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> God Never Fires!... And Other Stories, Soundbites from Live
Green Cochoa
post Jan 23 2007, 11:57 AM
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Perhaps these voices will need no introduction here...


God never fires!


Why do pastors spread rumors?


No accountability online!


Alright, that's enough to discuss for one post. wave.gif
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post Jan 23 2007, 12:05 PM
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QUOTE(Green Cochoa @ Jan 23 2007, 07:57 PM) [snapback]171938[/snapback]

Perhaps these voices will need no introduction here...
God never fires!
Why do pastors spread rumors?
No accountability online!
Alright, that's enough to discuss for one post. wave.gif


Why is there no accountability on radio/TV? People take rumors broadcast as the real truth without checking the sources.


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"The truth can lose nothing by close investigation". (1888 Materials 38)





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post Jan 23 2007, 12:07 PM
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QUOTE(Green Cochoa @ Jan 23 2007, 10:57 AM) [snapback]171938[/snapback]

Perhaps these voices will need no introduction here...
God never fires!
Why do pastors spread rumors?
No accountability online!
Alright, that's enough to discuss for one post. wave.gif

It is not the internet alone where this lack of accountability can exist. Sometimes it can even be broadcast throughout the world by satellite with millions believing every word.

This post has been edited by PeacefullyBewildered: Jan 23 2007, 12:07 PM


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post Jan 23 2007, 12:25 PM
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"Once God calls us he never fires us?" Unbelievable... no wonder people shake their heads at some of the foolishness christians (so-called) preach....

pastors spreading rumors and the other clip.... they are clueless...


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post Jan 23 2007, 12:41 PM
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QUOTE(Clay @ Jan 23 2007, 01:25 PM) [snapback]171947[/snapback]

"Once God calls us he never fires us?" Unbelievable... no wonder people shake their heads at some of the foolishness christians (so-called) preach....

pastors spreading rumors and the other clip.... they are clueless...

Not "clueless"... just forgetting.... ignoring.... or defying the facts... that their judgment of others reveals first of all the desires, contents, intents, and purposes of their own hearts.

So OF COURSE they must claim that "God never fires"! How else could they continue in their claim to be God's "anointed one".

OF COURSE they would assume that "pastors spread rumors". That is exactly what they have done and continue to do.

And OF COURSE they note that there is "No accountability online"! That is precisely their attitude when it comes to being accountable to any authority.... be it the church they pretend to represent, the donors who support them, or the government of the country to which they belong.

Ho... humm.... so predictable.... thumbdown.gif .....

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post Jan 23 2007, 12:49 PM
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QUOTE(Clay @ Jan 23 2007, 12:25 PM) [snapback]171947[/snapback]

"Once God calls us he never fires us?" Unbelievable... no wonder people shake their heads at some of the foolishness christians (so-called) preach....

pastors spreading rumors and the other clip.... they are clueless...


Desperation is setting in. You can hear it in their voices.


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post Jan 23 2007, 01:20 PM
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QUOTE(Clay @ Jan 23 2007, 11:25 AM) [snapback]171947[/snapback]

"Once God calls us he never fires us?" Unbelievable... no wonder people shake their heads at some of the foolishness christians (so-called) preach....

pastors spreading rumors and the other clip.... they are clueless...



Listen carefully to the words. The statement is that God does not fire us if God has called us, and we are doing God's work.

NOTE: It was qualified. Why would God fire us if God hired us and we continue to do God's work.


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post Jan 23 2007, 01:25 PM
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"Once God calls us he never fires us"



(1Sa 15:26) And Samuel said unto Saul, I will not return with thee: for thou hast rejected the word of the LORD, and the LORD hath rejected thee from being king over Israel.


As Donald Trump would say, "Saul, YOU'RE Fired"
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QUOTE(lookin4truth @ Jan 23 2007, 11:25 AM) [snapback]171961[/snapback]

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As Donald Trump would say, "Saul, YOU'RE Fired"


And as Homer Simpson would say - DOH!

BUT Saul's replacement wasn't to take possession of the throne until Saul was removed. AND that task was not commissioned to anyone in Israel. NOBODY, not even David received had received permission or a command from God to remove Saul from the throne. Any attempt to do so would have been presumptuous and a violation of God’s will.

