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post Aug 29 2006, 07:58 PM
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I was asked today: Would Christ join the 3-ABN lynch mob?

Is this a valid question?

It reminds me to t he ago old question, "Have you stopped beating your wife?" Neither a "yes," nor a "no" might accurately answer that question. One who has never beaten his wife, could only give a "no."

The 3-ABN question begins with a word that is associated with the absence of law. I reminds us of the days of slavery in the United States, when people were denied any semblance of justice solely on the basis of the color of their skin. It implies extreme prejudice. Truth and justice are absent from consideration.

The question attaches all of the above to those who are raising issues regarding 3-ABN.

The person who asked that question of me likely believes that what she or he sees on the surface is all that is present. What is seen on the surface is only the tip of the iceberg. Beneath the surface of the water, there are those working quietly, within denominational channels, and outside of such, to effect a change in the 3-ABN situation.

All that is asked for by the vast multitude of people concerned about this, is that God will work to restore truth and justice. Their cry has been echoed in the passage found in Revelation 6:9-10.

No, Christ would never join a lynch mob. The people who raise their voice in protest over the injustice that they see, are simply responding to what they believe is the call of God.

It would be far easier for them to remain silent. But, it is their commitment to Christ that leads them to speak.

All of them are human. They may not speak perfectly. They may be wrong. But, they respond to a call to act, and not sit silent in a time of injustice.

All would gladly sit back and allow others who have the power to do so to settle these issues in more traditional venues. They would be glad for objective denominational authorities.to investigate, and act, if they believed the power rested with those authorities. They would be glad for the civil authorities to act, if that would happen.

Until such happens, the people can only cry out against the wrong that the believe are happening.
That cry is in response to what they believe is the call of God, and not a response to a lynch mob.

The person who asked that question of me, simply does not understand the issues, what is going on, and what is happening behind the scenes.

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post Aug 29 2006, 08:08 PM
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QUOTE(Observer @ Aug 29 2006, 07:58 PM) [snapback]148816[/snapback]

I was asked today: Would Christ join the 3-ABN lynch mob?



If you're talking about the lynching of Linda Shelton, the answer is "no."

The people asking those questions had expected Danny Shelton to carry on business as usual, I think, without skipping a beat.

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QUOTE(Panama_Pete @ Aug 30 2006, 04:08 AM) [snapback]148820[/snapback]

If you're talking about the lynching of Linda Shelton, the answer is "no."

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Linda met the resemblance of a lynching mob in the Thompsonville Seventh-day Adventis Church when she had requested having her membership transferred to another church.


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post Aug 31 2006, 07:27 PM
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AS I recall, "a lynch mob" hangs people who are NOT guilty, just because they don't LIKE the person.
Are you referring to the "lynch mob" who work for the "Televangelist"?
Where was the "lynch mob" when Jesus cast the money-changers and animal dealers were thrown out of the temple in Jerusalem? They "WERE" the lynch mob.
Or maybe, the reprimand directed toward the Pharisees and Sadducees and the Scribes in the word, "You generation of vipers ...".
Words spoken in truth are not a lynching. They are an expose'? They are a call to abandon the ways of evil. To stop mocking God!
"Know ye not that by the words you judge you shall be judged" the judgement cast upon Linda and others is coming back to become the very basis for the judgement coming upon THEM. The punishment ye have dealt shall be dealt SEVEN-FOLD upon you". it seems.
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Why is asking Danny, and his people to answer the charges against them a lynch mob? Danny has been told several times and ways he can quiet all of this talk, including Calvin offering to foot the bill for an indipendent investgation. Fact is, he is wrong, and as long as he is wrong, people are going to be asking him about those things which he has done wrong.


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post Jan 27 2007, 03:58 PM
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Danny Shelton and those who work at 3abn should expect to receive backlashes from Danny's seperation from Linda. After seeing Danny and Linda Shelton on TV for so long and then to hear of their seperation causes questions to arise in one's mind. The first question is 'why'. Then one begins to wonder who is at fault. This is only human nature, whether it be right or wrong. When you are in a high position of trust, persons usually sometimes find negative stuff to say, but when you have seperated from your wife and the grounds seem to be unclear, you have opened up a whole can of worms.
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QUOTE(princessdi @ Aug 31 2006, 11:55 PM) [snapback]149160[/snapback]

Why is asking Danny, and his people to answer the charges against them a lynch mob? Danny has been told several times and ways he can quiet all of this talk, including Calvin offering to foot the bill for an indipendent investgation. Fact is, he is wrong, and as long as he is wrong, people are going to be asking him about those things which he has done wrong.

