AToday NewBreak Article on 3ABN |
AToday NewBreak Article on 3ABN |
Feb 12 2007, 01:49 PM
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Just got this in my email - I went to get the link off the web so I could just post it here, but I don't see they have it yet (or I can't find it ) listed on the website as it is a "newsbreak" and will be there. So, forgive the long post, if I should do this a different way (Calvin, Clay, Di) let me know. It's worth the read.
********************************************************************************** ADVENTIST NEWS Round up Tommy Shelton Retires from 3ABN Virginia church meets to address allegations of sexual misconduct By Edwin D. Schwisow, for ATNewsbreak (09 February 2007). Facing multiple allegations of sexual misconduct, Tommy Shelton, production manager at Three Angels Broadcasting Network (3ABN) and brother of 3ABN President Danny Shelton, announced his retirement in a December 31, 2006 broadcast of 3ABN Live. Although not owned or operated by the Seventh-day Adventist Church, many of 3ABNs employees and volunteers are Adventist Church members. In a telephone interview with a representative of Adventist Today, Danny Shelton confirmed that his brother had left the employ of 3ABN for “health reasons.” Virginia Church Allegations Tommy Sheltons retirement comes just four weeks after the Community Church of God in Dunn Loring, Virginia, held a December 3, 2006, business meeting to address accusations made by several young men that Tommy had molested them while he was pastor of the church. Following the meeting, church leaders read a carefully-worded statement, apprising the congregation of the accusations against Shelton and how they, as parishioners, should best respond. The church leaders prepared the statement under the advisement of their insurance carrier, Brotherhood Mutual, which had become involved after a young man came to the church with allegations that Tommy, during his pastorate, had molested him. The young was a minor when he says was abused. He is the third in recent months to come forward to Community Church of God leaders, accusing Shelton of making inappropriate sexual advances, according to Glenn Dryden, current pastor of the church. A History of Allegations This is not the first time Tommy has been accused of inappropriate sexual activity with underage males. During much of the 1980s, Tommy pastored the Ezra Church of God in his hometown of West Frankfort, Illinois. While there, he worked closely with a 12-grade school, whose property bordered the church. During this time, a teenage boy, who was a student at the school, accused Tommy of soliciting him for a sexual relationship. According to Dryden, who pastored the West Frankfort church in the 1990s, three additional boys also made similar allegations, prompting civil authorities to become involved. Following a police investigation, Tommy was not charged with a crime, but the allegations were serious enough to prompt Church of God officials to intervene. In a letter dated October 25, 1985, the General Assembly of the Church of God in Illinois revoked Tommys ordination. They listed their reasons for doing so as “improper counseling procedures,” “numerous charges of misconduct,” a criminal investigation into sexual abuse charges by the local police, and controversy surrounding Tommys ministry and lifestyle. Ultimately Tommys lack of cooperation in the disciplinary process, Dryden says, led the Church of God in Illinois to drop the Ezra Church of God from its roster of affiliated congregations. In the early 1990s, further allegations of sexual misconduct were brought against Tommy and in 1991 Tommy resigned as pastor of the Ezra Church of God, citing health concerns. Allegations at 3ABN Shortly after Tommy resigned his post as pastor, Danny invited him to join 3ABN as production manager. During his time at 3ABN, a member of Tommys production staff, who was in his early twenties at the time, says Tommy made a sexual advance toward him. Shortly after what he calls his “uncomfortable situation,” the former employee says he confronted Danny Shelton with what had happened. In response, Danny assured the young man that he would no longer have to answer to Tommy and that 3ABN administrators would “work things out.” In late 1992, Elder Bj Christensen, then president of the Illinois Conference of Seventh-day Adventists, approached two members of Dannys family, asking them to make a statement in regard to improprieties they had observed in Tommys behavior. Elder Christiansen transcribed the statement and brought it to the attention of the 3ABN board, on which he then sat. At a subsequent 3ABN board meeting, Tommy was terminated as production manager. Shortly thereafter, 3ABN outfitted him with a touring bus and sent him as a 3ABN representative, giving gospel concerts and promoting 3ABN to cable companies throughout the United States. Connections in Virginia During the time he was promoting 3ABN, he visited the Community Church of God in Dunn Loring. After learning that Tommy had experience with media ministry, the church offered him a position as a media consultant. Later he was hired as assistant pastor for media ministries. When the churchs senior pastor left for