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Lucyladye
post Aug 19 2006, 03:41 PM
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oops.gif Sorry....I mis-spoke.....there is a difference between ignorance and stupidity....
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QUOTE(Lucyladye @ Aug 19 2006, 02:41 PM) [snapback]146346[/snapback]

oops.gif Sorry....I mis-spoke.....there is a difference between ignorance and stupidity....


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post Aug 19 2006, 03:44 PM
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Dear Friends,

From my keen observations and discoveries regarding the atrocities and misunderstandings pertaining to our dear 3ABN, let me remind you all that God requires us to respect authority. It may be true the our dear brother may have made some misguided choices in some regards, and certainly may not be perfect in all respects; however, he is the appointed spokesman for the Face of Adventism, and much good has been accomplished thoughout the world.

We need not naysay those who feed the truth to hungry souls through the miracle of modern technology.

Just remember, after all is said and done, much is said and little done.

It is not easy to have such a grave responsibility as a spokesperson for such a respected ministry as 3ABN; however, let us appreciate, love, restore, respect and support those who are battling for souls.
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post Aug 19 2006, 03:53 PM
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QUOTE(J. Fitzhume @ Aug 19 2006, 03:44 PM) [snapback]146348[/snapback]

Dear Friends,

From my keen observations and discoveries regarding the atrocities and misunderstandings pertaining to our dear 3ABN, let me remind you all that God requires us to respect authority. It may be true the our dear brother may have made some misguided choices in some regards, and certainly may not be perfect in all respects; however, he is the appointed spokesman for the Face of Adventism, and much good has been accomplished thoughout the world.

We need not naysay those who feed the truth to hungry souls through the miracle of modern technology.

Just remember, after all is said and done, much is said and little done.

It is not easy to have such a grave responsibility as a spokesperson for such a respected ministry as 3ABN; however, let us appreciate, love, restore, respect and support those who are battling for souls.


welcome to the forum.... no one appointed Mr. Shelton as the face of adventism.... he took that mantle upon himself... and as my grandfather once said, if you hand a person a stick don't be surprised if they hit you in the head with it... Mr. Shelton has been handing out sticks... for some time..... I guess he is getting his "spiritual beatdown...."

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post Aug 19 2006, 03:54 PM
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[quote]let us appreciate, love, restore, respect and support those who are battling for souls.
Have we not been doing this? notworthy.gif
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QUOTE(J. Fitzhume @ Aug 19 2006, 04:44 PM) [snapback]146348[/snapback]

Dear Friends,

...he is the appointed spokesman for the Face of Adventism, and much good has been accomplished thoughout the world.



I agree completely. Who needs a SDA Church when we've already got the appointed spokesperson in Thompsonville, Illinois?

How much cash do you think we can get when we sell the Silver Spring real estate? I say we put the General Conference on the market no later than October. roflmao.gif




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post Aug 19 2006, 04:02 PM
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Who appointed him? Do you know who he is?
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post Aug 19 2006, 04:19 PM
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let us appreciate, love, restore, respect and support those who are battling for souls.
Have we not been doing this?


Have you all been doing this? Umm, let me think.

NO.

I see a man victimized who is probably innocent and largely free of blame. Sundry accusations, albeit ever so colorful, do not a villian make.
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QUOTE(J. Fitzhume @ Aug 19 2006, 04:19 PM) [snapback]146370[/snapback]

Have you all been doing this? Umm, let me think.

NO.

I see a man victimized who is probably innocent and largely free of blame. Sundry accusations, albeit ever so colorful, do not a villian make.

Mr. Fitzhume.... this is blacksda... it is NOT sabbath school.... here we pay attention.... yes.gif


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QUOTE(Lucyladye @ Aug 19 2006, 05:02 PM) [snapback]146362[/snapback]

Who appointed him? Do you know who he is?



We do not appoint. God appoints. It is not ours to question His lead, is it.

Why can't we all just work together for the better good of all. Even if guilty of all said, he is still the appointed face of adventism, is he not.
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QUOTE(J. Fitzhume @ Aug 19 2006, 05:22 PM) [snapback]146375[/snapback]

We do not appoint. God appoints. It is not ours to question His lead, is it.

Why can't we all just work together for the better good of all. Even if guilty of all said, he is still the appointed face of adventism, is he not.

nope he aint... and you saying it in chorus with him saying it will not make it so..... unless of course you have on your ruby slippers and are clicking your heels repeatedly.....

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QUOTE(Clay @ Aug 19 2006, 05:25 PM) [snapback]146377[/snapback]

nope he aint... and you saying it in chorus with him saying it will not make it so..... unless of course you have on your ruby slippers and are clicking your heels repeatedly.....

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In this regard, your picture is most appropriate, as souls are indeed at stake, son. At my age, I have seen many rise and many fall, but those who endure will go through. 3ABN has endured. Despite the plethera of doubt, 3ABN endures. Despite the benedictions of contempt, 3ABN endures. Despite the hurricanes of obiquitous redundancy of remarks, 3ABN endures.

It will endure, and I believe in this movement.
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QUOTE(J. Fitzhume @ Aug 19 2006, 04:32 PM) [snapback]146384[/snapback]

In this regard, your picture is most appropriate, as souls are indeed at stake, son. At my age, I have seen many rise and many fall, but those who endure will go through. 3ABN has endured. Despite the plethera of doubt, 3ABN endures. Despite the benedictions of contempt, 3ABN endures. Despite the hurricanes of obiquitous redundancy of remarks, 3ABN endures.

It will endure, and I believe in this movement.

sounds like you have overdosed on Metamucil....
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but if that is keeping you ummmm regular, more power to ya....


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There is spiritualism in penecostoal chruches? This is new to me? Attending those services is no more dangerous than reading Kay Kuzma's columns which you admit contain errored teachings. You are either convicted of the truth or you are not. It is about your relationship with God, not making sure you get your weekly indoctrination shot. Come on people!


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Hi Jvat. Thanks for the welcome. Kay Kuzma's columns in the Review have given wrong messages. In one, she implicitly supported the situation in which kids were told by thier Sabbath School leaders to bring rakes to church. After church they went out in the neighborhood and raked leaves for people, thus teaching children that "doing good on the Sabbath" is OK. If I recall, someone had written in to ask if that was wrong. The question needed a clear and direct answer that Kuzma did not give.

Another time a new Adventist woman had written to complain that services were boring in the SDA church she was attending. She said she missed the services in Her previous denomination, which she described as having modern music and more upbeat, enthusiastic services. It sounded like a Pentecostal type church. The lady said she was thinking of attending her former Sunday church that she enjoyed so much. Kuzma encouraged her to do so as long as she didn't give up keeping the Sabbath. Kuzma said she also enjoyed a more charismatic (not her word) service as well.

My point is that it is dangerous to willingly and knowingly attend services where error is taught. Especially spiritualism as in the Pentecostal churches, and most of the Evangelicas for that matter.



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One might believe 3ABN endures....but remember God is in control. as-if.gif

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