 What Part Do You Play?, Does God really expect 100% truth? |
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 Jan 19 2007, 06:46 PM
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I agree, this is the best policy. We should just let people get on with their lives, I mean just look at Timothy McVey, what foolishness locking him up and putting him to death for his crimes. And those Catholic priests accused of molesting little kids? Just forgive them, forget them and let them live out their lives the way they want to. And what a shame that we imprisoned James Earl Ray. Lets just be nice to people and let God judge them.
Richard QUOTE(ArchangelOne @ Jan 19 2007, 03:00 PM) [snapback]171177[/snapback] Can't we all just forgive and forget and let live. The final judge is God, and I do not presume to be God!! Neither should any of you! This post has been edited by Richard Sherwin: Jan 19 2007, 06:48 PM |
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Jan 19 2007, 06:56 PM
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QUOTE(Bystander @ Jan 19 2007, 03:30 PM) [snapback]171198[/snapback] Sister, it's simple. The reason I said pretend investigation is because it is being done by 2 pretend investigators. Bob Pickle and Gailon Joy. Now everything you just said is again saying that I am Danny Shelton or his spokesperson. I AM NOT AS I HAVE STATED IN ANOTHER THREAD. Again, Calvin, this shows what a one sided administrator you are not to warn sister on this identification game. By her quote that I have 1 grown daughter and referring to "your grandbabies" She is PLAINLY trying to identify me to the world as Danny Shelton. That is bad enough but, SHE IS WRONG. So once again you are planting false seeds of destruction. Shame on you This is Calvin's place he can do what he wishes... what makes you think we will always be fair? as for the other, its clear you are a Danny apologist....... tiresome..... -------------------- "you are as sick as your secrets...." -quote from Celebrity Rehab-
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Jan 19 2007, 09:32 PM
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I remember several years ago when a postal worker from W. Frankfort was caught with his 'hand in the cookie jar' so to speak. He was stealing 3ABN's mail for the cash money inside. A local television station came out to interview Dan about the incident and asked him what he would like to see as an outcome - how he would be satisfied. Those of you who remember the story know that Dan's answer was simply that he wanted justice (As in - justice under man's law - arrested, convicted, etc.) to be served.
Now let's stop and think about this... We have a man stealing from ministry - using it for personal gain. Man gets caught. Owner wants justice. Years later Owner uses ministry for personal gain. Owner gets caught. Owner and supporters want to ignore it. We could argue this fact by saying that one man was from the ministry and therefore called by God, therefore his actions must be sanctioned, right? We could say that, but it would just be wrong. Oh, oh, oh so wrong. This thread is entitled "What part do you play?" I answer, you're either the one giving, or the one taking. You can't be both.  -------------------- "The pure and simple truth is rarely pure and never simple."
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Jan 19 2007, 10:44 PM
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QUOTE(husbandoftheyear @ Jan 19 2007, 09:32 PM) [snapback]171272[/snapback] I remember several years ago when a postal worker from W. Frankfort was caught with his 'hand in the cookie jar' so to speak. He was stealing 3ABN's mail for the cash money inside. A local television station came out to interview Dan about the incident and asked him what he would like to see as an outcome - how he would be satisfied. Those of you who remember the story know that Dan's answer was simply that he wanted justice (As in - justice under man's law - arrested, convicted, etc.) to be served. Now let's stop and think about this... We have a man stealing from ministry - using it for personal gain. Man gets caught. Owner wants justice. Years later Owner uses ministry for personal gain. Owner gets caught. Owner and supporters want to ignore it. We could argue this fact by saying that one man was from the ministry and therefore called by God, therefore his actions must be sanctioned, right? We could say that, but it would just be wrong. Oh, oh, oh so wrong. This thread is entitled "What part do you play?" I answer, you're either the one giving, or the one taking. You can't be both. Very good point, HOTY! I had forgotten all about that. 
-------------------- Duane Clem
It's not about religion, it's about a relationship. Gems of Wisdom "Lisa and Ronda are not Danny's biological father." -- wwjd, 2/8/07 "Watchbird, The facts prove the above lie." -- wwjd, 2/13/07 "Another lie that can be proven..." -- Bystander, 3/18/07 "The thing about lies is they can be proven." -- Aletheia, 3/22/07 "I am not here to argue" -- Aletheia, 4/24/07 "She didn't move to 3ABN, she moved to Illinois" -- Aletheia, 4/25/07 "Hope is liberal. 3abn is not." -- steffan, 6/9/07 "Danny Shelton does not decide what goes on the air, period." -- appletree, 8/22/07 http://www.save-3abn.com/ http://www.investigating3abn.info/ http://rescue3abn.blog.com/ http://www.abundantrest.org/?p=74 http://abundantrest.org/2007/02/18/3abn-sa...ons-retirement/ http://anewsabbathschool.blogspot.com/2006...ain-wrecks.html http://cafesda.blogspot.com/2006/08/atoday...bn-news_21.html http://www.atoday.com/email/2007/02/12/ http://spectrummagazine.typepad.com/the_sp...eans_and_e.html |
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Jan 19 2007, 11:40 PM
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QUOTE(ex3ABNemployee @ Jan 19 2007, 11:44 PM) [snapback]171295[/snapback] Very good point, HOTY! I had forgotten all about that. Do you remember what happened to the guy? -------------------- "The pure and simple truth is rarely pure and never simple."
