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post Mar 2 2007, 06:59 PM
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Good job! Did a "skim" of it and it looks nice...


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QUOTE(PrincessDrRe @ Mar 2 2007, 09:17 PM) [snapback]181765[/snapback]

Good job! Did a "skim" of it and it looks nice...


Maybe if she spent more time working on developing the ministry that she has "always desired to have" she would have achieved it by now. If she is in God's camp then He would help her over the hurdles and over all those "attempts to minimize her and keep her from ministry" (which of course is one of the red herrings that is played by the Lindanites).

She can do whatever she wants as long as her hand is clasped lightly in the hand of the Saviour. She can do nothing as long as all she attempts to do is to destroy the work of God. All she has to do is walk away from the vortex she helped create and focus on her relationship with her God and His leading in her life to minister to those she is lead by His guiding hand to minister to.

She can continue to whine and complain that she is being manipulated, that she is being stifled, but as I recall from my early childhood Sabbath school days and the words of my parents - nothing stops the Lord, nothing can tie the hands of God, nothing keeps us from doing his work. If she were about his work, nothing would stop her . . . unless of course man really is more powerful than God.

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QUOTE(fallible humanbeing @ Mar 2 2007, 09:46 PM) [snapback]181802[/snapback]

Maybe if she spent more time working on developing the ministry that she has "always desired to have" she would have achieved it by now. If she is in God's camp then He would help her over the hurdles and over all those "attempts to minimize her and keep her from ministry" (which of course is one of the red herrings that is played by the Lindanites).

She can do whatever she wants as long as her hand is clasped lightly in the hand of the Saviour. She can do nothing as long as all she attempts to do is to destroy the work of God. All she has to do is walk away from the vortex she helped create and focus on her relationship with her God and His leading in her life to minister to those she is lead by His guiding hand to minister to.

She can continue to whine and complain that she is being manipulated, that she is being stifled, but as I recall from my early childhood Sabbath school days and the words of my parents - nothing stops the Lord, nothing can tie the hands of God, nothing keeps us from doing his work. If she were about his work, nothing would stop her . . . unless of course man really is more powerful than God.

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QUOTE(fallible humanbeing @ Mar 2 2007, 07:46 PM) [snapback]181802[/snapback]

Maybe if she spent more time working on developing the ministry that she has "always desired to have" she would have achieved it by now. If she is in God's camp then He would help her over the hurdles and over all those "attempts to minimize her and keep her from ministry" (which of course is one of the red herrings that is played by the Lindanites).

She can do whatever she wants as long as her hand is clasped lightly in the hand of the Saviour. She can do nothing as long as all she attempts to do is to destroy the work of God. All she has to do is walk away from the vortex she helped create and focus on her relationship with her God and His leading in her life to minister to those she is lead by His guiding hand to minister to.

She can continue to whine and complain that she is being manipulated, that she is being stifled, but as I recall from my early childhood Sabbath school days and the words of my parents - nothing stops the Lord, nothing can tie the hands of God, nothing keeps us from doing his work. If she were about his work, nothing would stop her . . . unless of course man really is more powerful than God.

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QUOTE(fallible humanbeing @ Mar 2 2007, 08:46 PM) [snapback]181802[/snapback]

Maybe if she spent more time working on developing the ministry that she has "always desired to have" she would have achieved it by now. If she is in God's camp then He would help her over the hurdles and over all those "attempts to minimize her and keep her from ministry" (which of course is one of the red herrings that is played by the Lindanites).

She can do whatever she wants as long as her hand is clasped lightly in the hand of the Saviour. She can do nothing as long as all she attempts to do is to destroy the work of God. All she has to do is walk away from the vortex she helped create and focus on her relationship with her God and His leading in her life to minister to those she is lead by His guiding hand to minister to.

She can continue to whine and complain that she is being manipulated, that she is being stifled, but as I recall from my early childhood Sabbath school days and the words of my parents - nothing stops the Lord, nothing can tie the hands of God, nothing keeps us from doing his work. If she were about his work, nothing would stop her . . . unless of course man really is more powerful than God.

