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erik
post Feb 6 2007, 11:44 AM
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To all the Danny is innocent crowd,


Just read the letters from the second mom, Judy Woods, Sherry Avery,

i have just one question how long is your side going to pretend that not one thing happen or it was all over 30 years ago. HOw long are you going to party to the cover of sin which always leads to more sin.

just wondering?


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post Feb 6 2007, 12:24 PM
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I agree Erik I just read the letter early this morning. Amazing they will spin this one too I'm sure. Just sad that these boys(at the time) & their families have to go thru this. mad.gif


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post Feb 6 2007, 12:47 PM
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Just finished reading the letter from Sherry Avery that makes my blood boil. That is beyond sick & twisted. 2guns.gif


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post Feb 6 2007, 12:59 PM
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QUOTE(Hersheys99 @ Feb 6 2007, 12:47 PM) [snapback]175827[/snapback]

Just finished reading the letter from Sherry Avery that makes my blood boil. That is beyond sick & twisted. 2guns.gif

I read the letter , too. You would not believe the horrible memories it brings back.


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Gems of Wisdom
"Lisa and Ronda are not Danny's biological father." -- wwjd, 2/8/07
"Watchbird, The facts prove the above lie." -- wwjd, 2/13/07
"Another lie that can be proven..." -- Bystander, 3/18/07
"The thing about lies is they can be proven." -- Aletheia, 3/22/07
"I am not here to argue" -- Aletheia, 4/24/07
"She didn't move to 3ABN, she moved to Illinois" -- Aletheia, 4/25/07
"Hope is liberal. 3abn is not." -- steffan, 6/9/07
"Danny Shelton does not decide what goes on the air, period." -- appletree, 8/22/07


http://www.save-3abn.com/
http://www.investigating3abn.info/
http://rescue3abn.blog.com/
http://www.abundantrest.org/?p=74
http://abundantrest.org/2007/02/18/3abn-sa...ons-retirement/
http://anewsabbathschool.blogspot.com/2006...ain-wrecks.html
http://cafesda.blogspot.com/2006/08/atoday...bn-news_21.html
http://www.atoday.com/email/2007/02/12/
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post Feb 6 2007, 01:07 PM
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hug.gif I'm sure it does & sorry you have to go thru this all again. Hang in there.


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post Feb 6 2007, 01:27 PM
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I have just read everything added in the past two days at Save3abn.com. The letters from the participants in the TS situation speak for themselves.

The emails showing the development of the process ASI was to have used are very interesting. I am very glad they have been made available. It seems fairly clear to me that there was never going to be a chance of full transparency even though the procedures for conducting the proceedings were getting closer to what I would consider a fair hearing (or within the legal concept of "due process").

Can someone tell me if there are more email coming or if this is it and the next response was ASI issuing the statement that they were withdrawing?

Can someone tell me if the person referred to as having resigned is the attorney that was discussed on another thread or is that inappropriate speculation on my part?

And I have asked before but not received an answer, has Mr. Joy ever been a licensed attorney even if he is not now?

I am dismayed once again that there seems to be a presumption that lawyers in the process only hinder truth finding and that praying for discernment makes it more likely a truthful and fair decision will be reached.

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post Feb 6 2007, 02:11 PM
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QUOTE(ex3ABNemployee @ Feb 6 2007, 10:59 AM) [snapback]175832[/snapback]

I read the letter , too. You would not believe the horrible memories it brings back.



Duane,

I know that words can not change your memories, but please know that many here will not be quiet until this ends.

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post Feb 6 2007, 02:54 PM
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QUOTE(Noahswife @ Feb 6 2007, 12:27 PM) [snapback]175845[/snapback]

I have just read everything added in the past two days at Save3abn.com. The letters from the participants in the TS situation speak for themselves.

The emails showing the development of the process ASI was to have used are very interesting. I am very glad they have been made available. It seems fairly clear to me that there was never going to be a chance of full transparency even though the procedures for conducting the proceedings were getting closer to what I would consider a fair hearing (or within the legal concept of "due process").

Can someone tell me if there are more email coming or if this is it and the next response was ASI issuing the statement that they were withdrawing?

Can someone tell me if the person referred to as having resigned is the attorney that was discussed on another thread or is that inappropriate speculation on my part?

And I have asked before but not received an answer, has Mr. Joy ever been a licensed attorney even if he is not now?

I am dismayed once again that there seems to be a presumption that lawyers in the process only hinder truth finding and that praying for discernment makes it more likely a truthful and fair decision will be reached.

nw


Harold Lance is a trial attorney. He is not Nick Miller.

Mr. Joy has never been a licensed attorney. He has worked in area of litigation.



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QUOTE(Observer @ Feb 6 2007, 03:54 PM) [snapback]175878[/snapback]

Harold Lance is a trial attorney. He is not Nick Miller.

Mr. Joy has never been a licensed attorney. He has worked in area of litigation.



I have learned over and over here and other places on the www that taking the time to be exact saves a lot of problems.

I just tried to go to the Save3ABN website but they must be uploading or something as it did not come up.

I was referring to something in one of the emails where (and I can't tell you who since I could not get back to it) someone points out to ASI/HL that other issues must be considered because someone who had brought something possibly unethical to the attention of DS eventually resigned due to manufactured evidence against him/her. Since questions have been asked and speculation raised that Nick Miller did not resign merely because he had better things to do with his time, I wondered if that was the person that was essentially forced to resign if I read the email correctly.

