Class Action Suit, by victims of Dan's harassment Options

[inga]

Since Dan Shelton is resorting to the use of law suits to silence his opposition, perhaps it's time that some of his victims got together to sue him and 3ABN for the damage done to them.

While I am not in favor of using the law to sue brothers and sisters in Christ, I am in favor of stopping a pattern of abuse. I believe that is the right thing to do, even though it may be difficult and bothersome. Some folks who have been thus harassed may very well lose their faith in God because "a man of God" (prophet?) has so despicably treated them. When Christ spoke of "these little ones," I believe He included all vulnerable individuals -- those who cannot adequately protect themselves. With some encouragement, they may gather the strength to band together to stop Dan from harassing others in like manner.

To start this process, it would be necessary to have a contact point for former 3ABN employees that have had their future employment endangered because of Dan's harassment. I understand that there are others besides Linda Shelton and Darrell Mundall.

I suspct that the www.save3abn.com website would be a good place of contact. The next step would be to find a lawyer willing to file a class action suit in behalf of the victims of Dan's intimidation tactics.

Some of you know persons who have been harassed but who may not be posting here, and I believe it would be good for them to contact Gailon Joy or the webmaster of the site, asking him not to post their stories on the website until a lawyer has determined whether or not it would prejudice their case.

It may be possible to file a suit in such a way that it would include even current 3ABN employees that have been or are being intimidated. (I don't know because I'm not a lawyer.)

[Guest_glenetta_*]

[quote name='inga' date='Feb 7 2007, 12:13 PM' post='176119']
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You idea inga is a bit strange. Isn't Gailon Joy and attorney? Or just who and what is he? Is he some kind of Private Investigator? Please help me understand!
GP

[ex3ABNemployee]

You idea inga is a bit strange. Isn't Gailon Joy and attorney? Or just who and what is he? Is he some kind of Private Investigator? Please help me understand!
GP

I thought you said you had read the posts.

[Observer]

Mr. Joy is not a licensed attorney.

As to Private Investigator (PI): In many States, one is a PI who calls themself such, and/or registers with the State as such.

His detractors have stated that he is not a PI. There are Federal standards for a "Peace Officer." I have a son who is a Peace Officer and meets is certified so according to the Federal Standards. I do not question that Mr. Joy does not meet those standards. But, he is not required to meet them.

He can call himself a Private Investigator if he choses to do so. I also can call him such. As I said, commonly, no uniform set of standards exists as to what is required to be a PI.

Class Action Lawsuit: This is not as easy as one might think if one is unwilling to "front" the legal costs. There are a few law firms in the U.S. tha specialize in taking on class action lawsuits. But, many will not do so on a contingency basis.

If 3-ABN employees wanted to take legal action, I would suggest that they consult with a very good labor lawyer (employment law is a speciality). However, if they were to do so, I suspect that they would be told that it was a very complex case, and that there was a strong potential that IL labor law, at least in some aspects, did not apply to their employment at 3-ABN.


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[Lee]

Duane, be careful here. This is a new person and if she were to read every post on here, she'd be reading for months!

Glenetta, Gailon Joy is a self-appointed investigator who has taken it upon himself to do everything he can to shut down 3ABN, including Danny and the Board.

Don't believe everything you read here. Be careful. Pray.



Yes Observer--the lawyers on both sides are laughing all the way to the Bank!! They will be the real winners here

[ex3ABNemployee]

Duane, be careful here. This is a new person and if she were to read every post on here, she'd be reading for months!

Glenetta, Gailon Joy is a self-appointed investigator who has taken it upon himself to do everything he can to shut down 3ABN, including Danny and the Board.

Don't believe everything you read here. Be careful. Pray.
Yes Observer--the lawyers on both sides are laughing all the way to the Bank!! They will be the real winners here

An absolute lie. Gailon is trying to save 3abn.

[inga]

Glenetta, Gailon Joy is a self-appointed investigator who has taken it upon himself to do everything he can to shut down 3ABN, including Danny and the Board.

As I understand it, Gailon Joy has been a heavy supporter of 3ABN for years. He refused to investigate the situation a couple of years ago, shortly after Linda Shelton was fired. However, when certain details came to his attention, he smelled a rat and started to investigate.

Mr Joy wants to save 3ABN because he believes in its mission. If for no other reason, he would want to save 3ABN because of the amount he has invested in it.

As Observer has pointed out, one does not need to be a professional investigator to be an investigator. Mr. Joy seems to have the kind of bulldog tenacity and investigative savvy to be a formidable opponent for anyone whom he deems to be fraudulently representing the cause of God.

Whether or not a "class action suit" (by the legal definition) would work or not, it would seem useful for victims of harassment to get together to see what their legal options are. I suspect most feel themselves isolated (which is generally the objective of an abuser) and are just relieved to be out of the situation. Yet, if they will not speak up, the abuse continues ... Who knows how many of Christ's "little ones" (baby Christians) will be destroyed if others do not speak up?

[Spike]

I bet if there was some a way to donate to the cause of save3abn there would be many that would be willing to donate. Maybe there could be something set up through paypal.

I do know that their are many people that don't visit BSDA or martime or save3abn that knew something was wrong when Linda all of a sudden disappeared. What Danny and the boared don't seem to get is that Danny was never the one that people got a blessing from. I've watched 3abn off and on for 18 yrs and Danny has never had any thing to say but the same thing year after year. It's like Clay says "tiresome you are".