- FHB


I tend to agree FHB. Despite all the discussion here, most people, most Adventist don't care about a 3 year old messy divorce. Yeah, we know Linda, you have been hurt, your reputation sullied, lost your job, well stuff happens. Get over it, move on. You are in no position and have no leverage to demand evident of adultery. Now you are going to write a book on the ordeal, so the pity party continues.
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QUOTE(Calvin @ Mar 3 2007, 04:43 AM) [snapback]181888[/snapback]

I tend to agree FHB. Despite all the discussion here, most people, most Adventist don't care about a 3 year old messy divorce. Yeah, we know Linda, you have been hurt, your reputation sullied, lost your job, well stuff happens. Get over it, move on. You are in no position and have no leverage to demand evident of adultery. Now you are going to write a book on the ordeal, so the pity party continues.


I am going to have to chalk these comments as being a "Male" thing. No empathy. Not compassion. No understanding. (IMO QCYAL)

FHB's comments are typical of FHB's twiated and rude character! (IMO QCYAL)

However, Calvin, I haven't been able to digest your comments yet. Give me some time.

In the mean time, how did you ever come up with the idea Linda was having a pity party? Since when is telling your side of a story a pity party? If Danny can broadcast lies about Linda to the world, why can't Linda tell her side? Seems fair to me! (IMO QCYAL)


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But such a character is not the result of accident; it is not due to special favors or endowments of Providence. A noble character is the result of self-discipline, of the subjection of the lower to the higher nature--the surrender of self for the service of love to God and man. {Ed 57.4}
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QUOTE(Fran @ Mar 3 2007, 05:54 AM) [snapback]181892[/snapback]

I am going to have to chalk these comments as being a "Male" thing. No empathy. Not compassion. No understanding. (IMO QCYAL)

FHB's comments are typical of FHB's twiated and rude character! (IMO QCYAL)

However, Calvin, I haven't been able to digest your comments yet. Give me some time.

In the mean time, how did you ever come up with the idea Linda was having a pity party? Since when is telling your side of a story a pity party? If Danny can broadcast lies about Linda to the world, why can't Linda tell her side? Seems fair to me! (IMO QCYAL)

She can tell her story all she wants to. I won’t be buying the book. Someone said “The best revenge is living well” and I would add to that living in God’s grace and love.,,,and also praying that His will be done in our lives.

I could have miss-spoke, I don’t know Linda personally to know the amount of effort she is putting into clearing her name and telling her side of the story. But it appears to me her time would be better spent perusing here music ministry that writing a book.

Yall have admonished Danny for not taking the high road in this ordeal with his ex-wife and business partner. Well now that the gag order on Linda has been lifted and she can speak freely doesn’t mean that she has too, as some here seem to be waiting with baited breath to hear. IMO, the best thing she can to do to repair her image is to let God use the spirit gifts she has to reach others and tell of the good news of Jesus Christ.
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I think it's very reasonable that Linda demand proof of her "affair". I don't see that as being revengeful or vindictive at all. I think writing a book will be a healing process for her and may be helpful to others who might be going through a similiar situation.

And why is it OK for Danny to continue to talk about how he has been and is being wronged but Linda needs to stop whining?
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Regardless of my "lurker"name here, I am a woman. I plan on buying Linda's book. But you know even if I didn't I think this situation is one of the things that will be gone over during the millennium when the books are gone over in heaven and all the behind the scenes things are explained. It will be one of many things. Not all of them about our current lifetimes obviously. God isn't going to "let all these things go".

What has been testified to can't be chalked up to a difference of opinion. Someone is deliberately lying. Lying about more than one thing. Lying about things that don't even matter. I wouldn't want to be the liar when God finally reveals all. While going over this in heaven would be interesting and informative for all, knowing now what has happened and is happening influences our behavior as a church or should influence it toward the situation now. I think this is important.

People seem to really admire the sexually active these days. Frankly, the men are admired and looked upon as "studs". Women who violate church standards are treated entirely differently. The promiscuous women are forgiven but talked about. But both the guilty and the innocent women who are talked about seem to have lost their rights to say no. To protect yourself, you have to speak up and clear yourself.
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QUOTE(calvin @ Mar 3 2007, 07:48 AM) [snapback]181893[/snapback]

She can tell her story all she wants to. I won’t be buying the book. Someone said “The best revenge is living well” and I would add to that living in God’s grace and love.,,,and also praying that His will be done in our lives.

I could have miss-spoke, I don’t know Linda personally to know the amount of effort she is putting into clearing her name and telling her side of the story. But it appears to me her time would be better spent perusing here music ministry that writing a book.

