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Just one week following Linda Shelton firing of Atty Brian Drew and retaining new and very aggressive Counsel to represent her interests relating to the division of marital assets, Danny Lee Shelton boarded the Cessna Citation III twin jet and headed west arriving at McClellan Airfield in Central Sacramento, California at noontime; In time to join Doug Batchelor and the officers and directors of Amazing Facts for lunch. The North American Division Spanish Coordinator who serves as Chairman of the Board of Amazing Facts, is is reportedly directing final negotiations in Sacramento, California.
Following the meeting, Staffers, past and present, from Amazing Facts began to leak quietly that 3ABN had been taken over by Amazing Facts. The terms and conditions have not been disclosed and everyone is waiting with baited breathe for the 3ABN Live for Thursday, April 19, 2007. It is anticipated that there will be a major announcement at that time, perhaps confirming the takeover by Amazing Facts of the reportedly severely wounded media giant. The co-founders of 3ABN, Danny Lee Shelton, President, and Linda Sue Shelton, Vice President and Secretary, worked together for nearly twenty years, the entire time of their marriage together, to build 3ABN from a dream into a world-wide televangelist supporting ministry of the Seventh-day Adventist Church. Many have argued that it was, in fact, the media face of the Seventh-day Adventist Church for many years. Suddenly, in 2004, Danny Lee Shelton allegedly lead a three month campaign, privately and publicly, to eliminate Linda Sue Shelton from her role as Vice President and as Director of Production at 3ABN. She was fired in May of 2004, the record seems to reveal as many as three different times in one of the worst bunglings in SDA employment history. In June of the same year, just two weeks after the third firing, Danny Lee Shelton filed divorce papers in Guam to end the marriage to the Vice President he clearly wanted to get rid of. His public relationship with Brandy began shortly after the divorce when Brandy took up residence on the campus as early as July, 2004 and became permanently employed in October, 2004. Rumors from various sources claim that 3ABN has been running an operating deficit of nearly $3.0 Million during the first quarter of 2007. This large hole developed following disclosure of certain unacceptable practices, certain staffing concerns and the alleged mis-management of 3ABN under Danny Lee Sheltons administration following the elimination of Linda Shelton in May of 2004. Some claim the downward spiral began in earnest with the remarriage of Danny Lee Shelton to his third wife, 20 years younger, in March of 2006. Since most Seventh-day Adventists believe there has never been a biblical basis for the Danny Lee Shelton divorce from Linda Shelton in June of 2004, the remarriage to Brandy is viewed by most contributors as adultery under the biblical standard. Contributions have been rumored to have substantially declined since December of 2006 as disclosures by both sides became public debate on forums and e-mail campaigns. Linda Shelton also recently demanded that 3ABN produce and make available for authentication the evidence that was purportedly the basis for her being caste aside in 2004 and lead to Danny Lee Shelton divorcing her and remarrying Brandy. Linda has repeatedly denied any wrongdoing, however, officers and directors of 3ABN have utilized the bully pulpit of 3ABN to regularly assert that Linda had conducted an inappropriate telephone relationship with a Dr in Norway that was treating her son from a prior marriage, Nathan Moore. They have further variously claimed that she had committed what was variously defined as a spiritual adultery against Danny Lee Shelton. This reporter reviewed and tested many of the allegations leveled by Danny Lee Shelton in a myriad of e-mails and came to the conclusion after a review of various statements that the alleged evidence is unlikely to constitute any provable case against Linda Shelton. This reporter actively participated in an effort to get an ASI panel to hear the case and review the evidence. When the panel failed, a website was constructed to make the real evidence available for contributors referred to as the stockholders in the pews to look for themselves and self-determine where they felt the evidence really pointed. Much of this is documented at www.Save3ABN.com. Danny and the Chairman of the Board have repeatedly warned of pending litigation against those responsible for having exposed various issues relating to violations of SDA Standards as well as alleged financial Exigency issues, including non-disclosure of certain conflicts within the records of 3ABN and some of its officers. Danny and the Chairman are reported to have flown to Minnesota on March 15, 2007 and there was an assumption that litigation would be forthcoming shortly after that visit since this reporter and AToday received warning letters from counsel in Minnesota, closely aligned over the years with Garwin McNeilus, a Danny supporter and the alleged contractor with a detective agency that spent time spying on Linda Sue Shelton in 2004. Danny