the money tree.

I wonder what CA is saying as the house of cards looks as if it is crumbling... CA is a top-notch pastor--one of the best and he left the pastoral ministry of the church to become a shill and flack for Danny and 3ABN.

This post has been edited by Zephyr: Apr 21 2006, 09:32 AM

[Clay]

Beartrap don't get me wrong. "We" can campaign, make noise and make a big to do. That is why "we" photocopied and sent out millions of petitions on behalf of 3ABN. Reuben was very instrumental in the Northeastern and greater NY areas.

Campaigning is great...delivering on quality, efficiency and providing a corruptiowords free working environment is a different matter...Y'all had a chance to do your thang with NET 2004 and you blew it big time. The word went out--these n... can shake their b...but they can't shake the money tree.

I wonder what CA is saying as the house of cards looks as if it is crumbling... CA is a top-notch pastor--one of the best and he left the pastoral ministry of the church to become a shill and flack for Danny and 3ABN.

interesting.... you think that was the perception? That black folks can entertain but not raise money?

[Guest_silsbee_bee_*]

It would be hard, not impossible, but not easy, to get and keep a television network like that going. IMO 3ABN has done a very good job of including preachers and artists from diverse backgrounds into their network ministry. I've been watching 3abn for awhile, and I've seen more black sda preachers there than I have anywhere else. I'm talking about scores of different preachers from the 4 corners of the country and the world. I've seen lots of asian and latino preachers also, and lots of culturally diverse singers and artists. Yet with all that they are criticized as being too white and conservative. The same could happen if a black adventist tv netwrk came into being. To keep such a network on the air would cost something like $300,000 a month. The more diverse the programming the more money that could come in.

DB

[PrincessDrRe]

With all the talk about 3ABN lately. I think that we need to stop complaining and come together to offer an alternative. Given the fact that there are a number of black churches with television ministries and a number of Black SDA artists on the rise, I believe that it could be done with the proper planning and support. It could cater to the Black experience, while presenting the unique SDA message.

Plus, if set-up properly and not done in the spirit of exclusiveness, we could get the support of many non-Adventists who enjoy our ministries. If properly pitched, it could be carried on Sky Angel and reach a massive audience. Once the audience grows, it could be pitched to cable systems in areas like Huntsville who have high concentrations of BSDA's.

I am seriously thinking about this thing. Who is with me?

Pastor J

I would love it. Can I be the resident Therapist?

[beartrap]

Once again, I thoroughly disagree. Yes, in NY the petitions moved quickly, Ruben Carr became very prolific in his marketing, 3ABN grew, and the Atlantic Union ended up with a production truck. Yes, CA is a wonderful pastor, and he is also a great TV producer.

Of course BAN would be difficult to start and run, but I believe that with the right partnerships, some agressive mover and shakers, and LOTS of elbow grease, it is very possible. I agree with whoever said that a business plan should be formulated and passed around. Besides the black SDA, there are other people in the SDA denomination who I believe would contribute significantly if they saw something realistic with a good foundation to it.