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post Aug 19 2006, 06:11 AM
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Did we cover this guy? I can't remember what thread it was.... anyway, I am borrowing this from a new member from the maritime forum and it may give some more insight into Mr. Shelton's mindset.....

Garwin McNeilus

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I know Garwin. (not up and close personallike, but I know enough of him). It's his way or the highway. He handpicks pastors and if they don't preach what he wants them to preach, if the unfortunate fellow doesnt support his ideas, then he has them removed. A pastor was selected from Amazing Facts to serve in "his" church. Things went along smoothly at first, had a few revival meetings but after a year or two this pastor was wanting to strike out on his own to do some other projects in the community. Garwin would have none of it. Soon afterwards, our pastor was gone. Garwin had recommended to the Mn. conference that he have a psychiatric exam done. (sounds a little like Danny's tactics)
Nominating committe was a treat. He and his family had already decided who should serve in what area. One of the persons put in a prominent place in leadership was a fellow who had allegations of "inappropriate behaviour" in a past church. But as you know, people who are suspected of such wrongdoing are shuffled to other churches, to let them deal with the problem. But I digress. Garwin picked him because he likes the way he teaches, and this fellow has been "chosen" to take our new pastor under his wing.
In short, Garwin is someone who likes to have "yes men" surround him. If you disagree with him, you may find your life made miserable.


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post Aug 20 2006, 10:29 AM
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QUOTE(Clay @ Aug 19 2006, 07:11 AM) [snapback]146212[/snapback]

Did we cover this guy? I can't remember what thread it was.... anyway, I am borrowing this from a new member from the maritime forum and it may give some more insight into Mr. Shelton's mindset.....

Garwin McNeilus


When I read that post last night, I was thinking, "This sounds just like Danny Shelton." If his main financial supporter has that kind of a mindset, no wonder Danny is like that.
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QUOTE(inga @ Aug 20 2006, 10:29 AM) [snapback]146643[/snapback]

When I read that post last night, I was thinking, "This sounds just like Danny Shelton." If his main financial supporter has that kind of a mindset, no wonder Danny is like that.

my thoughts exactly.... which is why I posted it....


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post Aug 20 2006, 11:22 AM
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...apples don't fall far away from said trees.....

I'm jes sayin..... dunno.gif

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Things went along smoothly at first, had a few revival meetings but after a year or two this pastor was wanting to strike out on his own to do some other projects in the community. Garwin would have none of it. Soon afterwards, our pastor was gone. Garwin had recommended to the Mn. conference that he have a psychiatric exam done. (sounds a little like Danny's tactics)


Let me see if I understand the above statement:

1. The Minnesota pastor is gone.

2. A psychiatric "exam" for this Minnesota pastor was recommended to the Minnesota Conference of Seventh-day Adventists.

I read in the letters that 3ABN demanded that Linda Shelton go to a counselor of their choice. She was never told what type of "counselor" it was, was she? I'm just guessing that she was not.




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This is the guy in the "Telelvangelist" with the money, and met recently with Paulsen, to "encourage" him to continue to support Danny and 3ABN, or else the mission funds would dry up.
I am not surprised. Haw(How, for those ebonically challenged), you going to call yourself God's Remnant, and you yourself are the corruption at the highest level?


QUOTE(Clay @ Aug 19 2006, 05:11 AM) [snapback]146212[/snapback]

Did we cover this guy? I can't remember what thread it was.... anyway, I am borrowing this from a new member from the maritime forum and it may give some more insight into Mr. Shelton's mindset.....

Garwin McNeilus


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QUOTE(princessdi @ Aug 20 2006, 02:03 PM) [snapback]146725[/snapback]

This is the guy in the "Telelvangelist" with the money, and met recently with Paulsen, to "encourage" him to continue to support Danny and 3ABN, or else the mission funds would dry up.
I am not surprised. Haw(How, for those ebonically challenged), you going to call yourself God's Remnant, and you yourself are the corruption at the highest level?



He is also in the Unauthorized History threads, he shows up the first time in Chapter 4 in post number 67, A Man of Influence...

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post Aug 20 2006, 03:08 PM
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So, did he actually apply presssure to the GC Conference President as the story suggests?


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QUOTE(Daryl Fawcett @ Aug 20 2006, 04:08 PM) [snapback]146748[/snapback]

So, did he actually apply presssure to the GC Conference President as the story suggests?


That is what Danny Shelton claims. He was present in the room at the time. There were also other witnesses there, this was when Folkenberg was GC President.
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So we are talking about something way back and prior to the Danny-Linda incident?


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Now, I am sure those who know the timeline will answer, and I understand your question as it pertains to current events However, Daryl, it is more than a problem for me that it happened at all.
QUOTE(Daryl Fawcett @ Aug 20 2006, 06:25 PM) [snapback]146835[/snapback]

So we are talking about something way back and prior to the Danny-Linda incident?



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QUOTE(sister @ Aug 20 2006, 07:37 PM) [snapback]146829[/snapback]

That is what Danny Shelton claims. He was present in the room at the time. There were also other witnesses there, this was when Folkenberg was GC President.

If you don't think Danny's word can be trusted, why are you taking his word on this one? Aren't you being inconsistent?
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QUOTE(Pickle @ Aug 20 2006, 09:05 PM) [snapback]146842[/snapback]

If you don't think Danny's word can be trusted, why are you taking his word on this one? Aren't you being inconsistent?


I am not being inconsistent, I said that there were also other witnesses to this incident. For the purpose of the narrative and to show the relationship between Danny and Garwin McNeilus, I included Danny's perspective as he related the incident.

QUOTE(Daryl Fawcett @ Aug 20 2006, 08:25 PM) [snapback]146835[/snapback]

So we are talking about something way back and prior to the Danny-Linda incident?


Yes, PM Watchbird, she posted a number of documents pertaining to this situation, I no longer remember exactly in which thread. If anyone has the desire to track down other sources pertaining to this incident, these documents will give some possibilities. Of course, you could contact Elder Folkenberg directly, my understanding is that he does have a website.

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Is Garwin McNeilus still supporting Danny Shelton in the same way today as he was back then considering the situation now?


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QUOTE(Panama_Pete @ Aug 20 2006, 02:54 PM) [snapback]146724[/snapback]

Let me see if I understand the above statement:

1. The Minnesota pastor is gone.

2. A psychiatric "exam" for this Minnesota pastor was recommended to the Minnesota Conference of Seventh-day Adventists.

I read in the letters that 3ABN demanded that Linda Shelton go to a counselor of their choice. She was never told what type of "counselor" it was, was she? I'm just guessing that she was not.

I think she knew who the counselors primarily were. The problem was that she was expected to go to them to admit to a problem she did not have, which she did not want to do because she did not have that problem.

I don't know anything of the Garwin case, but in Linda's, Danny was actively in the process of convincing EVERYONE that Linda had committed "spiritual adultery", including the "counselors". Much has been said here about Danny, his personality, his authority, etc. But you really have to know him personally to know just how persistent he can be. His endurance to talk continually for hours and hours (literally) just wears people down. I think he has done this a lot to garner support regarding the issues we are discussing here.
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