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Jan 20 2007, 12:16 AM
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QUOTE(husbandoftheyear @ Jan 19 2007, 09:40 PM) [snapback]171307[/snapback] Do you remember what happened to the guy? tell us 
-------------------- Here's the thing - "...if you pull "folks" into a fight you don't know what "weapon" they will bring." PrincessDrRe "A man who digs a pit for others to fall into, will end up falling into it himself. And if a man rolls a stone on someone, the stone will roll back on him". Said Solomon the wise, Proverbs 26:27 "No man can follow Christ and go astray." William H.P. Faunce "If I could hear Christ praying for me in the next room, I would not fear a million enemies. Yet distance makes no difference. He is praying for me." Robert M. McCheyne Click here for Linda Shelton's newly updated website |
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Jan 20 2007, 12:54 AM
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QUOTE(sonshineonme @ Jan 20 2007, 01:16 AM) [snapback]171312[/snapback] tell us That really was a question. I don't remember the outcome... -------------------- "The pure and simple truth is rarely pure and never simple."
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Jan 20 2007, 12:58 AM
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QUOTE(husbandoftheyear @ Jan 19 2007, 10:54 PM) [snapback]171313[/snapback] That really was a question. I don't remember the outcome... opps!  well, someone must recall? -------------------- Here's the thing - "...if you pull "folks" into a fight you don't know what "weapon" they will bring." PrincessDrRe "A man who digs a pit for others to fall into, will end up falling into it himself. And if a man rolls a stone on someone, the stone will roll back on him". Said Solomon the wise, Proverbs 26:27 "No man can follow Christ and go astray." William H.P. Faunce "If I could hear Christ praying for me in the next room, I would not fear a million enemies. Yet distance makes no difference. He is praying for me." Robert M. McCheyne Click here for Linda Shelton's newly updated website |
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Jan 20 2007, 01:31 AM
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QUOTE(husbandoftheyear @ Jan 19 2007, 11:40 PM) [snapback]171307[/snapback] Do you remember what happened to the guy? Actually, no. I was thinking he got some jail time, but I can't be sure about it. I'll do a little "research." We actually caught the same guy stealing from our store about 6 months before that happened. He ditched the item before the police got there, so we couldn't prosecute. Once he knew he was off the hook, he got mouthy with me and said, "I'll never come in this store again!" I just looked at him and said, "You got that right!" -------------------- Duane Clem
It's not about religion, it's about a relationship. Gems of Wisdom "Lisa and Ronda are not Danny's biological father." -- wwjd, 2/8/07 "Watchbird, The facts prove the above lie." -- wwjd, 2/13/07 "Another lie that can be proven..." -- Bystander, 3/18/07 "The thing about lies is they can be proven." -- Aletheia, 3/22/07 "I am not here to argue" -- Aletheia, 4/24/07 "She didn't move to 3ABN, she moved to Illinois" -- Aletheia, 4/25/07 "Hope is liberal. 3abn is not." -- steffan, 6/9/07 "Danny Shelton does not decide what goes on the air, period." -- appletree, 8/22/07 http://www.save-3abn.com/ http://www.investigating3abn.info/ http://rescue3abn.blog.com/ http://www.abundantrest.org/?p=74 http://abundantrest.org/2007/02/18/3abn-sa...ons-retirement/ http://anewsabbathschool.blogspot.com/2006...ain-wrecks.html http://cafesda.blogspot.com/2006/08/atoday...bn-news_21.html http://www.atoday.com/email/2007/02/12/ http://spectrummagazine.typepad.com/the_sp...eans_and_e.html |
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Jan 20 2007, 12:40 PM
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QUOTE(ArchangelOne @ Jan 19 2007, 04:00 PM) [snapback]171177[/snapback] Can't we all just forgive and forget and let live. The final judge is God, and I do not presume to be God!! Neither should any of you! QUOTE(Bystander @ Jan 19 2007, 04:30 PM) [snapback]171182[/snapback] Archangelone, you must have truly been sent from heaven Thank you  I have said it before on this board. I have no embarrassment about it. I have been molested as a child. I have went to the therapy sessions and delt with my shame, turmoil, and anger. I have finally forgiven and moved on. Now. How about you "sacrificing" your child, grandchild, niece or nephew - so we can just "forgive and forget and let live..." Yeah.... I thought so. You wouldn't let your child be sacrificed...but you want to sacrifice others?  HYP-O-CRIT!  -------------------- *"Some folks use their ignorance like a umbrella. It covers everything, they perodically take it out from time to time, but it never is too far away from them."*
PrincessDrRe; March, 2007 ~"Blood = Meat, Face = Meat, Internal "Organs" = Meat - you can try to make it cuter; but it's still meat...."~ PrincessDrRe; September, 2007 *(NOTE: Any advice given by Re' Silvey, MSW is not to be taken as medical/mental health advice. Although trained to be a counselor, currently employed as a therapist, and currently pursuing her PhD in Counseling Psychology (ABD/I) - she is not your assigned therapist. Please consult a mental health professional of your choice for a face-to-face consultation.)* |