is alleged to have claimed that Mr McNeilus is even paying for Danny's attorney. While rumors of negotiations and that Doug Batchelor was actively wanting a media platform to expand the Amazing Facts, Inc Ministry have been active for the entire six months of our investigative reporting, the sudden breakthrough and conclusion was clearly unanticipated by anyone this reporter spoke to at this time. The sudden conclusion to negotiations came just days after Linda Shelton hired new counsel with clear instructions that he was to conduct vigorous litigation and discovery to determine just where the assets from the marriage were and what belonged to whom. Several recent allegations have arisen regarding a host of financial non-disclosures by respondent, Danny Lee Shelton, suggesting that he had actively undertaken steps to hide or deliberately mis-state income, assets and royalties arising from 3ABN business activities, including sales of books, records, cd’s and dvd’s and other assets. It is alleged that in several cases Danny Lee Shelton would author or co-author books, a publisher would produce several hundred thousand at a time and these would actually be sold to 3ABN and inventoried, purportedly netting instant royalties to Danny Lee Shelton. An inspection of the 990’s filed with the Internal Revenue Service appears to have faile d to disclose any such arrangements, despite the fact it is a clear conflict to have an officer or employee have such a business arrangement without disclosure under IRS Rules for Non-profit entities. In fact, 3ABN employees are required to sign a conflict of interest statement annually. Did the officers and directors not feel these rules applied to Danny Lee Shelton??? According to legal sources, these allegations and others relating to real estate transactions and allegedly secret arrangement by the President to compensate certain family members and a fiance’ without the full knowledge of the 3ABN Board may have clearly jeopardized the 501-c-3 status of 3ABN, already the subject of a case under appeal in the State of Illinois where an administrative Law Judge clearly determined that most of the 3ABN campus would not be tax exempt from real estate taxes in Franklin County. At press time, we have not had a chance to get an official statement from Amazing Facts, Inc officers or Directors, and a number of contacts that this reporter had known within the Amazing Facts management team have recently left Amazing facts for various reasons. Amazing Facts, Inc is commonly considered to be an independent supporting ministry of the SDA Church but insiders have made it clear that Amazing Facts is in fact a ministry of the Seventh-day Adventist Church. This allegation is supported by the following notice on the AmazingFact.org website which this reporter has posted below: {News Release: 4/17/2007 Employment Opportunities All applicants must be cleared or approved to work in the United States. Although Amazing Facts, Inc. is an equal opportunity employer that does not discriminate in its employment policies and practices on the basis of race, national origin, gender, color, age, marital status, disability, or any other basis prohibited by law, it is a religious association and a part of the Seventh-day Adventist Church. The employment practices reflect religious preferences in harmony with the U.S. Constitution and controlling law, and it therefore hires only Seventh-day Adventist Church members in good standing. Employees of Amazing Facts are extended the same benefit package as NAD denominational employees. Employee transfers from other NAD denominational institutions are seamlessly accomplished.} It would appear that rather belatedly, Elder Folkenburgs desire to see 3ABN a part of the Seventh-day Adventist Church is about to become a reality. But how will the new management view the need to compensate the various alleged victims of the Shelton Administration? Stay Tuned!!! Gailon Arthur Joy AUReporter Save3ABN.com -------------------- "Any fact that needs to be disclosed should be put out now or as quickly as possible, because otherwise the bleeding will not end." (Attributed to Henry Kissinger) "He who passively accepts evil is as much involved in it as he who helps to perpetrate it" (Martin Luther King) |
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Apr 19 2007, 05:33 AM
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QUOTE(Johann @ Apr 19 2007, 04:27 AM) [snapback]191945[/snapback] Just one week following Linda Shelton firing of Atty Brian Drew and retaining new and very aggressive Counsel to represent her interests relating to the division of marital assets, Danny Lee Shelton boarded the Cessna Citation III twin jet and headed west arriving at McClellan Airfield in Central Sacramento, California at noontime; In time to join Doug Batchelor and the officers and directors of Amazing Facts for lunch. The North American Division Spanish Coordinator who serves as Chairman of the Board of Amazing Facts, is is reportedly directing final negotiations in Sacramento, California. Following the meeting, Staffers, past and present, from Amazing Facts began to leak quietly that 3ABN had been taken over by Amazing Facts. The terms and conditions