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post Feb 7 2007, 03:49 PM
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Thanks for the clarification, Duane, but I knew what you meant. smile.gif

QUOTE(ex3ABNemployee @ Feb 7 2007, 11:26 AM) [snapback]176162[/snapback]

I need to explain this comment. In no way did I mean that the letter shouldn't have been posted. It just makes me think of events years ago.


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post Feb 11 2007, 12:02 AM
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You know, the more letters and information I read, the more upset I get. The realization of how I and many others have been manipulated and duped for so many years is gut wrenching. Then I get on here and see how so many are more than willing to cast doubt on written testimonies, question the motives and sexual orientation of victims, make ludicrous allegations and do it all behind the shield of a screen name. I don't know how some of you can sleep at night.

I can tell you this. The truth is coming out. People are waking up. Almost every day someone talks to me who has read the information on this site and others, and they're not buying the lies any more. It all comes down to credibility. Who is willing to put their name on what they say, and who isn't? It speaks volumes to the general public.

To those of you who want to hide in secrecy and continue to smear signed testimonies, you may continue to do so if you want, but I think you're in for a big shock in the very near future.


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Gems of Wisdom
"Lisa and Ronda are not Danny's biological father." -- wwjd, 2/8/07
"Watchbird, The facts prove the above lie." -- wwjd, 2/13/07
"Another lie that can be proven..." -- Bystander, 3/18/07
"The thing about lies is they can be proven." -- Aletheia, 3/22/07
"I am not here to argue" -- Aletheia, 4/24/07
"She didn't move to 3ABN, she moved to Illinois" -- Aletheia, 4/25/07
"Hope is liberal. 3abn is not." -- steffan, 6/9/07
"Danny Shelton does not decide what goes on the air, period." -- appletree, 8/22/07


http://www.save-3abn.com/
http://www.investigating3abn.info/
http://rescue3abn.blog.com/
http://www.abundantrest.org/?p=74
http://abundantrest.org/2007/02/18/3abn-sa...ons-retirement/
http://anewsabbathschool.blogspot.com/2006...ain-wrecks.html
http://cafesda.blogspot.com/2006/08/atoday...bn-news_21.html
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post Feb 11 2007, 03:21 AM
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QUOTE(ex3ABNemployee @ Feb 11 2007, 01:02 AM) [snapback]177222[/snapback]

You know, the more letters and information I read, the more upset I get. The realization of how I and many others have been manipulated and duped for so many years is gut wrenching. Then I get on here and see how so many are more than willing to cast doubt on written testimonies, question the motives and sexual orientation of victims, make ludicrous allegations and do it all behind the shield of a screen name. I don't know how some of you can sleep at night.

I can tell you this. The truth is coming out. People are waking up. Almost every day someone talks to me who has read the information on this site and others, and they're not buying the lies any more. It all comes down to credibility. Who is willing to put their name on what they say, and who isn't? It speaks volumes to the general public.

To those of you who want to hide in secrecy and continue to smear signed testimonies, you may continue to do so if you want, but I think you're in for a big shock in the very near future.



I'm sure that it is frustrating for you Duane, but keep looking ahead. Like you said, the information is getting out. People are screaming for intervention, and eventually it must be addressed.



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post Feb 11 2007, 07:49 AM
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Hang in there Duane, keep your eyes focused on the Creator. He will give you the peace you deserve and need. As you see more and more letters like those that cause you anguish just realize that this a desperate bid by Satan to quell the truth.

Richard


QUOTE(ex3ABNemployee @ Feb 11 2007, 01:02 AM) [snapback]177222[/snapback]

You know, the more letters and information I read, the more upset I get. The realization of how I and many others have been manipulated and duped for so many years is gut wrenching. Then I get on here and see how so many are more than willing to cast doubt on written testimonies, question the motives and sexual orientation of victims, make ludicrous allegations and do it all behind the shield of a screen name. I don't know how some of you can sleep at night.

I can tell you this. The truth is coming out. People are waking up. Almost every day someone talks to me who has read the information on this site and others, and they're not buying the lies any more. It all comes down to credibility. Who is willing to put their name on what they say, and who isn't? It speaks volumes to the general public.

To those of you who want to hide in secrecy and continue to smear signed testimonies, you may continue to do so if you want, but I think you're in for a big shock in the very near future.

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post Feb 13 2007, 12:33 PM
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QUOTE(ex3ABNemployee @ Feb 11 2007, 01:02 AM) [snapback]177222[/snapback]

You know, the more letters and information I read, the more upset I get. The realization of how I and many others have been manipulated and duped for so many years is gut wrenching. Then I get on here and see how so many are more than willing to cast doubt on written testimonies, question the motives and sexual orientation of victims, make ludicrous allegations and do it all behind the shield of a screen name. I don't know how some of you can sleep at night.

I can tell you this. The truth is coming out. People are waking up. Almost every day someone talks to me who has read the information on this site and others, and they're not buying the lies any more. It all comes down to credibility. Who is willing to put their name on what they say, and who isn't? It speaks volumes to the general public.

