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 Mar 15 2007, 02:58 PM
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Bystander FHB, WWJD, Lee, and any others.
Here is a letter that has danny's name on it. -------- Original Message -------- From: Danny Shelton To: Linda Shelton Sent: Tuesday, February 08, 2005 10:24 AM Linda, I just spoke with Larry W. He like the rest of us feel badly that you have been deceived by the Dr. He told me what you are saying. He says that you told him that May Chung basically called you a Hussie and hung up on you. I talked to May and she didn't say anything to that effect. He did say that you are running down Melody and me. He also said you tried to get him to believe that I have abused you. He told me that he had been around us for 20 years and knows better. He said you wanted him to believe that there were two Dan's. The public one and the home one. He doesn't believe that either and you know what, down deep you don't either. He did tell me that he wouldn't have put up with you and this Dr. as long as I did, if it had of been him. He said that if his Linda had a relationship like you and the Dr. had while we were married, you would have been out the door very quickly. Linda, people are going to listen to you, but that does not mean they agree with you. When it comes right down to it, no married person would endure the kind of relationship that you had with this Dr. while being married. Linda you wouldn't have allowed me to have a girl friend that I talked to on the phone every day for two hours at a time against your will. Let alone travel to meet them and go on dates to restaurants and visit in their hotel room late at night like you and this man did while we were married. Your heart left me and never came back to me after your Norway trip in Jan. of 2004. No one would put up with another man trying to convince his wife that he was crazy. He and Johann have gone too far. The trouble is, you are the one paying the piper. He has been a pile of poop in your life. Was your life better before you met this man or worse. If you say worse, then you should be happy right where you are. If you say your life was better before you met him, then you surely see he is a pile of poop for you, not a piece of chocolate cake. If you wake up, it may not be too late. I'm willing to talk to you about reconciliation of marriage and ministry. Linda, no one else can help you achieve that. I am the only one who can help bring you back to marriage and 3ABN, but I have to know that you see the Dr. as a pile of poop in your life. If I see a change in you, I can go to bat for you, but not until then. I haven't changed over the past year. I am still saying the same thing. Of course if I'm psychotic and such an abuser, then you wouldn't want to get back with me. But after all, it was the Lord who impressed you that your relationship with this man was wrong and that you should be with me and not him. I would have thought that you would have listened to God, but according to your own testimony you have written Him off too. That's a shame! Danny Shelton I have some questions about this letter. Do you know if Danny wrote this letter? Yes or No. Danny says he will take linda back, but i thought he had started dating Brandi by this point? That is all for now. erik |
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Mar 15 2007, 03:05 PM
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whats the obsession with poop?
-------------------- "you are as sick as your secrets...." -quote from Celebrity Rehab-
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Mar 15 2007, 03:07 PM
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QUOTE(Clay @ Mar 15 2007, 01:05 PM) [snapback]185556[/snapback] whats the obsession with poop? Clay, Not sure but it is interesting. Erik |
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Mar 15 2007, 03:15 PM
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Daaaaang!!
   Hersh, Re, have some? I got some fried chicken bits here....
-------------------- TTFN
Di And we know that all things work together for good to them that love God, to them who are the called according to his purpose---Romans 8:28 A great many people believe they are thinking when they are merely rearranging their prejudices.-- William James It is better to be silent and be thought a fool, than to speak and remove all doubt.- Mark Twain |
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Mar 15 2007, 03:32 PM
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QUOTE(erik @ Mar 15 2007, 04:07 PM) [snapback]185557[/snapback] Clay, Not sure but it is interesting. Erik there may be a connection.... it was said somewhere that Danny has horses.... horses produce piles of poop..... I guess as he was scooping horse manure maybe he decided to incorporate that concept in his emails..... 