have not been disclosed and everyone is waiting with baited breathe for the 3ABN Live for Thursday, April 19, 2007. It is anticipated that there will be a major announcement at that time, perhaps confirming the takeover by Amazing Facts of the reportedly severely wounded media giant. The co-founders of 3ABN, Danny Lee Shelton, President, and Linda Sue Shelton, Vice President and Secretary, worked together for nearly twenty years, the entire time of their marriage together, to build 3ABN from a dream into a world-wide televangelist supporting ministry of the Seventh-day Adventist Church. Many have argued that it was, in fact, the media face of the Seventh-day Adventist Church for many years. Suddenly, in 2004, Danny Lee Shelton allegedly lead a three month campaign, privately and publicly, to eliminate Linda Sue Shelton from her role as Vice President and as Director of Production at 3ABN. She was fired in May of 2004, the record seems to reveal as many as three different times in one of the worst bunglings in SDA employment history. In June of the same year, just two weeks after the third firing, Danny Lee Shelton filed divorce papers in Guam to end the marriage to the Vice President he clearly wanted to get rid of. His public relationship with Brandy began shortly after the divorce when Brandy took up residence on the campus as early as July, 2004 and became permanently employed in October, 2004. Rumors from various sources claim that 3ABN has been running an operating deficit of nearly $3.0 Million during the first quarter of 2007. This large hole developed following disclosure of certain unacceptable practices, certain staffing concerns and the alleged mis-management of 3ABN under Danny Lee Sheltons administration following the elimination of Linda Shelton in May of 2004. Some claim the downward spiral began in earnest with the remarriage of Danny Lee Shelton to his third wife, 20 years younger, in March of 2006. Since most Seventh-day Adventists believe there has never been a biblical basis for the Danny Lee Shelton divorce from Linda Shelton in June of 2004, the remarriage to Brandy is viewed by most contributors as adultery under the biblical standard. Contributions have been rumored to have substantially declined since December of 2006 as disclosures by both sides became public debate on forums and e-mail campaigns. Linda Shelton also recently demanded that 3ABN produce and make available for authentication the evidence that was purportedly the basis for her being caste aside in 2004 and lead to Danny Lee Shelton divorcing her and remarrying Brandy. Linda has repeatedly denied any wrongdoing, however, officers and directors of 3ABN have utilized the bully pulpit of 3ABN to regularly assert that Linda had conducted an inappropriate telephone relationship with a Dr in Norway that was treating her son from a prior marriage, Nathan Moore. They have further variously claimed that she had committed what was variously defined as a spiritual adultery against Danny Lee Shelton. This reporter reviewed and tested many of the allegations leveled by Danny Lee Shelton in a myriad of e-mails and came to the conclusion after a review of various statements that the alleged evidence is unlikely to constitute any provable case against Linda Shelton. This reporter actively participated in an effort to get an ASI panel to hear the case and review the evidence. When the panel failed, a website was constructed to make the real evidence available for contributors referred to as the stockholders in the pews to look for themselves and self-determine where they felt the evidence really pointed. Much of this is documented at www.Save3ABN.com. Danny and the Chairman of the Board have repeatedly warned of pending litigation against those responsible for having exposed various issues relating to violations of SDA Standards as well as alleged financial Exigency issues, including non-disclosure of certain conflicts within the records of 3ABN and some of its officers. Danny and the Chairman are reported to have flown to Minnesota on March 15, 2007 and there was an assumption that litigation would be forthcoming shortly after that visit since this reporter and AToday received warning letters from counsel in Minnesota, closely aligned over the years with Garwin McNeilus, a Danny supporter and the alleged contractor with a detective agency that spent time spying on Linda Sue Shelton in 2004. Danny is alleged to have claimed that Mr McNeilus is even paying for Danny's attorney. While rumors of negotiations and that Doug Batchelor was actively wanting a media platform to expand the Amazing Facts, Inc Ministry have been active for the entire six months of our investigative reporting, the sudden breakthrough and conclusion was clearly unanticipated by anyone this reporter spoke to at this time. The sudden conclusion to negotiations came just days after Linda Shelton hired new counsel with clear instructions that he was to conduct vigorous litigation and discovery to determine just where the assets from the marriage were and what belonged to whom. Several recent allegations have arisen regarding a host of financial non-disclosures by respondent, Danny Lee Shelton, suggesting that he had actively