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post Jun 9 2006, 05:49 PM
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QUOTE(sister @ Jun 8 2006, 06:33 PM) [snapback]134041[/snapback]

Johann, let me repeat all of this back to you to make sure we understand what is taking place inside this “Jewelry Store”:

When the Jeweler (Danny Shelton) builds his own SDA church (the 3ABN Worship Center), hires a pastor to suit his whims (John Lomacang), who preaches what he (Danny) wants to hear, and to issue church discipline to whomever he wants to curtail (Linda Shelton, etc.), and then he manages to place his general store manager (Mollie Steenson, 3ABN General Manager) on the Conference (Illinois SDA Conference Board) Board, he uses money (donations) earned in his jewelry store (3ABN) to pay for the campaign of his chosen people to be leaders and officers on different leadership levels in the Church (current Illinois Conference President and current NAD President?, etc.) - who is there to discipline your jeweler (Danny Shelton)?

A question on one point: what could possibly qualify Mollie Steenson to sit on the Illinois Conference Board? She has only been a member of the SDA church for less than six years. She has made comments that she became a Seventh-day Adventist not because of E. G. White or the Sabbath, but because 3ABN is the cutting edge ministry. Is it possible that Danny is now attempting to stack the Illinois Conference Board as he has the 3ABN Board? Johann, you have been a churchman for many years. Does this sound as suspicious to you as it does to me?


Johann, you may have not seen the above, so I am still wondering what you think not only about Mollie Steenson on the Illinois Conference Board, but also about her part in the scheme of things at 3ABN?



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QUOTE(sister @ Jun 9 2006, 06:49 PM) [snapback]134159[/snapback]

Johann, you may have not seen the above, so I am still wondering what you think not only about Mollie Steenson on the Illinois Conference Board, but also about her part in the scheme of things at 3ABN?

Well, as was previously mentioned, if anything drastic happens, 3ABN goes to the Illinois conference... at least that is how it was laid out in the charter.
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QUOTE(beartrap @ Jun 9 2006, 06:42 PM) [snapback]134164[/snapback]

Well, as was previously mentioned, if anything drastic happens, 3ABN goes to the Illinois conference... at least that is how it was laid out in the charter.

so thats why that conference president is on the board....


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post Jul 5 2006, 09:03 AM
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his chosen people to be leaders and officers on different leadership levels in the Church (current Illinois Conference President and current NAD President?, etc.
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"...current NAD President..."---You mean Don Schneider is under Danny's comtrol?
doesn't sound likely.

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QUOTE(beartrap @ Jun 9 2006, 06:42 PM) [snapback]134164[/snapback]

Well, as was previously mentioned, if anything drastic happens, 3ABN goes to the Illinois conference... at least that is how it was laid out in the charter.

I admit to not having seen the whole wording. But from the excerpt that I saw I gathered that this was probably a provision as to what to do on the occasion the death of the owner. For it speaks of the possibility of the board not being able to handle the operation of it, and in that case it would go to the Illinois Conference. Since the board does not "handle the operation" in any direct sense of the word now, I cannot see this as giving the board the authority to hand it over to the Illinois Conference for any other reason than that of Danny's demise.

QUOTE(Clay @ Jul 4 2006, 06:53 PM) [snapback]137542[/snapback]

so thats why that conference president is on the board....

I don't think there is a direct link between this and that. I think we have pretty well established that this conference president is on Danny's board because he is a Danny supporter and follower and has family ties into 3ABN as well. Whether there is a provision in the charter for whoever happens to be Illinois Conference President to be on the 3ABN board--I don't know, but I kinda doubt it, given that Danny is the one who handpicks his board members.

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"...current NAD President..."---You mean Don Schneider is under Danny's comtrol?
doesn't sound likely.

Bill

What we know on this topic is that Danny has bragged about Garwin affecting the choice of NAD presidential outcome, using the term "we" in describing that as a victory. We also know that Schneider has been a long-time supporter and admirer of 3ABN and supposedly of Danny Shelton since he is considered to "be" 3ABN. We also know that Danny has made overt attempts through the years (some successful and some not) to "buy" various persons who because of their positions of influence or reputations he saw as valuable to himself. We should not think in terms of a "deal" in which the persons being "bought" were aware that Danny was setting up this type of relationship with them. But whether or not they were aware of it, there are a great many persons in NAD and GC as well who consider it too dangerous to cross Danny -- including ways that include overtly lessening the dependency relationship that has been set up with 3ABN by utilizing their facilities to air SDA programming. And then there are some that are still "true believers" in both Danny and 3ABN.

Where Schneider falls in that range of attitudes, I really do not know, beyond the fact that he has actively supported Danny through the years, and at last report still did so.


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QUOTE(watchbird @ Jul 5 2006, 08:30 AM) [snapback]137610[/snapback]

What we know on this topic is that Danny has bragged about Garwin affecting the choice of NAD presidential outcome, using the term "we" in describing that as a victory. We also know that Schneider has been a long-time supporter and admirer of 3ABN and supposedly of Danny Shelton since he is considered to "be" 3ABN. We also know that Danny has made overt attempts through the years (some successful and some not) to "buy" various persons who because of their positions of influence or reputations he saw as valuable to himself. We should not think in terms of a "deal" in which the persons being "bought" were aware that Danny was setting up this type of relationship with them. But whether or not they were aware of it, there are a great many persons in NAD and GC as well who consider it too dangerous to cross Danny -- including ways that include overtly lessening the dependency relationship that has been set up with 3ABN by utilizing their facilities to air SDA programming. And then there are some that are still "true believers" in both Danny and 3ABN.

Where Schneider falls in that range of attitudes, I really do not know, beyond the fact that he has actively supported Danny through the years, and at last report still did so.


What we also know is that while the leaders in the church stand by and don't take a stand when they see things that should not be let go, that too is to "support" Danny. Many leaders know what is truth, and choose not to be involved because 3abn is NOT the sda church. So, it's really none of the sda church business (so I have been told). But to do nothing when you know you can do something, and more importantly collectively do something, even unofficial, is to also support Danny. No two ways about it. no.gif (am I sounding redundant here? oops! doh.gif )


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