-------------------- "you are as sick as your secrets...." -quote from Celebrity Rehab-
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Mar 15 2007, 03:32 PM
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QUOTE(erik @ Mar 15 2007, 10:58 PM) [snapback]185555[/snapback] Bystander FHB, WWJD, Lee, and any others. Here is a letter that has danny's name on it. -------- Original Message -------- From: Danny Shelton To: Linda Shelton Sent: Tuesday, February 08, 2005 10:24 AM Linda, I just spoke with Larry W. He like the rest of us feel badly that you have been deceived by the Dr. He told me what you are saying. He says that you told him that May Chung basically called you a Hussie and hung up on you. I talked to May and she didn't say anything to that effect. He did say that you are running down Melody and me. He also said you tried to get him to believe that I have abused you. He told me that he had been around us for 20 years and knows better. He said you wanted him to believe that there were two Dan's. The public one and the home one. He doesn't believe that either and you know what, down deep you don't either. He did tell me that he wouldn't have put up with you and this Dr. as long as I did, if it had of been him. He said that if his Linda had a relationship like you and the Dr. had while we were married, you would have been out the door very quickly. Linda, people are going to listen to you, but that does not mean they agree with you. When it comes right down to it, no married person would endure the kind of relationship that you had with this Dr. while being married. Linda you wouldn't have allowed me to have a girl friend that I talked to on the phone every day for two hours at a time against your will. Let alone travel to meet them and go on dates to restaurants and visit in their hotel room late at night like you and this man did while we were married. Your heart left me and never came back to me after your Norway trip in Jan. of 2004. No one would put up with another man trying to convince his wife that he was crazy. He and Johann have gone too far. The trouble is, you are the one paying the piper. He has been a pile of poop in your life. Was your life better before you met this man or worse. If you say worse, then you should be happy right where you are. If you say your life was better before you met him, then you surely see he is a pile of poop for you, not a piece of chocolate cake. If you wake up, it may not be too late. I'm willing to talk to you about reconciliation of marriage and ministry. Linda, no one else can help you achieve that. I am the only one who can help bring you back to marriage and 3ABN, but I have to know that you see the Dr. as a pile of poop in your life. If I see a change in you, I can go to bat for you, but not until then. I haven't changed over the past year. I am still saying the same thing. Of course if I'm psychotic and such an abuser, then you wouldn't want to get back with me. But after all, it was the Lord who impressed you that your relationship with this man was wrong and that you should be with me and not him. I would have thought that you would have listened to God, but according to your own testimony you have written Him off too. That's a shame! Danny Shelton I have some questions about this letter. Do you know if Danny wrote this letter? Yes or No. Danny says he will take linda back, but i thought he had started dating Brandi by this point? That is all for now. erik It is quite remarkable that shortly after Danny wrote this letter he wrote me another letter where he congratulated me that I was getting married, and in the same letter he told me that he too was getting married again. So why was Danny trying to impress? -------------------- "Any fact that needs to be disclosed should be put out now or as quickly as possible, because otherwise the bleeding will not end." (Attributed to Henry Kissinger) "He who passively accepts evil is as much involved in it as he who helps to perpetrate it" (Martin Luther King)  "The truth can lose nothing by close investigation". (1888 Materials 38) |
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Mar 15 2007, 03:34 PM
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QUOTE(princessdi @ Mar 15 2007, 05:15 PM) [snapback]185559[/snapback] Daaaaang!! Hersh, Re, have some? I got some fried chicken bits here....Any battered and deep fried chickettes ladies? nw C"i" -------------------- “I believe in Christianity as I believe that the sun has risen: not only because I see it, but because by it I see everything else.” C.S. Lewis
"To love means loving the unlovable. To forgive means pardoning the unpardonable. Faith means believing the unbelievable. Hope means hoping when everything seems hopeless." G. K. Chesterton |
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Mar 15 2007, 03:45 PM
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QUOTE(Johann @ Mar 15 2007, 01:32 PM) [snapback]185562[/snapback] It is quite remarkable that shortly after Danny wrote this letter he wrote me another letter where he congratulated me that I was getting married, and in the same letter he told me that he too was getting married again. So why was Danny trying to impress? Johann, I was remembering your Letter with my Question. I so want to belief that Danny is not the Bad Guy but then letters like this come along and man has to scratch his head in wonderment. Erik |
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Mar 15 2007, 03:50 PM
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QUOTE(princessdi @ Mar 15 2007, 04:15 PM) [snapback]185559[/snapback] Daaaaang!! Hersh, Re, have some? I got some fried chicken bits here....Thanks I was getting hungry! These are the real deal fried chicken bits I assume? Sure hope so don't want no furry stuff for sure.  -------------------- My second favorite household chore is ironing. My first one being -- hitting my head on the top bunk bed until I faint.