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post Jan 23 2007, 02:44 PM
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QUOTE(Chimaz @ Jan 23 2007, 03:06 PM) [snapback]171971[/snapback]

BUT Saul's replacement wasn't to take possession of the throne until Saul was removed. AND that task was not commissioned to anyone in Israel. NOBODY, not even David received had received permission or a command from God to remove Saul from the throne. Any attempt to do so would have been presumptuous and a violation of God’s will.



The post was in response to the quote "Once God calls us he never fires us".

The fact is that God does, at times, "fire" those who fail to continue in His ways.

In response your reply, there is nowhere that shows David ever sought "permission or command from God to remove Saul from the throne", but God may have given him the option.

David's men reminded him, "Behold the day of which the LORD said unto thee, Behold, I will deliver thine enemy into thine hand, that thou mayest do to him as it shall seem good unto thee."

David chose not to touch Saul. It was his conviction not to touch the Lord's anointed.

There are times, however, when God commanded men to carry out justice.

(Deut 17:5-8) Then shalt thou bring forth that man or that woman, which have committed that wicked thing, unto thy gates, even that man or that woman, and shalt stone them with stones, till they die. At the mouth of two witnesses, or three witnesses, shall he that is worthy of death be put to death; but at the mouth of one witness he shall not be put to death. The hands of the witnesses shall be first upon him to put him to death, and afterward the hands of all the people. So thou shalt put the evil away from among you. If there arise a matter too hard for thee in judgment, between blood and blood, between plea and plea, and between stroke and stroke, being matters of controversy within thy gates: then shalt thou arise, and get thee up into the place which the LORD thy God shall choose;

God, very often, uses men to bring about judgment. Sometimes he uses the righteous, and sometimes he uses heathen to bring about his divine judgment (i.e. Babylon, Assyria, Philistines, etc.).



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QUOTE(Chimaz @ Jan 23 2007, 01:06 PM) [snapback]171971[/snapback]

And as Homer Simpson would say - DOH!

BUT Saul's replacement wasn't to take possession of the throne until Saul was removed. AND that task was not commissioned to anyone in Israel. NOBODY, not even David received had received permission or a command from God to remove Saul from the throne. Any attempt to do so would have been presumptuous and a violation of God’s will.

Of course that scenario took place during the Old Testament era Theocracy and doesn't exactly fit with this present scenario:

1. The President of 3abn is not a king set up by the Lord Himself as Saul was.
2. A pastor who violates the Law of God and church doctrine can most assuredly be fired by the proper officials.
3. By inspiration, Paul, Ellen White and others gave us counsel and guidelines on what to do with unrepentant brethren.

This post has been edited by PeacefullyBewildered: Jan 23 2007, 02:58 PM


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Point blank and blunt.

GOD does fire. If you aren't doing his will he won't let it be that way forever....

So...in the end...GOD does fire....


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QUOTE(Green Cochoa @ Jan 23 2007, 12:57 PM) [snapback]171938[/snapback]

Perhaps these voices will need no introduction here...
God never fires!

Lessee .. that would be John Lomacang?
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Why do pastors spread rumors?

Dan Shelton?
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No accountability online!
Dan Shelton & Shelley Quinn?

Please correct me if I'm wrong. I've been avoiding these folks for a while & may not remember correctly. dunno.gif
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Alright, that's enough to discuss for one post. wave.gif


Thanks much, Green, for this! smile.gif

More of this kind of "first-hand" info would be helpful.
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QUOTE(inga @ Jan 23 2007, 04:26 PM) [snapback]172011[/snapback]

Lessee .. that would be John Lomacang?

Dan Shelton?Dan Shelton & Shelley Quinn?

I believe that last one was Dan and Mollie. I could be wrong though - it happens a lot!

Please correct me if I'm wrong. I've been avoiding these folks for a while & may not remember correctly. dunno.gif
Thanks much, Green, for this! smile.gif

More of this kind of "first-hand" info would be helpful.

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Let's see if eye witness will verify this?


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