To those of you who want to hide in secrecy and continue to smear signed testimonies, you may continue to do so if you want, but I think you're in for a big shock in the very near future.

Thanks Duane, for your continued affirmation of the good that this site is accomplishing. Please know that those of us who used to post a lot, but now do so only occasionally, are not silent because we have been swayed by the attacks by the Dannyworshipers. We are still here. We are still strong in our convictions that we are learning the truth from those like yourself and are just in a holding pattern now, while others "wake up" as you express it, and the wheels of justice grind in their own slow but sure, God-driven way.

We do appreciate your continued speaking up... but you know... you don't have to subject yourself to the repetitious attacks by your tormenters. You can put them on "ignore" so you simply do not see their attacks. When new persons come on... no matter what side they take, you will still see those and be able to contribute to their education. But don't put yourself through more than what God asks you too of the flogging your enemies would love to lay on you!

Blessings on you......and all the other victims, both those who have already come forward, and those who are still only gaining courage to do so. And God bless us all that we may continue to stand firm in opposing evil, wherever it may be found.... even in a prominent church ministry...... amen.gif
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post Feb 13 2007, 02:51 PM
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QUOTE(watchbird @ Feb 13 2007, 11:33 AM) [snapback]177981[/snapback]


Blessings on you......and all the other victims, both those who have already come forward, and those who are still only gaining courage to do so. And God bless us all that we may continue to stand firm in opposing evil, wherever it may be found.... even in a prominent church ministry...... amen.gif


I second this statement wholeheartedly. Thank you, WB!

I know you have Duane's interest at heart when you suggest that he avoid the floggings but, as a victim myself, I know it is part of the process of healing to be able to see those attacks and confront them. In my opinion it helps one regain power and builds muscle. flex.gif


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post Feb 13 2007, 06:24 PM
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QUOTE(PeacefullyBewildered @ Feb 13 2007, 04:51 PM) [snapback]178020[/snapback]

I know you have Duane's interest at heart when you suggest that he avoid the floggings but, as a victim myself, I know it is part of the process of healing to be able to see those attacks and confront them. In my opinion it helps one regain power and builds muscle. flex.gif

True dat!
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post Feb 13 2007, 11:57 PM
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QUOTE(PeacefullyBewildered @ Feb 13 2007, 03:51 PM) [snapback]178020[/snapback]

as a victim myself, I know it is part of the process of healing to be able to see those attacks and confront them. In my opinion it helps one regain power and builds muscle. flex.gif
Makes sense to me. smile.gif
More power to you! flex.gif I see you've already built quite a bit of muscle. flex.gif smile.gif
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post Feb 14 2007, 12:18 AM
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QUOTE(inga @ Feb 13 2007, 10:57 PM) [snapback]178168[/snapback]

Makes sense to me. smile.gif
More power to you! flex.gif I see you've already built quite a bit of muscle. flex.gif smile.gif

I have a great Personal Trainer! spoton.gif


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post Mar 7 2007, 04:05 AM
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I have noticed that there are a couple of new items posted at save3abn.com

http://www.save3abn.com/danny-shelton-meet-the-board-1.htm

"I would be most happy for you to come and have a meeting with my board...."

Danny Shelton



-------- Original Message --------
From: Danny Shelton
To: [Arild Abrahamsen]
Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2004 08:21:02 -0500

Doctor,

Johann says that if you believe my wife needs support because of lies being told or whatever, you will come across the ocean and save her. I would be most happy for you to come and have a meeting with my board and conference President and explain to them....

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"If you choose to come anyway, you will place us in a position where we will have to have you removed from the premises."

Danny Shelton


-------- Original Message --------
From: Mollie Steenson
To: Johann Thorvaldsson
Subject: 3ABN
Date: Thursday, May 27, 2004 4:57 PM

Dear Johann,

It has come to my attention that you and Dr. Abrahamsen are planning to attend the 3ABN Camp Meeting this week. Please be made aware that you aren't welcome here at this time and under these circumstances. If you choose to come anyway, you will place us in a position where we will have to have you removed from the premises.

If you would like to discuss this with me, please call me at
Danny Shelton



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post Mar 7 2007, 05:14 AM
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QUOTE(Panama_Pete @ Mar 7 2007, 12:05 PM) [snapback]183297[/snapback]

I have noticed that there are a couple of new items posted at save3abn.com

http://www.save3abn.com/danny-shelton-meet-the-board-1.htm

"I would be most happy for you to come and have a meeting with my board...."

Danny Shelton

-------- Original Message --------
From: Danny Shelton
To: [Arild Abrahamsen]
Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2004 08:21:02 -0500

Doctor,

Johann says that if you believe my wife needs support because of lies being told or whatever, you will come across the ocean and save her. I would be most happy for you to come and have a meeting with my board and conference President and explain to them....

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"If you choose to come anyway, you will place us in a position where we will have to have you removed from the premises."

Danny Shelton


-------- Original Message --------
From: Mollie Steenson
To: Johann Thorvaldsson
Subject: 3ABN
Date: Thursday, May 27, 2004 4:57 PM

Dear Johann,

It has come to my attention that you and Dr. Abrahamsen are planning to attend the 3ABN Camp Meeting this week. Please be made aware that you aren't welcome here at this time and under these circumstances. If you choose to come anyway, you will place us in a position where we will have to have you removed from the premises.