missionary service in March 1996, Tommy was named as his replacement. Further allegations of sexual misconduct surfaced during his tenure in Dunn Loring, and in 2000, members of Tommys own family confronted him about what they saw as inappropriate activities between him and his adopted son. His family also shared their concerns about his relationship with an underage male from the church. In the face of the new allegations, Tommy once again announced he was having medical problems in 2002 and resigned as pastor of the Community Church of God, moving with his wife and family to Marion, Kentucky, an hour and a half drive from 3ABN. Later that year, Tommy was hired as 3ABN tape and masters archive librarian, without the formal approval of the 3ABN board of directors, a group that had fired him just 10 years before. Pastor Contacts 3ABN In the spring of 2003, Dryden, then pastor of the Ezra Church of God in West Frankfort, penned a letter outlining his concerns about Tommy Shelton. He distributed it to a handful of leaders of Church of God camp meeting associations, whom he knew, in the past, had invited Tommy to speak at their church meetings. He later sent the letter to Dr. Walter Thompson, 3ABN board chairman, advising him that “at least six boys in our community were sexually abused” by Tommy. He told Thompson that Tommys ordination was not in good standing with either the Church of God in Illinois or Virginia and offered to give Thompson the phone numbers of the family members of Tommys purported victims so that 3ABN could follow up on the situation. Thompson spoke with Dryden and then brought the letter to the attention of Danny Shelton. Danny brushed the letter off as 30-year old news, attributing it to a long-standing feud between Dryden and Tommy. After meeting with Danny, Thompson brought the letter to the full 3ABN board at its June 2003 meeting. The board, due to its belief that the events had happened many years before; Tommys assurance that he had attempted to make things right; and the fact that no legal action had been taken against Tommy, voted to allow Tommys relationship with 3ABN to continue. Further Allegations In the Spring of 2004, Roger W. Clem, a 32 year-old man who had attended the Ezra Church of God during his teenage years, released a letter he had written to Tommy, accusing him of sexual abuse. In his letter, which he later posted on the Internet, Clem claims Tommy had ruined 15 years of his life. He says that he is sick of Tommys manipulative behavior, including his claims of illness to divert attention away from allegations of sexual misconduct. On June 4, 2004, Linda Shelton signed a Separation Agreement with 3ABN, ending her employment with the ministry. Later that year, Tommy moved into her old office at 3ABN and assumed her role as programming director. During his time at 3ABN he traveled with his brother to 3ABN gatherings around the world, many times playing the piano as Danny sang. He also began playing the piano for the Kids Time show on 3ABN. Late in 2006, Duane Klem, Rogers brother, shared with close associates that Tommy had molested him, as well. In a statement released in January 2007, Klem accused Tommy of initiating a sexual relationship with him when he was 19, at times using 3ABN buildings for their assignations. Klem says the growing number of allegations against Tommy prompted him to come forward with his claims. Adventist Investigators Much of the pressure that Tommy Shelton now faces has come from the efforts of a small, informal network of Seventh-day Adventist individuals. Many in the group categorize themselves as conservative Adventists, a constituency 3ABN has long relied on for key support. For the past five months, this unpaid volunteer group has investigated a number of allegations against Danny Shelton and 3ABN. Some they have found to be true, while others have proved to be false. Doing their work primarily via telephone and e-mail, the group has interviewed dozens of people who have had connections with 3ABN and the Shelton family over the last 20 years. Two members of the network—Gailon Arthur Joy, a loan officer trainer from Sterling, Massachusetts, and Bob Pickle, a webmaster and Adventist apologist from Halstad, Minnesota—have posted the findings of their investigation on the Internet. Both men espouse belief in a historical, conservative Adventist theology, including the traditional church teachings about 1844 and Ellen G. White, and say that before starting their investigation, they had positive feelings toward 3ABN and its ministry. “3ABN was an integral part of our home TV viewing for more than a decade. My family members have contributed heavily to 3ABN (financially),” says Joy. Joy spearheaded an effort as late as May 2006 to pass out over 6,000 copies of Danny Sheltons book Ten Commandments Twice Removed. Joy and Pickle say they only began investigating when concerned Adventist friends urged them to help them verify or dismiss rumors of misconduct at the 3ABN. As they conducted their initial investigation, both men became impressed that what was happening behind the scenes at 3ABN didnt mesh with the rosy picture they had seen on their television screens. In late 2006, Joy, who has experience as a legal clerk, was