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Mar 15 2007, 04:02 PM
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QUOTE(erik @ Mar 15 2007, 04:45 PM) [snapback]185569[/snapback] Johann, I was remembering your Letter with my Question. I so want to belief that Danny is not the Bad Guy but then letters like this come along and man has to scratch his head in wonderment. Erik Sorry Erik..... these letters we are seeing now are very typical Dannyletters. I did not receive any direct from him, but all along from mid 2004 on, I was receiving forwards of letters from him.... not all to Linda or Johann..... He killed his image with a number of persons who sent samples of letters they had received from him to show what it was that had caused them to change their minds about who was speaking truth. |
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Mar 15 2007, 04:09 PM
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QUOTE(watchbird @ Mar 15 2007, 03:02 PM) [snapback]185571[/snapback] Sorry Erik..... these letters we are seeing now are very typical Dannyletters. I did not receive any direct from him, but all along from mid 2004 on, I was receiving forwards of letters from him.... not all to Linda or Johann..... He killed his image with a number of persons who sent samples of letters they had received from him to show what it was that had caused them to change their minds about who was speaking truth. Watchbird, it is ok, i just do not get how those that defend him can look past the different story lines in the letters he is in love with linda but dating/engaged to another. Speaking has a guy, i have to wonder if just missed the sex that bad.( if this is out of line i sorry and but it is the first thing i thought of, having had friends that basicly got remarried quickly for that very reason) Erik |
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Mar 15 2007, 04:12 PM
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Here are some letters from both Linda and us from the time when Linda and Danny were sharing the same home and computer.
From: Linda Shelton [mailto:linda.shelton@3abn.org] Sent: 14. apríl 2004 19:55 To: Johann Thorvaldsson Subject: Re: Greetings Hi Johann, I said a prayer for you and Irmgard. I know this has to be alot of stress on you both right now. In fact, as I heard Dan speaking to you today I thought, this is terrible. You already have so much you are dealing with to hear about more problems. I am so sorry. Johann...and I think you already know this, I will not call my husband a "liar" because I hate that word. But please take his words with a grain of salt. His words come across completely out of context and he takes fragments of sentences here, and pieces there to form his "case." And quite frankly, what he has done to isolate Brenda from me, now I think he is trying to do with you and Irmgard. Please pray for me right now. I am really "trying" to love my husband right now, but his words and actions keep getting in the way! (Hope this doesn't sound too bad...but it's the truth.) But I'm hanging on to Jesus and 3ABN with every fragment of strength that I have. May God help us!! God bless you!! LS ----- Original Message ----- From: Johann Thorvaldsson To: Linda Shelton Sent: Saturday, April 10, 2004 2:09 PM Subject: Greetings -----Original Message----- From: Linda Shelton [mailto:Linda.Shelton@3abn.org] Sent: 8. april 2004 23:15 To: Johann Thorvaldsson Subject: Re: Hospital Hi Johann & Irmgard, Your prayers are my life support system right now. I will only answer your calls when I am able. God bless you!! [Johann and Irmgard Thorvaldsson] It is amazing how we have become to mean so much to each others. Love you, Linda [Johann and Irmgard Thorvaldsson] Danny, You are presenting Linda as the "angel" and the devoted wife she has always been. So, I'm the bad fellow. At church this morning the pastor's wife gave me a big hug - and so did her husband. Right in front of Irmgard she reminded me of the great love relationship there had been between her mother and me many years ago, which her mother had told her all about. Yes, I loved Mrs.H***, and neither Irmgard nor Mr. ***H**** seemed to mind. Our common interest was music, singing, and evangelism. We could spend hours talking together about those things. We had no idea that we were not permitted to talk more than firve or 10 minutes, so we never timed our conversations. If we had know better we'd alway seen to it that someone else was there with us when we talked together. None of us ever thought it would hurt our spouses. We both knew that our spouses trusted us. Mrs, H*** died several years ago. I might be more careful today, especially since I have learned that there are husbands around that are certain the devil is at work after 5 or 10 minutes. Love must be bound by fetters that limit your own behavior - and the word of God - but the moment you tie your spouse with those same fetters, love goes out and a demon destroys your marriage. -------------------- "Any fact that needs to be disclosed should be put out now or as quickly as possible, because otherwise the bleeding will not end." (Attributed to Henry Kissinger) "He who passively accepts evil is as much involved in it as he who helps to perpetrate it" (Martin Luther King) "The truth can lose nothing by close investigation". (1888 Materials 38) |
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Mar 15 2007, 04:14 PM
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Yes, NW, I got fried Fri-chik here~! Want some juice, water, Propel? Chicken nuggets are nere, too Hersh! I even bought a bag of Easter Kisses for you!