If you would like to discuss this with me, please call me at
Danny Shelton
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It is this kind of contradictions by Danny Shelton himself that have caused many to catch a glimpse of the whole picture. Thank God the truth is emerging!!!

As I have said many times before: Danny Shelton is Danny Shelton's worst enemy!!!

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post Mar 7 2007, 06:43 AM
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QUOTE(Johann @ Mar 7 2007, 05:14 AM) [snapback]183302[/snapback]

It is this kind of contradictions by Danny Shelton himself that have caused many to catch a glimpse of the whole picture. Thank God the truth is emerging!!!

As I have said many times before: Danny Shelton is Danny Shelton's worst enemy!!!


But of course, Danny will not be the one at fault in the eyes of the dannyscribes. Let's see how long it takes for them to start trashing the Dr. for allowing the emails to be posted.

I'm sure it will be Linda's fault also, somehow.


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Gems of Wisdom
"Lisa and Ronda are not Danny's biological father." -- wwjd, 2/8/07
"Watchbird, The facts prove the above lie." -- wwjd, 2/13/07
"Another lie that can be proven..." -- Bystander, 3/18/07
"The thing about lies is they can be proven." -- Aletheia, 3/22/07
"I am not here to argue" -- Aletheia, 4/24/07
"She didn't move to 3ABN, she moved to Illinois" -- Aletheia, 4/25/07
"Hope is liberal. 3abn is not." -- steffan, 6/9/07
"Danny Shelton does not decide what goes on the air, period." -- appletree, 8/22/07


http://www.save-3abn.com/
http://www.investigating3abn.info/
http://rescue3abn.blog.com/
http://www.abundantrest.org/?p=74
http://abundantrest.org/2007/02/18/3abn-sa...ons-retirement/
http://anewsabbathschool.blogspot.com/2006...ain-wrecks.html
http://cafesda.blogspot.com/2006/08/atoday...bn-news_21.html
http://www.atoday.com/email/2007/02/12/
http://spectrummagazine.typepad.com/the_sp...eans_and_e.html
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post Mar 7 2007, 03:18 PM
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QUOTE(Panama_Pete @ Mar 7 2007, 04:05 AM) [snapback]183297[/snapback]

I have noticed that there are a couple of new items posted at save3abn.com

http://www.save3abn.com/danny-shelton-meet-the-board-1.htm

"I would be most happy for you to come and have a meeting with my board...."

Danny Shelton

-------- Original Message --------
From: Danny Shelton
To: [Arild Abrahamsen]
Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2004 08:21:02 -0500

Doctor,

Johann says that if you believe my wife needs support because of lies being told or whatever, you will come across the ocean and save her. I would be most happy for you to come and have a meeting with my board and conference President and explain to them....

------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

"If you choose to come anyway, you will place us in a position where we will have to have you removed from the premises."

Danny Shelton


-------- Original Message --------
From: Mollie Steenson
To: Johann Thorvaldsson
Subject: 3ABN
Date: Thursday, May 27, 2004 4:57 PM

Dear Johann,

It has come to my attention that you and Dr. Abrahamsen are planning to attend the 3ABN Camp Meeting this week. Please be made aware that you aren't welcome here at this time and under these circumstances. If you choose to come anyway, you will place us in a position where we will have to have you removed from the premises.

If you would like to discuss this with me, please call me at
Danny Shelton
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The doc was invited to tell his story to the board on Sunday. He was not welcome at the campmeeting in the meantime. What is hard to understand about that? The end of the story. Well, except after having the chance to tell his side, he didn't show....Oh just to be clear, the "premises" refers to the camp meeting location, not the board room.

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QUOTE(wwjd @ Mar 7 2007, 05:18 PM) [snapback]183534[/snapback]

The doc was invited to tell his story to the board on Sunday. He was not welcome at the campmeeting in the meantime. What is hard to understand about that? The end of the story. Well, except after having the chance to tell his side, he didn't show....Oh just to be clear, the "premises" refers to the camp meeting location, not the board room.

"Paying close attention to the demons and praying without ceasing....."

The LORD is not pleased..... nonono.gif

That entire "explanation" makes no sense and reeks of the devil..... MY LORD!


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"My House is a House of Prayer for ALL people" Is 3ABN campmeeting Danny's house or God's. If you consider it God's house, then you will see the problem. If you consider it Danny's then.........need I say more? Also, just on the real level. After being told you weren't welcom at church service, but to be "grilled" by the board the next day............I dont' think I would have walked into that trap either. If Danny was on the up and up, he would have welcomed the Dr., praying together for God's will to be done.

QUOTE(wwjd @ Mar 7 2007, 01:18 PM) [snapback]183534[/snapback]

The doc was invited to tell his story to the board on Sunday. He was not welcome at the campmeeting in the meantime. What is hard to understand about that? The end of the story. Well, except after having the chance to tell his side, he didn't show....Oh just to be clear, the "premises" refers to the camp meeting location, not the board room.



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