[awesumtenor]

I thought you said you had read the posts.

You know they only read the Danny authorized abridged and condensed version... anything else would only confuse them because it would force their brains to engage...

In His service,
Mr. J

[Observer]

So, Mr. Joy is attempting to shut down 3-ABN!

As has been posted here:

1) He has personally contributed and raised large sums of money for 3-ABN.

2) He was responsible for the distribution of the Ten Commandments book.

He would very much like to see major changes made in the governance of 3-ABN. But, that is not shuting it down, unless you tie 3-ABN to certain individuals.

[Bystander]

So, Mr. Joy is attempting to shut down 3-ABN!

As has been posted here:

1) He has personally contributed and raised large sums of money for 3-ABN.

2) He was responsible for the distribution of the Ten Commandments book.

Greg, normally you are careful about what you say and how you say it. This is the exception. I have made calls to verify what you have said. The records show that he has given a very small amount twice. I won't be as nasty as he and post the amount but "large sums of Money" it is not.

Next you say he was responsible for the distribution.....In what way. That statement sounds as if he was a distribution manager for 3abn. The only distributing that Gailon did might have been passing out some that he or his church had ordered. You made your statement in a way that appears he had some important job in helping to get out millions of books. He didn't


[quote name='inga' date='Feb 7 2007, 01:22 PM' post='176159']
As I understand it, Gailon Joy has been a heavy supporter of 3ABN for years. He refused to investigate the situation a couple of years ago, shortly after Linda Shelton was fired. However, when certain details came to his attention, he smelled a rat and started to investigate.

Mr Joy wants to save 3ABN because he believes in its mission. If for no other reason, he would want to save 3ABN because of the amount he has invested in it.


Read my post to observer. You couldn't be more wrong. I made phone calls to verify it. I am going to do more verifying as false information comes through here which then puts a false slant on everything done and said.

[fallible humanbe...]

So, Mr. Joy is attempting to shut down 3-ABN!

As has been posted here:

1) He has personally contributed and raised large sums of money for 3-ABN.

2) He was responsible for the distribution of the Ten Commandments book.

He would very much like to see major changes made in the governance of 3-ABN. But, that is not shuting it down, unless you tie 3-ABN to certain individuals.

Greg,

I have had a lingering question and it fits in here perfectly. When you go down to the bottom left-hand corner of the pages on the save3abn site you will find the following:

Save3ABN.com
Not © 2007

Can you clarify the use of the word "Not" for us? Is it an acronym? Is it the intials of the webmaster? Or, is it being used in the colloquial, sarcastic way it is today, which is to indicate that what has come just before it is not the truth?

- fhb

This post has been edited by fallible humanbeing: Feb 7 2007, 04:09 PM

[awesumtenor]

Greg, normally you are careful about what you say and how you say it. This is the exception. I have made calls to verify what you have said. The records show that he has given a very small amount twice. I won't be as nasty as he and post the amount but "large sums of Money" it is not.

Only if you choose to read it as you have... it is probably more correctly read with 'large' modifying the sums raised rather than those contributed. If you were unsure you should have asked if that is what he meant before castigating him...

Next you say he was responsible for the distribution.....In what way. That statement sounds as if he was a distribution manager for 3abn. The only distributing that Gailon did might have been passing out some that he or his church had ordered. You made your statement in a way that appears he had some important job in helping to get out millions of books. He didn't

No quantification was given... so again, this is an issue of your preconceived notions being read in rather than anythings being alleged on Mr. Joy's part.

In His service,
Mr. J

Greg,

I have had a lingering question and it fits in here perfectly. When you go down to the bottom left-hand corner of the pages on the save3abn site you will find the following:

Save3ABN.com
Not © 2007

Can you clarify the use of the word "Not" for us? Is it an acronym? Is it the intials of the webmaster? Or, is it being used in the colloquial, sarcastic way it is today, which is to indicate that what has come just before it is not the truth?

- fhb

I see the 3rd string has been pulled; I guess they werent competitive enough...

That is not to say, of course, that you are doing any better...

In His service,
Mr. J

[fallible humanbe...]

I see the 3rd string has been pulled; I guess they werent competitive enough...
That is not to say, of course, that you are doing any better...
In His service,
Mr. J

Well Kevin, can you answer the question? Is the site really in existance to "save" 3ABN or "Not"?

- fhb

[sonshineonme]

Duane, be careful here. This is a new person and if she were to read every post on here, she'd be reading for months!

Glenetta, Gailon Joy is a self-appointed investigator who has taken it upon himself to do everything he can to shut down 3ABN, including Danny and the Board.

Don't believe everything you read here. Be careful. Pray.
Yes Observer--the lawyers on both sides are laughing all the way to the Bank!! They will be the real winners here

mam, that is a blatant lie. Prove to me he wants to do that. Can you? I don't think so. You don't have to throw the baby out with the bath water. Now, if ds and admin want to throw the baby out with the bath water, that is their choice. Stop mixing the two together. They are seperate. One part admin, one part airwaves that show people talking/signing. The Good News will still be told, one way or another of God's grace, mercy, salvation and justice - on one network or another, one way or another. Remember the rocks that cry out??