Yall have admonished Danny for not taking the high road in this ordeal with his ex-wife and business partner. Well now that the gag order on Linda has been lifted and she can speak freely doesn’t mean that she has too, as some here seem to be waiting with baited breath to hear. IMO, the best thing she can to do to repair her image is to let God use the spirit gifts she has to reach others and tell of the good news of Jesus Christ.

The part that you seem to be missing, Calvin, is that Linda is still being blocked from pursuing her ministry within the Adventist church. So long as she is being blocked on the grounds of Danny's accusations by authorities within the church, then the issue of her innocence or guilt is not an "old" issue that can be merely laid aside.

Now if the church authorities would change their directives, that no church "take sides" by inviting Linda to their church..... and change them publicly enough so that even individuals within the church heirarchy would not have to consider that their "future" with the church as being dependent on their expressed attitude to what Danny thinks and wants..... THEN there might be some way that Linda could keep completely silent about the past and merely "get on with her life".

Do you think this statement about individuals within the church heirarchy is too strong? Let me assure you that I did not fabricate this from my own imagination.... neither did I get this from Linda or any of those who are publicly on Linda's "side". But I got it directly from conversations with church employees.... some on a very high level.... and the message was not only clear, but explicit and unequivocal..... that any one who was far enough from retirement to need to think of their future in the church would be putting that future in jeopardy if they spoke out either against Danny or for Linda.

And just review the letter from Mabel Dunbar. This should give you an idea of how brave even a Conference supported ministry has to be in order to dare to use Linda in their ministry. And put with that the letter from Samantha to Mabel which explained the reason why Samantha's ministry could no longer cooperate with Polly's Place. And the earlier reports we had of Mabel Dunbar first receiving "warnings" that if she was friendly to Linda she would find her funding in danger... and later we had reports that this had indeed happened.

In the face of this kind of opposition, it is rather naive at best, and could certainly be considered cruel, to say disdainfully that all Linda needs to do is to get on with her life and work on her ministry. There is only so much that anyone can do to "develop a ministry" within the Adventist church with the kind of political pressure against her that has been the case for the past three years.

Sure... she could likely leave the Adventist church and develop a ministry very quickly among the opponents of Adventism. All she would need to do would be to be willing to "give her testimony" of how she had been maligned by the Adventist church. I don't think that is what you are suggesting that she do. At least I hope not.

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QUOTE(daylily @ Mar 3 2007, 09:58 AM) [snapback]181896[/snapback]

I think it's very reasonable that Linda demand proof of her "affair". I don't see that as being revengeful or vindictive at all. I think writing a book will be a healing process for her and may be helpful to others who might be going through a similiar situation.

And why is it OK for Danny to continue to talk about how he has been and is being wronged but Linda needs to stop whining?


DL,

What the book will do is line her pockets. As for Danny's "talk" he has been battered ad nauseum in regards to that here. When Linda "whines" and plays the victim card (which American's do to perfection these days) there are those who are going to give the good old "bootstraps" response.

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QUOTE(fallible humanbeing @ Mar 3 2007, 09:01 AM) [snapback]181910[/snapback]

DL,

What the book will do is line her pockets. As for Danny's "talk" he has been battered ad nauseum in regards to that here. When Linda "whines" and plays the victim card (which American's do to perfection these days) there are those who are going to give the good old "bootstraps" response.

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FHB... hadn't seen you in a while.... did you ever ask that question? Or did you opt not to....just curious.... it was a simple request..... what happened?


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QUOTE(watchbird @ Mar 3 2007, 10:24 AM) [snapback]181902[/snapback]

The part that you seem to be missing, Calvin, is that Linda is still being blocked from pursuing her ministry within the Adventist church. So long as she is being blocked on the grounds of Danny's accusations by authorities within the church, then the issue of her innocence or guilt is not an "old" issue that can be merely laid aside.

Now if the church authorities would change their directives, that no church "take sides" by inviting Linda to their church . . .


WB,

So, now your conspiracy extends all the way to the top with a carefully crafted plan to single out one individual within the entirety of the Adventist church and keep her from doing the work of the Lord? I didn't realize that the institutions of man are stronger than the power of the Lord. If Linda is following God's direction nothing will stop her - especially not man.

Until you present verifiable evidence that this has happened, not trumped up, manufactured, manipulated, or speculated at evidence . . . this has to be identified as a red herring presented by the Lindanites and has to put over to the side as something being used to just detract attention away from Linda's responsibility as the co-founder and one time VP of 3ABN. Maybe the book should provide admission for her role in many of the various issues presented here and on other sites on the Internet.

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