Tommy "retires" Options

[gracetoyou]

Danny just announced on 3ABN that Tommy is "retiring" from his duties at 3ABN. The reasons given were 1) that the "stress" of his duties at 3ABN was aggravating his "health" problems (high cholesterol, etc.) of which he has a history and 2) the fact that he was nearing retirement age anyway.

Could this be one of the "changes" that were predicted?

A 3ABN employee gave a testimonial of the wonderful experiences of working under Tommy which was very touching.

[Pickle]

Danny just announced on 3ABN that Tommy is "retiring" from his duties at 3ABN. The reasons given were 1) that the "stress" of his duties at 3ABN was aggravating his "health" problems (high cholesterol, etc.) of which he has a history and 2) the fact that he was nearing retirement age anyway.

Could this be one of the "changes" that were predicted?

A 3ABN employee gave a testimonial of the wonderful experiences of working under Tommy which was very touching.

As pointed out at http://www.blacksda.com/forums/index.php?s...st&p=166852, it would be helpful to find out what sort of retirement package he will receive, if any. According to Gailon, the decision of the board to terminate Tommy was circumvented in the early 1990's by hiring Tommy on a contract basis.

Also, I think it would be helpful to get a transcript of the actual remarks made.

If these were the reasons given, I have a problem with that. If Danny wants to make such remarks in a meeting of his employees, that's fine. But to trumpet such things over the airwaves around the globe, what's the point?

Why send off an alleged child molester with such a glorious fanfare when not three years ago there was no such glorious fanfare for an alleged adultress?

Sin is sin. All sin is despicable. But how can the remnant that keeps the commandments of God, as the 3rd angel's message that 3ABN stands for and is named for puts it, how can the remnant applaud an alleged child molester and condemn an alleged adultress? Would that not be remotely akin to sending a shoplifter to death row while putting a bank robber in charge of company finances?

This post has been edited by Pickle: Dec 31 2006, 10:42 PM

[Grace]

As pointed out at http://www.blacksda.com/forums/index.php?s...st&p=166852, it would be helpful to find out what sort of retirement package he will receive, if any. According to Gailon, the decision of the board to terminate Tommy was circumvented in the early 1990's by hiring Tommy on a contract basis.

Also, I think it would be helpful to get a transcript of the actual remarks made.

If these were the reasons given, I have a problem with that. If Danny wants to make such remarks in a meeting of his employees, that's fine. But to trumpet such things over the airwaves around the globe, what's the point?

Why send off an alleged child molester with such a glorious fanfare when not three years ago there was no such glorious fanfare for an alleged adultress?

Sin is sin. All sin is despicable. But how can the remnant that keeps the commandments of God, as the 3rd angel's message that 3ABN stands for and is named for puts it, how can the remnant applaud an alleged child molester and condemn an alleged adultress? Would that not be remotely akin to sending a shoplifter to death row while putting a bank robber in charge of company finances?

Those are also my feelings and thoughts. I have a problem with the lack of fairness here.

Blessings to all for this new year!

This post has been edited by Grace: Jan 1 2007, 03:23 AM

[Ed White]

Well with Tommy "retireing" it appears as if “ the sinners in Zion are afraid” Isaiah 33:14
Of all the sermons & bible texts read on 3ABN I never heard anyone mention these 6 condition to escape “the everlasting burnings”. I will list these 6 conditions in brackets so that those remaining on the 3ABN board can make proper decisions from here on out before the lame take the prey and divide the spoils.
"Hear, ye that are afar off, what I have done; and, ye that are near, acknowledge my might. The sinners in Zion are afraid; fearfulness hath surprised the hypocrites. Who among us shall dwell with the devouring fire? who among us shall dwell with everlasting burnings? [#1.Right doing] He that walketh righteously, and [2. tell the truth] speaketh uprightly; [3.] he that despiseth the gain of oppressions, that [4.No gag orders & such] shaketh his hands from holding of bribes, that [5.] stoppeth his ears from hearing of blood, and [6.] shutteth his eyes from seeing evil; he shall dwell on high; his place of defense shall be the munitions of rocks; bread shall be given him; his waters shall be sure. Thine eyes shall see the King in his beauty; they shall behold the land that is very far off." "But there the glorious Lord will be unto us a place of broad rivers and streams; wherein shall go no galley with oars, neither shall gallant ship pass thereby. For the Lord is our Judge, the Lord is our Lawgiver, the Lord is our King; he will save us. Thy tacklings are loosed; they could not well strengthen their mast; they could not spread the sail: then is the prey of a great spoil divided; the lame take the prey. And the inhabitant shall not say, I am sick; the people that dwell therein shall be forgiven their iniquity." Isaiah 33
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There are two ships above trying to reach a safe harbor, the one that fails to meet those 6 conditions above will break up sooner or later.