undertaken steps to hide or deliberately mis-state income, assets and royalties arising from 3ABN business activities, including sales of books, records, cd’s and dvd’s and other assets. It is alleged that in several cases Danny Lee Shelton would author or co-author books, a publisher would produce several hundred thousand at a time and these would actually be sold to 3ABN and inventoried, purportedly netting instant royalties to Danny Lee Shelton. An inspection of the 990’s filed with the Internal Revenue Service appears to have faile d to disclose any such arrangements, despite the fact it is a clear conflict to have an officer or employee have such a business arrangement without disclosure under IRS Rules for Non-profit entities. In fact, 3ABN employees are required to sign a conflict of interest statement annually. Did the officers and directors not feel these rules applied to Danny Lee Shelton??? According to legal sources, these allegations and others relating to real estate transactions and allegedly secret arrangement by the President to compensate certain family members and a fiance’ without the full knowledge of the 3ABN Board may have clearly jeopardized the 501-c-3 status of 3ABN, already the subject of a case under appeal in the State of Illinois where an administrative Law Judge clearly determined that most of the 3ABN campus would not be tax exempt from real estate taxes in Franklin County. At press time, we have not had a chance to get an official statement from Amazing Facts, Inc officers or Directors, and a number of contacts that this reporter had known within the Amazing Facts management team have recently left Amazing facts for various reasons. Amazing Facts, Inc is commonly considered to be an independent supporting ministry of the SDA Church but insiders have made it clear that Amazing Facts is in fact a ministry of the Seventh-day Adventist Church. This allegation is supported by the following notice on the AmazingFact.org website which this reporter has posted below: {News Release: 4/17/2007 Employment Opportunities All applicants must be cleared or approved to work in the United States. Although Amazing Facts, Inc. is an equal opportunity employer that does not discriminate in its employment policies and practices on the basis of race, national origin, gender, color, age, marital status, disability, or any other basis prohibited by law, it is a religious association and a part of the Seventh-day Adventist Church. The employment practices reflect religious preferences in harmony with the U.S. Constitution and controlling law, and it therefore hires only Seventh-day Adventist Church members in good standing. Employees of Amazing Facts are extended the same benefit package as NAD denominational employees. Employee transfers from other NAD denominational institutions are seamlessly accomplished.} It would appear that rather belatedly, Elder Folkenburgs desire to see 3ABN a part of the Seventh-day Adventist Church is about to become a reality. But how will the new management view the need to compensate the various alleged victims of the Shelton Administration? Stay Tuned!!! Gailon Arthur Joy AUReporter Save3ABN.com Yes, this has been circulated. At this point in time, I consider it to be speculative. I intend to attempt to make some telephone calls today in an attempt to find out if it is true. Regardless of what I learn, I will report back to you on what I find. -------------------- Gregory Matthews posts here under the name "Observer."
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Apr 19 2007, 06:49 AM
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QUOTE(Observer @ Apr 19 2007, 01:33 PM) [snapback]191951[/snapback] Yes, this has been circulated. At this point in time, I consider it to be speculative. I intend to attempt to make some telephone calls today in an attempt to find out if it is true. Regardless of what I learn, I will report back to you on what I find. It will be even more interesting to see the reactions from 3ABN and/or AmazingFacts. those of you who can take in 3ABN and have the opportunity should make a recording of the program tonight. It will be interesting to see if Danny Shelton is back in Thomsonville, or if he is still in Sacramento. This post has been edited by Johann: Apr 19 2007, 06:55 AM -------------------- "Any fact that needs to be disclosed should be put out now or as quickly as possible, because otherwise the bleeding will not end." (Attributed to Henry Kissinger) "He who passively accepts evil is as much involved in it as he who helps to perpetrate it" (Martin Luther King) |
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Apr 19 2007, 07:44 AM
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QUOTE(Johann @ Apr 19 2007, 05:49 AM) [snapback]191954[/snapback] It will be even more interesting to see the reactions from 3ABN and/or AmazingFacts. those of you who can take in 3ABN and have the opportunity should make a recording of the program tonight. It will be interesting to see if Danny Shelton is back in Thomsonville, or if he is still in Sacramento. As the mornning wears on, I will be making telephone calls. We shall se. -------------------- Gregory Matthews posts here under the name "Observer."