asked by Linda Shelton to represent her as she negotiated the ground rules for an inquiry by Adventist-laymen’s Services and Industries (ASI) into the propriety of her divorce from Danny Shelton. Harold Lance, a retired attorney and former president of the self-supporting organization, Outpost Centers Incorporated, led the inquiry. In early 2007, the ASI-brokered negotiations fell apart early, due in part to the inability of the two parties to reach an understanding on the manner or scope of the inquiry. Lance, who had been asked to head up the inquiry by the ASI Executive Committee in October, summarized the dissolution of the inquiry in an e-mail statement on January 5. “For approximately three months ASI has deeply considered its’ involvement in issues involving 3ABN in three special Executive Committee meetings called for that purpose and multiple other contacts.” Lance wrote. “It now appears that it is not appropriate for ASI to be involved.” Joy has registered a website at www.save3abn.com that contains documents and statements from various sources involved in the groups investigation of Tommy Shelton. As of press time, the site had received more than 1,900 hits. Joy and Pickle have a growing list of e-mail contacts, many in church leadership, to whom they plan to send periodic communication, chronicling what they see as areas in which 3ABN must be held to higher accountability. Adventist Today offered Dr. Thompson, in his capacity as 3ABN Board Chairman, an opportunity to confirm, disconfirm, or provide additional information concerning the accuracy of the parts of this report that cover areas about which he had direct, personal knowledge. In an e-mail to the Executive Editor of Adventist Today, he stated that in view of a conversation that he had had with Danny Shelton, he would “withhold further comment at present.” [To comment or inquire about this story, e-mail AToday] Southern Illinois Hometown City Leaders Laud Danny Sheltons Support By Edwin D. Schwisow, for ATNewsbreak (09 February 2007). Danny Shelton, 3ABN president, is very willing to lend a helping hand financially to the civic needs of his boyhood town of West Frankfort, Illinois, say several prominent people there. “If our city had a meaningful project we needed to have a joint relationship financially with Three Angels, I anticipate that wouldnt be a problem,” says Larry Warren, mayor of West Frankfort. Warren goes on to describe how Shelton used 3ABN to promote the Roan Center, a home for abused women and children. On a November 24, 2006, broadcast of 3ABN Today, Shelton interviewed Sara Bond, one of the Centers founders about mission of the organization and asked his viewers to send in donations to help Bond accomplish her goals. Shelton also pledged $5,000 from 3ABN to help Bond with her project. Bond recently thanked 3ABN in an article published in the February 1 edition of the West Frankfort Press American. In the article, she said that the broadcast had raised $4,490 so far and that she continued to receive consistent donations from 3ABN viewers. “We have had donations from Oregon, California, Florida, Georgia, Illinois, Kentucky, Tennessee, Arizona,” Bond said in the article. Franklin Community High School (FCHS) in West Frankfort has received thousands of dollars from Shelton as well according to Richard Glodich, athletic director at the school. “Danny Shelton and 3ABN are an asset to our school. Theres no doubt about it,” says Glodich. ”Any time were in need of help, Mr. Shelton is always willing to help.” Glodich estimates 3ABN has donated $30,000 to the athletic department of FCHS alone during the 10 years hes been athletic director. He says that Shelton donated several thousand dollars to the school to help modernize their weight room and donated money towards athletic fields at the local junior high school. 3ABN donated close to $10,000 in prizes for the schools Red Ribbon Week, Glodich says. He says they brought cameramen out to videotape the event so it could be publicized locally. According to Glodich, it was a donation by 3ABN and Shelton that was the catalyst for a peer-mentoring program to begin on campus. Dubbed Alpha groups, the program enables juniors and seniors at the school to spend an hour each Thursday visiting with students in the freshman and sophomore classes, building friendships and urging them to stay clear of alcohol and drugs. Danny Shelton is also a regular at FCHS Cardinal athletic events, especially mens varsity basketball games Glodich says. “Oh yeah, we see him all the time, probably at least 10 times a year, hes here for games.” For many in West Frankfort, Danny Shelton is a man to admire. His philanthropy and personal “rags to riches” story of establishing 3ABN has endeared him to many admirers in the town his hometown. Interestingly many in the small city of Thompsonville have very different sentiments. Their viewpoints will be explored in an upcoming edition of Adventist Today. -------------------- Here's the thing - "...if you pull "folks" into a fight you don't know what "weapon" they will bring." PrincessDrRe "A man who digs a pit for others to fall into, will end up falling into it himself. And if a man rolls a stone on someone, the stone will roll back on him". Said Solomon the wise, Proverbs 26:27 "No man can follow Christ and go astray." William H.P. Faunce "If I could hear Christ praying for me in the next room, I would not fear a million enemies. Yet distance makes no difference. He is praying for me." Robert M. McCheyne Click here for Linda Shelton's newly updated website |
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Feb 12 2007, 01:54 PM
