Is Danny Actually Losing His Grip On 3abn?, Could this really be the end of the Shelton regime? Options

[appletree]

Danny will likely be sent out on fundraising trips to the places that he has been successful & remain friendly to him. That won't include southern California, or the west coast.

The effort will be to rehab 3ABN's image to the viewers again... Look for them to put a new face on the programming. Call it "The New 3ABN" or something like that. We won't see Danny on there, or at least not very often. But he will be back.

They will keep Danny away for awhile. But make no mistake, he will still be involved & he, ultimately, will be in control. These new guys will have some autonomy, but no big decision will be finalized without the nod of Danny.

Now these new guys might just be maverick enough to attempt a coup to oust Danny, but this is HIGHLY unlikely.

Danny says he can now "do evangelism" as he stated on their last live show... But in actuality, it's fundraising.

When did Danny ever become an evangelist? Aren't SDA evangelists seminary-trained?

Danny will likely be sent out on fundraising trips...

Actually Danny won't be "sent" anywhere. He will go where he chooses to go.

The effort will be to rehab 3ABN's image to the viewers again... Look for them to put a new face on the programming. Call it "The New 3ABN" or something like that. We won't see Danny on there, or at least not very often. But he will be back.

THis couldn't be farther from the truth, even though you state it as fact. Jim nor anyone else has any interest in fixing what isn't broke. The programming will remain the same as was announced on the 3abn live. There will be no "New 3abn." Also Danny will continue to do his program like always.

but no big decision will be finalized without the nod of Danny.

Of course not. He remains founder and consultant to 3abn and as part of his job he will be consulted on any major decisions. He will keep his same office on the premises.

Now these new guys might just be maverick enough to attempt a coup to oust Danny, but this is HIGHLY unlikely.

These new guys? You obviously don't mean Jim G. since he has made it abundantly clear what his role will be at 3abn. Could you possibly be talking about the new board members that Danny took to the board for approval? The ones that committed to accept their roles as new board members because they support Danny and 3abn? Are those the ones that "might attempt a coup?"

Danny says he can now "do evangelism" as he stated on their last live show... But in actuality, it's fundraising.

When did Danny ever become an evangelist? Aren't SDA evangelists seminary-trained?

Evangelism is fund raising because....you said it is? Wrong again. If Danny wants to fundraise, he has no problems saying so. He has no reason to hide behind the word evangelism and never has.
FYI I know of several evangelistic workers that have never been to a seminary. No telling how many are out there that I am not aquainted with. The Bible says to "go into all the world to preach the gospel." It doesn't say you have to go to the seminary first.

[Pickle]

but no big decision will be finalized without the nod of Danny.

Of course not. He remains founder and consultant to 3abn and as part of his job he will be consulted on any major decisions. He will keep his same office on the premises.

I don't remember the details, but I heard Denzil McNeilus give his testimony about the sale of the family business. He was to remain in some sort of similar position.

Didn't take long at all for them to stop by his desk one day and tell him, "Don't call us. We'll call you." It was something like that. And that was the end of that.

[lowender]

Yes I for one would like to talk about it.
1. Could 3abn be slipping through Danny's fingers?

A. Danny is the one who requested help in the administrative and fund raising elements of 3abn.

2. Gotten the "best" of Danny?

A. How so when Danny requested the help and chose, himself, to take Jim Gilley's name to the board for approval?

Appletree...

None of this stuff would be happening had Danny never dumped his wife then falsely accused her of adultery...

[lowender]

Danny will likely be sent out on fundraising trips...

Actually Danny won't be "sent" anywhere. He will go where he chooses to go.

The effort will be to rehab 3ABN's image to the viewers again... Look for them to put a new face on the programming. Call it "The New 3ABN" or something like that. We won't see Danny on there, or at least not very often. But he will be back.

THis couldn't be farther from the truth, even though you state it as fact. Jim nor anyone else has any interest in fixing what isn't broke. The programming will remain the same as was announced on the 3abn live. There will be no "New 3abn." Also Danny will continue to do his program like always.

but no big decision will be finalized without the nod of Danny.

Of course not. He remains founder and consultant to 3abn and as part of his job he will be consulted on any major decisions. He will keep his same office on the premises.