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Apr 19 2007, 08:17 AM
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QUOTE(Johann @ Apr 19 2007, 08:49 AM) [snapback]191954[/snapback] It will be even more interesting to see the reactions from 3ABN and/or AmazingFacts. those of you who can take in 3ABN and have the opportunity should make a recording of the program tonight. It will be interesting to see if Danny Shelton is back in Thomsonville, or if he is still in Sacramento. What I am interested in knowing is what this would mean as far as "cleaning up the mess" in 3abn. IMO, Doug Batchelor has been so much a part of the "mess" that I can't see how his taking over would bring any feeling of confidence that the wrongs would be righted, that the Shelton family and other directors who have been a part of the "mess" would be separated from 3abn... or that victims of Danny's harrassment in the past would feel any security. And also... what does it mean as for its connections with the denomination? In spite of what the letter says... Amazing Facts is considered an independent ministry... just as 3abn is. So how would a "takeover" by Amazing Facts affect the status and connection between the official "church" and the ministry? Lots of questions this raises......  .....  ....And lots of waiting to see.....  .....
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Apr 19 2007, 09:20 AM
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QUOTE(watchbird @ Apr 19 2007, 07:17 AM) [snapback]191958[/snapback] What I am interested in knowing is what this would mean as far as "cleaning up the mess" in 3abn. IMO, Doug Batchelor has been so much a part of the "mess" that I can't see how his taking over would bring any feeling of confidence that the wrongs would be righted, that the Shelton family and other directors who have been a part of the "mess" would be separated from 3abn... or that victims of Danny's harrassment in the past would feel any security. And also... what does it mean as for its connections with the denomination? In spite of what the letter says... Amazing Facts is considered an independent ministry... just as 3abn is. So how would a "takeover" by Amazing Facts affect the status and connection between the official "church" and the ministry? Lots of questions this raises...... ..... ....And lots of waiting to see..... .....The following has been posted on MSDAOL, this morning, by a person who appars to be kknowledgeable of this situation: [quote] Amazing Facts and 3abn are UNITING as one independent ministry NOT under the General Conference. One is not "taking over" the other. They are uniting together. Danny is not leaving 3abn. This uniting has nothing to do with the attacks by Mr. Joy and company on Danny Shelton. And this has been in the making for months now. This did not just happen after Linda acquired her new lawyer. Mr. Joy needs to get his facts straight before he posts his spin on the subject. Watch 3abn LIVE tonight and you will see Danny Shelton and Doug Batchelor announcing this. [/qote] I am still attempting to get through on some telephone calls. This post has been edited by Observer: Apr 19 2007, 09:21 AM -------------------- Gregory Matthews posts here under the name "Observer."
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QUOTE(watchbird @ Apr 19 2007, 09:17 AM) [snapback]191958[/snapback] What I am interested in knowing is what this would mean as far as "cleaning up the mess" in 3abn. IMO, Doug Batchelor has been so much a part of the "mess" That's my concern as well. It is possible that Amazing Facts could "take over" 3ABN and business continues more or less as usual with Danny continuing to draw his salary but having just a little less control -- considering how Doug Batchelor has propped up Danny as his "good friend" so far. We shall have to wait and see ... |
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Apr 19 2007, 10:10 AM
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QUOTE(inga @ Apr 19 2007, 09:27 AM) [snapback]191967[/snapback] That's my concern as well. It is possible that Amazing Facts could "take over" 3ABN and business continues more or less as usual with Danny continuing to draw his salary but having just a little less control -- considering how Doug Batchelor has propped up Danny as his "good friend" so far. We shall have to wait and see ... I have news. See the new thread that I am starting. -------------------- Gregory Matthews posts here under the name "Observer."
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Apr 19 2007, 03:18 PM
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and Doug Batchelor being best buds with John L. makes me hate to think of losing another person i enjoyed and admired. is this another going into the fire, to fuel the smokescreen of misdeeds? at first i thought this might be good news. now i'm not so sure. we must pray about this.
QUOTE(inga @ Apr 19 2007, 08:27 AM) [snapback]191967[/snapback] That's my concern as well. It is possible that Amazing Facts could "take over" 3ABN and business continues more or less as usual with Danny continuing to draw his salary but having just a little less control -- considering how Doug Batchelor has propped up Danny as his "good friend" so far. We shall have to wait and see ... -------------------- Thess. 2:16-17 - Now may our Lord Jesus Christ Himself, and our God and Father, who has loved us and given us everlasting consolation and good hope by grace, comfort your hearts and establish you in every good word and work."