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so I guess now they are going to sue AToday?
-------------------- "you are as sick as your secrets...." -quote from Celebrity Rehab-
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Feb 12 2007, 02:04 PM
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[Looks like the church is starting to move to provide some leadership on this topic.
Praise the lord. erik QUOTE(Clay @ Feb 12 2007, 11:54 AM) [snapback]177704[/snapback] so I guess now they are going to sue AToday? I was wondering the same thing This post has been edited by erik: Feb 12 2007, 02:04 PM |
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Feb 12 2007, 02:13 PM
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I'm glad to see leaders of our church waking up!
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Feb 12 2007, 02:15 PM
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QUOTE(Grace @ Feb 12 2007, 01:13 PM) [snapback]177710[/snapback] I'm glad to see leaders of our church waking up! Where? The citation came from the Adventist Today website. AT is independent. It is not comprised of SDA leaders. They are independent, just like us! -------------------- Gregory Matthews posts here under the name "Observer."
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Feb 12 2007, 02:25 PM
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Gregory,
I would think there would be one difference. The group they refer to, I am going to assume, would be Gailon A. Joy, Bob Pickle, and yourself. They identify you as "conservative" in your theological leanings. They also identify 3ABN viewership and financial supports as being largely "conservative." On the other hand, isn't AT considered to be rather liberal in their theology and editorial direction? Don't most church leaders view them as being left of the old Spectrum publication? - FHB QUOTE(Observer @ Feb 12 2007, 04:15 PM) [snapback]177711[/snapback] Where? The citation came from the Adventist Today website. AT is independent. It is not comprised of SDA leaders. They are independent, just like us! -------------------- But beware. Anger, fear, aggression. The dark side are they. Once you start down the dark path, forever will it dominate your destiny. - Yoda
If you would convince a man that he does wrong, do right. But do not care to convince him. Men will believe what they see. Let them see. - Henry David Thoreau May those who love us love us. And those who don’t love us– may God turn their hearts. And if He cannot turn their hearts, may He turn their ankles, so that we may know them by their limping. - Keeping Faith |
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Feb 12 2007, 02:28 PM
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QUOTE(Observer @ Feb 12 2007, 12:15 PM) [snapback]177711[/snapback] Where? The citation came from the Adventist Today website. AT is independent. It is not comprised of SDA leaders. They are independent, just like us! Well thank you for that information, maybe the leadership will still act while there is time to act. Erik |
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Feb 12 2007, 02:37 PM
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QUOTE Franklin Community High School (FCHS) in West Frankfort has received thousands of dollars from Shelton as well according to Richard Glodich, athletic director at the school. “Danny Shelton and 3ABN are an asset to our school. There’s no doubt about it,” says Glodich. ”Any time we’re in need of help, Mr. Shelton is always willing to help.” Glodich estimates 3ABN has donated $30,000 to the athletic department of FCHS alone during the 10 years he’s been athletic director. He says that Shelton donated several thousand dollars to the school to help modernize their weight room and donated money towards athletic fields at the local junior high school. 3ABN donated close to $10,000 in prizes for the school’s Red Ribbon Week, Glodich says. He says they brought cameramen out to videotape the event so it could be publicized locally. so 3abn has enough money that they can give it away.... interesting... to the public school system no less.... This post has been edited by Clay: Feb 12 2007, 02:38 PM -------------------- "you are as sick as your secrets...." -quote from Celebrity Rehab-
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Feb 12 2007, 03:11 PM
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That was my first thought too. The widow's mite going for atheletic equipment and to provide good p.r. for Danny Shelton and for 3ABN! I know he is a sports fan but that is not what people think ABN is going to with their offerings, some even send tithe money and it goes for this? And they know some of the money they get is tithe money. I think it is a very fair article though and better to come out there than evening news.