 QUOTE(Noahswife @ Mar 15 2007, 01:34 PM) [snapback]185563[/snapback] Any battered and deep fried chickettes ladies? nw C"i" -------------------- TTFN
Di And we know that all things work together for good to them that love God, to them who are the called according to his purpose---Romans 8:28 A great many people believe they are thinking when they are merely rearranging their prejudices.-- William James It is better to be silent and be thought a fool, than to speak and remove all doubt.- Mark Twain |
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Mar 15 2007, 04:21 PM
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QUOTE(Johann @ Mar 15 2007, 03:12 PM) [snapback]185574[/snapback] Here are some letters from both Linda and us from the time when Linda and Danny were sharing the same home and computer. From: Linda Shelton [mailto:linda.shelton@3abn.org] Sent: 14. apríl 2004 19:55 To: Johann Thorvaldsson Subject: Re: Greetings Hi Johann, I said a prayer for you and Irmgard. I know this has to be alot of stress on you both right now. In fact, as I heard Dan speaking to you today I thought, this is terrible. You already have so much you are dealing with to hear about more problems. I am so sorry. Johann...and I think you already know this, I will not call my husband a "liar" because I hate that word. But please take his words with a grain of salt. His words come across completely out of context and he takes fragments of sentences here, and pieces there to form his "case." And quite frankly, what he has done to isolate Brenda from me, now I think he is trying to do with you and Irmgard. Please pray for me right now. I am really "trying" to love my husband right now, but his words and actions keep getting in the way! (Hope this doesn't sound too bad...but it's the truth.) But I'm hanging on to Jesus and 3ABN with every fragment of strength that I have. May God help us!! God bless you!! LS ----- Original Message ----- From: Johann Thorvaldsson To: Linda Shelton Sent: Saturday, April 10, 2004 2:09 PM Subject: Greetings -----Original Message----- From: Linda Shelton [mailto:Linda.Shelton@3abn.org] Sent: 8. april 2004 23:15 To: Johann Thorvaldsson Subject: Re: Hospital Hi Johann & Irmgard, Your prayers are my life support system right now. I will only answer your calls when I am able. God bless you!! [Johann and Irmgard Thorvaldsson] It is amazing how we have become to mean so much to each others. Love you, Linda [Johann and Irmgard Thorvaldsson] Danny, You are presenting Linda as the "angel" and the devoted wife she has always been. So, I'm the bad fellow. At church this morning the pastor's wife gave me a big hug - and so did her husband. Right in front of Irmgard she reminded me of the great love relationship there had been between her mother and me many years ago, which her mother had told her all about. Yes, I loved Mrs.H***, and neither Irmgard nor Mr. ***H**** seemed to mind. Our common interest was music, singing, and evangelism. We could spend hours talking together about those things. We had no idea that we were not permitted to talk more than firve or 10 minutes, so we never timed our conversations. If we had know better we'd alway seen to it that someone else was there with us when we talked together. None of us ever thought it would hurt our spouses. We both knew that our spouses trusted us. Mrs, H*** died several years ago. I might be more careful today, especially since I have learned that there are husbands around that are certain the devil is at work after 5 or 10 minutes. Love must be bound by fetters that limit your own behavior - and the word of God - but the moment you tie your spouse with those same fetters, love goes out and a demon destroys your marriage. Johann, your letters remind of wha the pastor who did my wifes and i pre-marriage classes with us, told us. that for Love to Grow you have to Trust each more then any thing else, outside of God. IT is great to read about how you modeled that in your marriage. Erik |
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Mar 15 2007, 04:31 PM
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QUOTE(erik @ Mar 16 2007, 12:21 AM) [snapback]185577[/snapback] Johann, your letters remind of wha the pastor who did my wifes and i pre-marriage classes with us, told us. that for Love to Grow you have to Trust each more then any thing else, outside of God. IT is great to read about how you modeled that in your marriage. Erik As you can see I was trying to tell Danny this, knowing that at this time he was reading what I wrote to Linda, but it did not make much impression on him, except in those letters he wrote to impress the outsiders, as in the letter you posted above. -------------------- "Any fact that needs to be disclosed should be put out now or as quickly as possible, because otherwise the bleeding will not end." (Attributed to Henry Kissinger) "He who passively accepts evil is as much involved in it as he who helps to perpetrate it" (Martin Luther King) "The truth can lose nothing by close investigation". (1888 Materials 38) |
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