[quote: fine art] "Instead we seem to be using sensationalism, emotionalism, moving lights and motivational speakers that are prepared to manipulate, by well chosen words, the minds of the listeners. It used to be, messages that were given by our pioneers were wrenched from the depths of the heart by the Holy Spirit. Humor was not added to get that laugh of entertainment. Drama was not introduced behind the sacred desk to glue your attention. Man's Rationale has replaced a cry for God's wisdom." "How To Be Free From Bitterness" ( booklet written by Jim Wilson of Community Christian Ministries, Moscow, Idaho - E-mail: ccm@moscow.com ) |
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QUOTE(mozart @ Apr 19 2007, 11:18 PM) [snapback]192040[/snapback] and Doug Batchelor being best buds with John L. makes me hate to think of losing another person i enjoyed and admired. is this another going into the fire, to fuel the smokescreen of misdeeds? at first i thought this might be good news. now i'm not so sure. we must pray about this. We should all join you in this prayer, Mozart. -------------------- "Any fact that needs to be disclosed should be put out now or as quickly as possible, because otherwise the bleeding will not end." (Attributed to Henry Kissinger) "He who passively accepts evil is as much involved in it as he who helps to perpetrate it" (Martin Luther King) |
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QUOTE(mozart @ Apr 19 2007, 04:18 PM) [snapback]192040[/snapback] and Doug Batchelor being best buds with John L. makes me hate to think of losing another person i enjoyed and admired. is this another going into the fire, to fuel the smokescreen of misdeeds? at first i thought this might be good news. now i'm not so sure. we must pray about this. I tend to agree, Mozart. I can't help but wonder if this is all just a really big broom sweeping a really big mess under a really big rug...  I hope I am wrong... |
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QUOTE(Snoopy @ Apr 19 2007, 05:37 PM) [snapback]192045[/snapback] I tend to agree, Mozart. I can't help but wonder if this is all just a really big broom sweeping a really big mess under a really big rug... I hope I am wrong... But you have a very good track record for being right. 
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Apr 19 2007, 09:28 PM
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So what was that supposedly great 3ABN live all about? I heard the whole thing and I am still
puzzled. Didn't hear about any name change. Didn't hear that Batchelor would be physically at 3ABN. DS didn't step down. Didn't hear any reason for a merger. Didn't hear any plans other than a new board (probably merged too). DID hear a plea for much money needed, indeed millions. DID hear that the SDA conference was 100% behind them. So......what was it, a well-planned plot? msraccoon |
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QUOTE So what was that supposedly great 3ABN live all about? I heard the whole thing and I am still puzzled. I heard Mollie make it very clear that she was not planning on going anywhere. As they went around the group, and let them tell how they had visions of the merger, and how the Lord was directing all of this, and after Danny talked about the board members unselfishly saying they would step aside, if necessary for the ministry, she took her time telling how she was going to keep doing her job. I wonder if she is feeling a little insecure. This post has been edited by lookin4truth: Apr 19 2007, 09:50 PM |
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QUOTE(msraccoon @ Apr 19 2007, 07:28 PM) [snapback]192100[/snapback] So what was that supposedly great 3ABN live all about? I heard the whole thing and I am still puzzled. Didn't hear about any name change. Didn't hear that Batchelor would be physically at 3ABN. DS didn't step down. Didn't hear any reason for a merger. Didn't hear any plans other than a new board (probably merged too). DID hear a plea for much money needed, indeed millions. DID hear that the SDA conference was 100% behind them. So......what was it, a well-planned plot? msraccoon Yep... lottsa good questions. Yep .... did hear Danny requesting millions from supporters... (need millions and millions). The plea is probably still falling on deaf ears...  Yep... was a let down... Rosyroi -------------------- "Joy, Love, Peace, Long Suffering, Gentleness, Goodness, Faith, Meekness, and Self Control are what being full of the Holy Spirit is all about." Galations 5. "Don't waste your time waiting and longing for large opportunities which may never come, but faitfully handle the little things that are always claiming your attention..." F.B. Meyers "Truth welcomes examination and doesn't need to defend itself, while deception hides in darkness and blames everyone else." Aunt B. 2007 "For GOD so LOVED you and me..." John 3:16 "I believe that there is a devil, and here's Satan's agenda. First, he doesn't want anyone having kids. Secondly, if they do conceive, he wants them killed. If they're not killed through abortion, he wants them neglected or abused physically, emotionally, sexually...One way or another, the legions of hell want to destroy children because children become the future adults and leaders. If they (legions) can warp or wound a child, he or she becomes a warped or wounded adult who passes on this affliction to the next generation". -Terry Randall in TIME Magazine, October 21, 1991 |
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