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Feb 12 2007, 03:17 PM
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QUOTE(Observer @ Feb 12 2007, 09:15 PM) [snapback]177711[/snapback] Where? The citation came from the Adventist Today website. AT is independent. It is not comprised of SDA leaders. They are independent, just like us! Oh! I didn't know. So the waking up has not happened yet. But it has to come. And I'm glad for the article. This post has been edited by Grace: Feb 12 2007, 03:19 PM -------------------- Grace
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Feb 12 2007, 03:23 PM
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QUOTE(fallible humanbeing @ Feb 12 2007, 01:25 PM) [snapback]177717[/snapback] Gregory, I would think there would be one difference. The group they refer to, I am going to assume, would be Gailon A. Joy, Bob Pickle, and yourself. They identify you as "conservative" in your theological leanings. They also identify 3ABN viewership and financial supports as being largely "conservative." On the other hand, isn't AT considered to be rather liberal in their theology and editorial direction? Don't most church leaders view them as being left of the old Spectrum publication? - FHB I consider myself to be a middle of the road SDA. Some of my views may seem to be conservative, and some may seem to be liberal. But, I think I am a moderate. In my opinion, many people consider Adventist Today and Spectrum to be liberal. I do not think that they consider AT to be "left" of Spectrum. Over a period of time both, in my opinon, Adventist Today, and Spectrum have take a complementary role that is not in conflict with each other. AT focuses more on current news. Spectrum focuses more on a scholarly discussion of issues within Adventistm. NOTE: I subscribe to AT and Spectrum. I have subscribed for years to Perspective Digest, and am now subscribing to the Journal of the Adventist Theological Society. If you recognize those, you know that they go from conservative to liberal. But, again, I consider myself to be a moderate. -------------------- Gregory Matthews posts here under the name "Observer."
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Feb 12 2007, 05:09 PM
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QUOTE(Clay @ Feb 12 2007, 12:54 PM) [snapback]177704[/snapback] so I guess now they are going to sue AToday? Or at least they may receive the warning letter from the Minnesota Fourteen. -------------------- Got Peace?