That sums it up dead on pernt!
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QUOTE(princessdi @ Aug 31 2006, 10:55 PM) [snapback]149160[/snapback]

Why is asking Danny, and his people to answer the charges against them a lynch mob? Danny has been told several times and ways he can quiet all of this talk, including Calvin offering to foot the bill for an indipendent investgation. Fact is, he is wrong, and as long as he is wrong, people are going to be asking him about those things which he has done wrong.


You're right...that's why Danny and his apologists use smoke and mirrors to try and distract people from the real issues, even when they're faced with first hand accounts from family members and ex-3ABN employees...they figure if they throw around enough "Danny's really the victim" stories then may the questionsn will stop...I don't think they factored in the fact that at BSDA this is not Sabbath School and we pay attention!!!


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Is it a general consences that Danny has all the faults and Linda doesn't have any faults. I believe Linda has some faults.
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post Feb 3 2007, 04:04 PM
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QUOTE(Treniece @ Feb 3 2007, 03:06 PM) [snapback]175082[/snapback]

Is it a general consences that Danny has all the faults and Linda doesn't have any faults. I believe Linda has some faults.


Treniece, we ALL have faults, that goes without saying and can be assumed in the case of every human being. "All have sinned and fallen short of the Glory of God."

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QUOTE(sister @ Feb 3 2007, 03:04 PM) [snapback]175122[/snapback]

Treniece, we ALL have faults, that goes without saying and can be assumed in the case of every human being. "All have sinned and fallen short of the Glory of God."

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All have sinned and hurt themselves in the process. Unfortunately, some have sinned and hurt others as well.


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QUOTE(PeacefullyBewildered @ Feb 3 2007, 08:00 PM) [snapback]175156[/snapback]

All have sinned and hurt themselves in the process. Unfortunately, some have sinned and hurt others as well.


You are right here PB. It isn't about who has sinned. What matters is who has repented. We all have hurt others, most often unintentionally. When an honest hearted person realizes they have hurt another, they take responsibility for what they have done, and make restitution if at all possible.

So, once again, it is about the fruits of one's life. What are the fruits of the lives of those in question?

I do not believe that anyone here on this fourm would refuse to grant forgiveness if there were genuine repentance. (which involves turning away from sin) People who are self decieved can not accept forgiveness, because they don't think they need it.

Wanting the 3abn mess to be cleaned up does not mean that one is against 3abn or the leadership there.

Let me add my voice to others here, Thank you Duane for coming forward, and welcome.

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QUOTE(PeacefullyBewildered @ Feb 3 2007, 08:00 PM) [snapback]175156[/snapback]

All have sinned and hurt themselves in the process. Unfortunately, some have sinned and hurt others as well.
And God forgives all when we confess and repent.

However, we're not doing anyone a favor to tell them they're just fine in their sins and don't need to confess and repent. Not only does this cause further harm to others but harm also to those who do the sinning/abusing.

"There is a way that seems right to man, but the end thereof is death."
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QUOTE(princessdi @ Aug 31 2006, 09:55 PM) [snapback]149160[/snapback]

Why is asking Danny, and his people to answer the charges against them a lynch mob? Danny has been told several times and ways he can quiet all of this talk, including Calvin offering to foot the bill for an indipendent investgation. Fact is, he is wrong, and as long as he is wrong, people are going to be asking him about those things which he has done wrong.



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I guess asking would be one thing. . . . but the accusations have maybe went above and beyond your pocket. By the way Danny and Linda may be public figures BUT Tommy is not, was not, he was only an employee there.


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QUOTE(eye witness @ Feb 4 2007, 12:16 AM) [snapback]175177[/snapback]

I guess asking would be one thing. . . . but the accusations have maybe went above and beyond your pocket. By the way Danny and Linda may be public figures BUT Tommy is not, was not, he was only an employee there.

I ain't asking. I'm stating with boldness.... TOMMY SHELTON HAD SEX WITH A CHILD (and since it was proven that he did...)HE IS A MOLESTER AND ONE WHO COMMITTED SEXUAL ASSAULT ON A CHILD.

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Again I ask...since you popped in EyeWitness - Would you allow Tommy Shelton to babysit your children w/o supervision? With supervision? On an "overnight" sleepover?

BTW: IF Tommy Shelton was ever on 3ABN Television - before a camera.... EVER. He IS IN FACT A PUBLIC FIGURE.


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