Now these new guys might just be maverick enough to attempt a coup to oust Danny, but this is HIGHLY unlikely.

These new guys? You obviously don't mean Jim G. since he has made it abundantly clear what his role will be at 3abn. Could you possibly be talking about the new board members that Danny took to the board for approval? The ones that committed to accept their roles as new board members because they support Danny and 3abn? Are those the ones that "might attempt a coup?"

Danny says he can now "do evangelism" as he stated on their last live show... But in actuality, it's fundraising.

When did Danny ever become an evangelist? Aren't SDA evangelists seminary-trained?

Evangelism is fund raising because....you said it is? Wrong again. If Danny wants to fundraise, he has no problems saying so. He has no reason to hide behind the word evangelism and never has.
FYI I know of several evangelistic workers that have never been to a seminary. No telling how many are out there that I am not aquainted with. The Bible says to "go into all the world to preach the gospel." It doesn't say you have to go to the seminary first.

Appletree...

Once again, all this stuff would not be happening had Danny never dumped his wife & accused her of adultery on TV... But was it the lure of a younger woman that made him do all that?

This post has been edited by lowender: Sep 12 2007, 12:56 AM

[Ozzie]

Yes I for one would like to talk about it.
1. Could 3abn be slipping through Danny's fingers?

A. Danny is the one who requested help in the administrative and fund raising elements of 3abn.

I'd heard that 3ABN was so broke that Danny needed another begathon. I guess that's what he does best.

[lowender]

]Actually Danny won't be "sent" anywhere. He will go where he chooses to go.[/color]


Appletree... Will he take the corporate jet that Honest Molly said didn't exist?

[Ozzie]

Of course not. He remains founder and consultant to 3abn and as part of his job he will be consulted on any major decisions. He will keep his same office on the premises.

Do you not mean CO-FOUNDER? Or, don't you deal with the truth any more than Danny does?

[lowender]

"Of course not. He remains FOUNDER and consultant to 3abn"


Appletree...

Be honest with us... Is he truly the only founder of 3ABN?

[beartrap]

Another co-founder of 3ABN whom everyone seems to have forgotten completely is Kenny Shelton. He was very much a co-founder, yet years ago he was shunned and his part in the establishing of 3ABN was ignored until it simply disappeared in the mists of memory. Few people know, anymore, that he helped build 3ABN from the ground up, that he was a prominent speaker, and that he was the vice president before Linda.

This post has been edited by beartrap: Sep 12 2007, 01:35 AM

[Ozzie]

Another co-founder of 3ABN whom everyone seems to have forgotten completely is Kenny Shelton. He was very much a co-founder, yet years ago he was shunned and his part in the establishing of 3ABN was ignored until it simply disappeared in the mists of memory. Few people know, anymore, that he helped build 3ABN from the ground up, that he was a prominent speaker, and that he was the vice president before Linda.

Thank you for bringing that to our attention Bear. I was not around SDA places back then, so was not aware of that part of history.

[Whitey]

How terribly selfish of Mr. D. Shelton to greedily grab the honors of 3ABN founder alone for himself.

Why, yes of course, Br. Kenny Shelton did indeed invest lots and lots of energy and talent building up the ministry way back then.

And all know that the 20 years of service that Linda Shelton invested was vital in building up a needed donor pool of people for money to keep the whole business floating forwards.

Let's never underestimate the power of the mind in self-deceptions.

[Johann]

How terribly selfish of Mr. D. Shelton to greedily grab the honors of 3ABN founder alone for himself.

Why, yes of course, Br. Kenny Shelton did indeed invest lots and lots of energy and talent building up the ministry way back then.

And all know that the 20 years of service that Linda Shelton invested was vital in building up a needed donor pool of people for money to keep the whole business floating forwards.

Let's never underestimate the power of the mind in self-deceptions.

I have never met Kenny. He was in disfavor at 3ABN when I was there. I was told by others there that Kenny made a grave mistake while serving as a vice president. He was always well prepared, did very well, and therefore became too popular with his programs . . .

[justice4jesus]

Now these new guys might just be maverick enough to attempt a coup to oust Danny, but this is HIGHLY unlikely.

These new guys? You obviously don't mean Jim G. since he has made it abundantly clear what his role will be at 3abn. Could you possibly be talking about the new board members that Danny took to the board for approval? The ones that committed to accept their roles as new board members because they support Danny and 3abn? Are those the ones that "might attempt a coup?"