[Pickle]

Danny just announced on 3ABN that Tommy is "retiring" from his duties at 3ABN. The reasons given were 1) that the "stress" of his duties at 3ABN was aggravating his "health" problems (high cholesterol, etc.) of which he has a history and ...

Are you absolutely positive that Danny said this? If so, does anyone have a recording or a transcript?

I can't imagine Danny telling the world that allegedly molesting children in Virginia and Illinois while pastoring non-Adventist churches was part of Tommy's duties at 3ABN. No, I can't accept as a fact that he really said such unless I can see the evidence for myself. Recording or transcript please.

[gardener]

Are you absolutely positive that Danny said this? If so, does anyone have a recording or a transcript?

I can't imagine Danny telling the world that allegedly molesting children in Virginia and Illinois while pastoring non-Adventist churches was part of Tommy's duties at 3ABN. No, I can't accept as a fact that he really said such unless I can see the evidence for myself. Recording or transcript please.

From what I understood from the program Tommy has been working in capacity of Production Manager for the past few years. Tommy was on the show also and after everyone gave their
testimony about how wonderful Tommy was they all gathered around him and gave him a plaque of his 11 years of service at 3ABN. He said he was going to go to Black Hills to get back to better health. Moses, Dee, Molly and someone else gave their testimony. I thought for a moment they were all going to gather around and sing kum by a (or how ever you spell it).

[gracetoyou]

Are you absolutely positive that Danny said this? If so, does anyone have a recording or a transcript?

I can't imagine Danny telling the world that allegedly molesting children in Virginia and Illinois while pastoring non-Adventist churches was part of Tommy's duties at 3ABN. No, I can't accept as a fact that he really said such unless I can see the evidence for myself. Recording or transcript please.

Danny didn't mention anything about molesting children. He did say that Tommy's production duties were stressful ( he definitely used the word "stress", I believe several times) and that the stress wasn't good for his health condition (high cholesterol). Danny mentioned that Tommy had previously been to the Black Hills medical center for treatment for his heart condition. He was also nearing retirement age so they were going to use this opportunity to announce his retirement.

I was going in and out of my living room doing housework, so I didn't catch the whole program.
I did see a male employee telling about how Tommy allowed employees who couldn't eat their lunch during their allotted 30 minute lunch break to combine their "break" time with their lunch time so that they would have 45 minutes to eat their lunch. Tommy is, apparently, all heart. He also mentioned something about employees being paid minimum wage, but I didn't catch what that was in reference to.

The program was a "special" New Year's Eve program that was broadcast after 9:00 P.M. EST. I didn't watch the entire broadcast, so I can't tell you exactly when that segment came on. I believe it was fairly early in the broadcast.

Danny also mentioned that just because Tommy was retiring, it did not mean that Tommy would not come back from time to time in a volunteer capacity.

There was also a promo about Tommy and another musician (Donna Klein, I think) in a musical collaboration. Mention was made of the fact that they both have been using their musical talents for the Lord from childhood.

Also Danny mentioned that since Tommy took over production about 2 1/2 years ago (that would be about the time Linda was given the boot, wouldn't it), 3ABN programming had increased to a great degree.

This post has been edited by gracetoyou: Jan 1 2007, 04:53 PM

[Joe Smith]

Are you absolutely positive that Danny said this? If so, does anyone have a recording or a transcript?