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Jan 21 2007, 04:33 PM
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QUOTE(husbandoftheyear @ Jan 19 2007, 09:40 PM) [snapback]171307[/snapback] Do you remember what happened to the guy? Well, I have the "rest of the story" on this, if anyone is interested. This is accurate as I have it from a credible source (yes, they do exist!!  ). Here's what I was told by my friend.  "DS went to the postal inspector and begged him not to investigate, they wanted to be forgiving, did not want a lot of publicity, etc. The truth is that they were also going to check the books at 3abn, for part of the investigation. See how much money would be missing from the donations, etc. Truth be known, there is/was/are 3abn employees who like to "open" the mail, screen it before the monies are sent to the treasurers office..... Okay I think you get the picture! So the postal inspector dropped the investigation at ds request." -------------------- Here's the thing - "...if you pull "folks" into a fight you don't know what "weapon" they will bring." PrincessDrRe "A man who digs a pit for others to fall into, will end up falling into it himself. And if a man rolls a stone on someone, the stone will roll back on him". Said Solomon the wise, Proverbs 26:27 "No man can follow Christ and go astray." William H.P. Faunce "If I could hear Christ praying for me in the next room, I would not fear a million enemies. Yet distance makes no difference. He is praying for me." Robert M. McCheyne Click here for Linda Shelton's newly updated website |
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Jan 21 2007, 06:29 PM
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Umph!
-------------------- *"Some folks use their ignorance like a umbrella. It covers everything, they perodically take it out from time to time, but it never is too far away from them."*
PrincessDrRe; March, 2007 ~"Blood = Meat, Face = Meat, Internal "Organs" = Meat - you can try to make it cuter; but it's still meat...."~ PrincessDrRe; September, 2007 *(NOTE: Any advice given by Re' Silvey, MSW is not to be taken as medical/mental health advice. Although trained to be a counselor, currently employed as a therapist, and currently pursuing her PhD in Counseling Psychology (ABD/I) - she is not your assigned therapist. Please consult a mental health professional of your choice for a face-to-face consultation.)* |
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Jan 21 2007, 06:42 PM
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QUOTE(sonshineonme @ Jan 21 2007, 04:33 PM) [snapback]171535[/snapback] Well, I have the "rest of the story" on this, if anyone is interested. This is accurate as I have it from a credible source (yes, they do exist!! ). Here's what I was told by my friend. "DS went to the postal inspector and begged him not to investigate, they wanted to be forgiving, did not want a lot of publicity, etc. The truth is that they were also going to check the books at 3abn, for part of the investigation. See how much money would be missing from the donations, etc. Truth be known, there is/was/are 3abn employees who like to "open" the mail, screen it before the monies are sent to the treasurers office..... Okay I think you get the picture! So the postal inspector dropped the investigation at ds request." I hope they (3ABN) don't do it that way anymore... I don't trust anybody enough to send cash through the mail... |
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Jan 21 2007, 07:05 PM
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QUOTE(sonshineonme @ Jan 21 2007, 05:33 PM) [snapback]171535[/snapback] Well, I have the "rest of the story" on this, if anyone is interested. This is accurate as I have it from a credible source (yes, they do exist!! ). Here's what I was told by my friend. "DS went to the postal inspector and begged him not to investigate, they wanted to be forgiving, did not want a lot of publicity, etc. The truth is that they were also going to check the books at 3abn, for part of the investigation. See how much money would be missing from the donations, etc. Truth be known, there is/was/are 3abn employees who like to "open" the mail, screen it before the monies are sent to the treasurers office..... Okay I think you get the picture! So the postal inspector dropped the investigation at ds request." I think one can find a little more detail than this in the "Unauthorized History" threads that are pinned at the top. |
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Jan 21 2007, 08:23 PM
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QUOTE(Snoopy @ Jan 21 2007, 07:42 PM) [snapback]171560[/snapback] I hope they (3ABN) don't do it that way anymore... I don't trust anybody enough to send cash through the mail... There is always some older person that will send in cash... -------------------- "The pure and simple truth is rarely pure and never simple."
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