Pondering Visiting Pastor Doug Options

[ex3ABNemployee]

Duane, please try to get a grip. The merge isn't about you accusers.

It's abooout spreading the gospel, which is going on despite you all.

Romans 16:17-18

[ex3ABNemployee]

And what is it you think Doug could or would do? I will go through this one more time. There were never any charges filed against TS. No coverup at 3abn ever even came close to being proven, and TS is no longer there and hasn't been for months. So, what would any of this have to do with Doug and AF? Should I even have to add, again, that Doug has been clear that Danny will continue to run 3abn and Doug will continue to run amazing facts. THERE ARE SAFEGUARDS IN PLACE TO ENSURE THAT ONE MINISTRY CAN'T TAKE OVER THE OTHER.

I didn't respond further the first time because I was too upset.

You know NOTHING about the TS situation. PJMusic has every right to talk to DB about this. He was being targeted as a victim. That makes it his business.

I am sick of hearing about no charges being filed. That proves NOTHING.

Tommy admitted what he did in his email to me. Case closed.

[PeacefulBe]

Duane, please try to get a grip. The merge isn't about you accusers, in any way, shape, or form..

It's about becoming more effective in spreading the 3 angls messages, which is going on despite you all.

Cindy,
That is one of the biggest obstacles to the success of this merger, IMO. The very fact that Duane - who TS, in his 2005 email confession, admitted to abusing - and others who have made claims of abuse or made signed statements that they observed signs of abuse and have allowed their testimonies to be made public yet are being ignored by both leading figures in these two ministries by the words of their representative on this and other forums. That Doug is represented as not even caring about checking out these claims because he believes them all to be false is of great concern to me and should be of concern to all who call themselves followers of Christ, no matter what "side" they support.

[princessdi]

Wrong. If Danny is suing someone for libel(sp) or defamation of character, etc. It is for him to prove that they are lying. Not for them to prove that they are telling the truth. The defendants can present what they have, but it is for Danny to refute it, through evidence, not just his word. Question is does Danny really want to truth out about these situations? That is the only way it will be resolved.

You obviously misunderstand. Going to court as about a lawsuit against others that have slandered, lied, accused, etc. The "guilty parties" are the ones in the hot seat in a case like this because they have to prove every allegation they have made, beyond a reasonable doubt, or be held accountable in a court of law. Suits are designed to address certain items and certain individuals. You can certainly bring more than one suit but usually, the causes and people are kept seperate. There are exceptions. In the most winning and clear cut case, it takes months for the attorneys to sludge through the court orders, injunctions, signatures and all the legal mumbo jumbo in general. Once the suit is filed and the papers are served it could drag out in court over years. Very hard on the person being sued and extremely costly for their defense.
Erik you seem a little naive on the court system and more than a little confused on what will be taking place. In this type of suit, 3abn will not have to defend themselves, they are bringing the suit. The ones who have defamed and made false allegations are the ones that will have to defend themselves and if everything that they have said, cannot be proven, they will find themselves in a world of trouble.

[SoulEspresso]

Just making claims again and again doesn't establish them as truth.
Seems to me, merely citing the save 3abn website or even this forum's posts should satisfy the Plaintiffs claims...

But since none of us have been served, that ought to tell you something about proving that these sites are posting falsehoods.

Perhaps some more explanation would help you. If save3abn.com is posting lies, and Danny can show that they're lies, they would have already been sued. IMO. If they're posting the truth, Danny and his platoon of lawyers will have to find a way to discredit the truth.

No lawsuits. The best they could do was send you and Eirene to post on BlackSDA.

And what is it you think Doug could or would do? I will go through this one more time. There were never any charges filed against TS. No coverup at 3abn ever even came close to being proven, and TS is no longer there and hasn't been for months. So, what would any of this have to do with Doug and AF? Should I even have to add, again, that Doug has been clear that Danny will continue to run 3abn and Doug will continue to run amazing facts. THERE ARE SAFEGUARDS IN PLACE TO ENSURE THAT ONE MINISTRY CAN'T TAKE OVER THE OTHER.

Eirene, shame on you.

Do you have firsthand experience with Tommy? PJ and Duane do.

Shame. On. You.