I can't imagine Danny telling the world that allegedly molesting children in Virginia and Illinois while pastoring non-Adventist churches was part of Tommy's duties at 3ABN. No, I can't accept as a fact that he really said such unless I can see the evidence for myself. Recording or transcript please.

Pickle, you must be having comprehension problems today.... You need to read the above quote again. Danny said NOTHING about Tommy molesting children in any state! Let's get back on tract here. BY the way, as far as I know, and I could be wrong, 3ABN does not have a retirement plan for any of their workers. At least that is the way it was when I was there. There's only one person that left there with any real money,

Joe

[Skyhook]

Not to speak for pickle or state the obvious, but I think pickle was being facetious.
No doubt Tommy is under stress, but I suspect that it is hoped that his leaving will relieve Danny's stress and the stress of Dr. Thompson and the board members.

This post has been edited by Skyhook: Jan 1 2007, 03:39 PM

[gardener]

Tommys retirement program is on right now

[Grace]

Tommys retirement program is on right now

So it is!

This post has been edited by Grace: Jan 1 2007, 03:49 PM

[Daryl Fawcett]

Is it still on?

[Grace]

Is it still on?

I don't think so, Daryl, there's somebody preaching.

[Pickle]

Not to speak for pickle or state the obvious, but I think pickle was being facetious.

Skyhook,

No, I wasn't being facetious. I was dead serious.

Pickle, you must be having comprehension problems today.... You need to read the above quote again. Danny said NOTHING about Tommy molesting children in any state!

Hi Joe.

What the quote in question said was that Tommy was retiring because of health problems caused by stress related to his duties at 3ABN. Correct? If that were really the case, why did a Shelton family member write the following:

-------- Original Message --------
Subject: RE: Looks like a good address
Date: Sat, December 09, 2006 8:04 pm

...

I do know that Tommy is in very, very, bad health. His blood pressure is way out of control way past stroke stage and its not coming down. Whomever is causing him grief will have his blood on their hands if he passes. ... no one wants to loose their loved one. Gossip, we both know how the pressure from that can be. ... Then, I don't see why people want to murder others with their tongues.

Now Joe, if you are who Gailon thinks you are, there is a possibility that you might know about this email from this concerned Shelton family member. And if that be so, then it is absolutely certain that you know full well that when Danny referred to stress from duties at 3ABN, he really meant stress coming from new and old revelations of allegations of child molestation from Virginia and Illinois.

You see, there are only two ways to take Danny's words, if that is really what he said. (I would be overjoyed for someone to tell me that that is not what he said.)

• Danny was lying through his teeth when he said that Tommy was having health problems because of on-the-job stress, since he full well knew that the stress was coming from another source.
• Danny was saying that part of Tommy's 3ABN duties was creating allegations of child molestation in Virginia and Illinois while pastoring non-Adventist churches while not being employed by 3ABN.

Joe, do you see any other possibilities? If you can't think of any other possibilities, which of these two choices do you prefer?

BY the way, as far as I know, and I could be wrong, 3ABN does not have a retirement plan for any of their workers.

See if you can get a signed affidavit that, unlike what Gailon says happened in the 1990's, Tommy has not received and is not going to be receiving any compensation whatsoever.

Okay, I answered your questions and/or addressed your concerns. Could you be so kind as to return the favor?

• How much is Danny's house currently appraised for?
• How much more than the appraised value did Danny pay Linda for her half?
• How much is the oustanding loan, and how did that affect Danny's payment to Linda?

Thanks in advance for your answers.

[PrincessDrRe]

Pickle, you must be having comprehension problems today.... You need to read the above quote again. Danny said NOTHING about Tommy molesting children in any state! Let's get back on tract here. BY the way, as far as I know, and I could be wrong, 3ABN does not have a retirement plan for any of their workers. At least that is the way it was when I was there. There's only one person that left there with any real money,

Not to speak for pickle or state the obvious, but I think pickle was being facetious.
No doubt Tommy is under stress, but I suspect that it is hoped that his leaving will relieve Danny's stress and the stress of Dr. Thompson and the board members.

Pickle stated she was being serious...and I get it. He wouldn't dare mention the "true reason" - (molestation and non-denominational preaching) - but he could use another excuse....

That's what I was seeing....