John 14:27 Peace I leave with you; my peace I give you. I do not give to you as the world gives. Do not let your hearts be troubled and do not be afraid. "Truth welcomes examination and doesn't need to defend itself, while deception hides in darkness and blames everyone else." Aunt B, 2007 |
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Feb 12 2007, 05:44 PM
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QUOTE(Clay @ Feb 12 2007, 03:37 PM) [snapback]177722[/snapback] so 3abn has enough money that they can give it away.... interesting... to the public school system no less.... I for one am not happy to hear this. I remember my mother before she died a couple years ago would send 3ABN a good portion of her measly monthly check from the government. Truely a "Widows Mite". Now to find out where it may have been going makes me sick to my stomach. I am glad she is not alive to hear all this. I quit giving soon after Linda was ousted. |
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Feb 12 2007, 09:25 PM
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QUOTE(Clay @ Feb 12 2007, 02:54 PM) [snapback]177704[/snapback] so I guess now they are going to sue AToday? They were threatened even before they came out with the article. You can be sure that they have fully documented everything they have printed. QUOTE(fallible humanbeing @ Feb 12 2007, 03:25 PM) [snapback]177717[/snapback] Gregory, I would think there would be one difference. The group they refer to, I am going to assume, would be Gailon A. Joy, Bob Pickle, and yourself. They identify you as "conservative" in your theological leanings. They also identify 3ABN viewership and financial supports as being largely "conservative." On the other hand, isn't AT considered to be rather liberal in their theology and editorial direction? Don't most church leaders view them as being left of the old Spectrum publication? - FHB Conservative or liberal has next to nothing to do with questions of morals and fiscal responsibility ... and honesty. Conservatives and liberals may disagree on such things as what happened in 1844... but they stand shoulder to shoulder when it comes to basic integrity, decency, honesty, fairness, and handling funds in a manner that is congruent with their mission and publicly stated purposes for their gathering of funds. |
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Feb 12 2007, 11:47 PM
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QUOTE(watchbird @ Feb 12 2007, 11:25 PM) [snapback]177800[/snapback] They were threatened even before they came out with the article. You can be sure that they have fully documented everything they have printed. Conservative or liberal has next to nothing to do with questions of morals and fiscal responsibility ... and honesty. Conservatives and liberals may disagree on such things as what happened in 1844... but they stand shoulder to shoulder when it comes to basic integrity, decency, honesty, fairness, and handling funds in a manner that is congruent with their mission and publicly stated purposes for their gathering of funds. "WIDOW'S' Mites” indeed! Truly sickening to think of how they are used. It has been long known that Danny can get by with anything in that county, because he has the sheriff just where he wants him. About the donations: Anyone who has been to a 3ABN rally and who has watched Danny has seen him be approached by individuals who hand Danny an envelope. Danny usually asks, "Do you need a receipt for this?” and if the answer is "NO" it goes into Danny's pants pocket. If the answer is "Yes, please, .. thank you". he refers them to someone who will make out a receipt. 3ABN has been saying that the "Receipts are more than ever no that Linda is gone" because of the need to write more receipts to keep records looking better now that so many eyes are asking to look. Maybe the dollar amount is getting smaller but the number of recorded contributions is going up. I know of no one who was giving to 3ABN and is still giving. I know of many who have moved their contributions to "The HOPE Channel" instead. Danny has been ultra-upset at both Adventist Today and BSDA for what is reported about 3ABN. Danny has openly attacked AT on his platforms across the country. (Liberal? / conservative? Which would apply to Jesus during His ministry. (Please, Don't get into it here but think about that He was accused of both, it depends on whether they were Pharisees or Gentiles.) AT is composed largely of students and other in Southern California according to one conversation I had with them. They answer to no one, but try to offer a view that you probably wont find anywhere else. And yes they are fussy about their sources. That's probably why it has taken so long to hear about 3ABN again since the firing of Linda. Keep on asking questions? lots of them? Let Danny and Mollie and Hal know that they are under the microscope. It still looks like Danny is the "Buffoon" along the way. It would appear that Hal and Mollie have been pushing the buttons and Danny sings the tunes. Danny actually believes what Hal and Mollie and Shellie and Kuzma tell him, "You're the chosen one". Chosen to be the "fall guy" for all the rest of the stuff. Danny actually thought he could cover up for Tommy by putting him "on the road for 3ABN" and then hiring and rehiring Tommy behind everybody's back. It's tempting to be "loyal" to family, but the family is unhappy with Tommy as well as with Danny. "Run, Brandy, run!”(Too late). Danny believes that Christians are not supposed to sue each other, until it's someone HE wants to sue. Think of how much discovery and documentation would come out of the woodwork in these lawsuits. Support would drop like a rock if the public saw this in the open. The church leaders, as did ASI, will take a step back from this. They will neither support nor condemn 3ABN. They will, however side against child abuse as an issue, but they will steer clear from condemning Danny and 3ABN. I dare say the church leaders know all that we know and more. They, too have their "snoops" and tricks. Let's remember that every one of these individuals in question is a soul that Jesus died for and they need our prayers. They need to listen to God's spirit and humble their hearts and repent. Pray without ceasing, OK!? |
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