Well, at least we have some sort of evidence that Danny himself "hand-picked" these people. Thank you, Appletree, for the confirmation.

I have no doubt that Danny is doing his best to select people whom he believes will blindly follow his lead. However, regardless of how much of an influence Danny may have on these people, God has a much greater influence than Danny will ever have. If Mr. Gilley and the others indeed have their hearts and minds turned toward God, Danny may very well suddenly find himself back among the "common folk".

It is important to remember this....Danny Shelton is not invincible or untouchable. He isn't! If God wants him out, he's going out. Fact!

[summertime]

Let's see how long it takes before his face is no longer on EVERY page of 3ABN.org. And how long it takes before there is a "founders" page on 3ABN.org, with every founder given proper and appropriate credit.

Danny needs to quit claiming that he is the sole-founder of 3ABN. Linda co-founded 3ABN along with him, and if he keeps this story up he is going to lose any confidence of those who know the truth---and, believe me, the truth is spreading. I really do not know how any man can speak of God the way he does, and continue on with this written and published facade. He needs to rest fitfully each night knowing that he may fool people but he will never fool the God who he claims to serve.

[princessdi]

Danny will likely be sent out on fundraising trips...

Actually Danny won't be "sent" anywhere. He will go where he chooses to go.

The effort will be to rehab 3ABN's image to the viewers again... Look for them to put a new face on the programming. Call it "The New 3ABN" or something like that. We won't see Danny on there, or at least not very often. But he will be back.

THis couldn't be farther from the truth, even though you state it as fact. Jim nor anyone else has any interest in fixing what isn't broke. The programming will remain the same as was announced on the 3abn live. There will be no "New 3abn." Also Danny will continue to do his program like always.

but no big decision will be finalized without the nod of Danny.

Of course not. He remains founder and consultant to 3abn and as part of his job he will be consulted on any major decisions. He will keep his same office on the premises.

Danny is co-founder. That is the very first lie he needs to stop telling. Apparently, he shares the title with two other people. Their absence doesnot negate the fact that they help to ofund 3ABN. It is a lie for Danny to call himself "Founder" when he did nothing by himself. He doesn't get to speak the others out of existence.

Now these new guys might just be maverick enough to attempt a coup to oust Danny, but this is HIGHLY unlikely.

These new guys? You obviously don't mean Jim G. since he has made it abundantly clear what his role will be at 3abn. Could you possibly be talking about the new board members that Danny took to the board for approval? The ones that committed to accept their roles as new board members because they support Danny and 3abn? Are those the ones that "might attempt a coup?"

Danny says he can now "do evangelism" as he stated on their last live show... But in actuality, it's fundraising.

When did Danny ever become an evangelist? Aren't SDA evangelists seminary-trained?

Evangelism is fund raising because....you said it is? Wrong again. If Danny wants to fundraise, he has no problems saying so. He has no reason to hide behind the word evangelism and never has.
FYI I know of several evangelistic workers that have never been to a seminary. No telling how many are out there that I am not aquainted with. The Bible says to "go into all the world to preach the gospel." It doesn't say you have to go to the seminary first.


Ok, a question, Appletree. You and the other's claim that no one is telling you anything in regard to what you post here. Not trying to ascertain your identity(fishing expiditions are off limits here "-) ), but more your authority and credibility, becuase you claim not to have gotten your info from anyone else. We have members here who are annonymous, however, have given some evidence of their authority and credibility to speak to any number of areas concerning 3ABN. Are you someone who would have first hand access to this information such as that you have just posted in this post? Example: How do you know for a fact that there is no plan to change the programming, or any kind of revamping for that matter? Once again not trying to get you to divulge anything about your identity or even your precise association with Danny or anyone at 3ABN. Just wanting to know how you can speak with apparent authority on these subjects, without being told the details by another party, maybe someone who is directly involved. Example: Because there are many employees at 3ABN, you could say that you were close to an employee without revealing your identity. That repsonse would satisfactorily answer my question. As I said it goes more to the authority and credibility with which you speak. I guess I ask, because you already gave us a kind of clue when you posted to HOTY, saying you were at the meeting.