Sorry for any confusion I caused and I should have trusted my instinct to quote the exact paragraph from the email I was referring to.

Just checked and the site is still down.

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post Feb 6 2007, 03:18 PM
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And I have asked before but not received an answer, has Mr. Joy ever been a licensed attorney even if he is not now?



No, to my knowledge and lots of others that know him personally, he has never been a licensed attorney, a licensed investigator nor is he any kind of an official reporter.
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Yes its down for me too. Amazing with the new letters & stuff added hopefully its just a glitch on their end & will be fixed shortly.


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It appears to be back up now.


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It's not about religion, it's about a relationship.

Gems of Wisdom
"Lisa and Ronda are not Danny's biological father." -- wwjd, 2/8/07
"Watchbird, The facts prove the above lie." -- wwjd, 2/13/07
"Another lie that can be proven..." -- Bystander, 3/18/07
"The thing about lies is they can be proven." -- Aletheia, 3/22/07
"I am not here to argue" -- Aletheia, 4/24/07
"She didn't move to 3ABN, she moved to Illinois" -- Aletheia, 4/25/07
"Hope is liberal. 3abn is not." -- steffan, 6/9/07
"Danny Shelton does not decide what goes on the air, period." -- appletree, 8/22/07


http://www.save-3abn.com/
http://www.investigating3abn.info/
http://rescue3abn.blog.com/
http://www.abundantrest.org/?p=74
http://abundantrest.org/2007/02/18/3abn-sa...ons-retirement/
http://anewsabbathschool.blogspot.com/2006...ain-wrecks.html
http://cafesda.blogspot.com/2006/08/atoday...bn-news_21.html
http://www.atoday.com/email/2007/02/12/
http://spectrummagazine.typepad.com/the_sp...eans_and_e.html
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QUOTE(Noahswife @ Feb 6 2007, 04:07 PM) [snapback]175885[/snapback]

I have learned over and over here and other places on the www that taking the time to be exact saves a lot of problems.

I just tried to go to the Save3ABN website but they must be uploading or something as it did not come up.

I was referring to something in one of the emails where (and I can't tell you who since I could not get back to it) someone points out to ASI/HL that other issues must be considered because someone who had brought something possibly unethical to the attention of DS eventually resigned due to manufactured evidence against him/her. Since questions have been asked and speculation raised that Nick Miller did not resign merely because he had better things to do with his time, I wondered if that was the person that was essentially forced to resign if I read the email correctly.

Sorry for any confusion I caused and I should have trusted my instinct to quote the exact paragraph from the email I was referring to.

Just checked and the site is still down.

nw


The section I was referring to said the following:

Another person of note, a former prominent 3ABNer who is not pro-Linda, has informed me in writing that Danny threatened him/her to back off regarding financial, operational, and personal concerns, and when he/she didn't, that Danny ordered the fraudulent manufacturing of evidence against him/her, which thus produced a damaging allegation against him/her, and led to his/her resignation, without the board investigating whether his/her claim of such deceit was legitimate, even when it was brought to their attention. I wish I could say that that case was ancient history, but it was definitely not.

It can be found at this link:

http://www.save3abn.com/danny-shelton-smok...-bob-pickle.htm

I see they have posted a fax received from someone on 3ABN in the recent past and that is probably why the site was unavailable.

nw


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QUOTE(ex3ABNemployee @ Feb 6 2007, 12:59 PM) [snapback]175832[/snapback]

I read the letter , too. You would not believe the horrible memories it brings back.


I need to explain this comment. In no way did I mean that the letter shouldn't have been posted. It just makes me think of events years ago.


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It's not about religion, it's about a relationship.

Gems of Wisdom
"Lisa and Ronda are not Danny's biological father." -- wwjd, 2/8/07
"Watchbird, The facts prove the above lie." -- wwjd, 2/13/07
"Another lie that can be proven..." -- Bystander, 3/18/07
"The thing about lies is they can be proven." -- Aletheia, 3/22/07
"I am not here to argue" -- Aletheia, 4/24/07
"She didn't move to 3ABN, she moved to Illinois" -- Aletheia, 4/25/07
"Hope is liberal. 3abn is not." -- steffan, 6/9/07
"Danny Shelton does not decide what goes on the air, period." -- appletree, 8/22/07


http://www.save-3abn.com/
http://www.investigating3abn.info/
http://rescue3abn.blog.com/
http://www.abundantrest.org/?p=74
http://abundantrest.org/2007/02/18/3abn-sa...ons-retirement/
http://anewsabbathschool.blogspot.com/2006...ain-wrecks.html
http://cafesda.blogspot.com/2006/08/atoday...bn-news_21.html
http://www.atoday.com/email/2007/02/12/
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I was reading Uriah Smith's Daniel and the Revelation this morning when I came upon this quotation in the chapter on Revelation 1 describing the beginning of John's vision - I just wanted to share it for all of you who are so directly affected by all of this - Duane, Linda, Barbara, Derrell and so many more - I don't know any of you but my prayer for you is that you will feel His hand:

Overcome by the presence of this august Being, and perhaps under a keen sense of all human unworthiness, John fell at His feet as dead, but a comforting hand is laid upon him, and a voice of sweet assurance tells him not to fear. It is equally the privilege of Christians today to feel the same hand laid upon them to strengthen and comfort them in hours of trial and affliction, and to hear the same voice saying to them, "Fear not."


In the same chapter, this sentence seemed to be flashing in neon:

But when man thinks he has buried the truth in eternal oblivion, the Lord gives it a resurrection in tenfold glory and power .


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