The True Version Of 3abn |
The True Version Of 3abn |
Mar 17 2007, 09:31 PM
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I will change my title due to those here who are distracting from the descrepencies in sisters version by arguing over who authorized it. The title is of no importance only the truth is.
I would like to take certain statments in the Unauthorized Version that are, let's say, less than truthful, and tell the real facts. For those of you who are determined to be against 3abn and DS, the facts won't make a difference to you, but they might to others who really do want truth. The unathorized version will be in red. The facts will be in blue. Long ago when 3ABN started the founders were Danny, Linda and Kenny. FACT. Officially, Danny & Kenny were the founder and cofounder. Danny was the president, Kenny was the vice president. At the time of the "well known" dream, Danny& Linda weren't married yet. Danny kind of lets everyone assume that they are all Seventh-day Adventists... FACT. They all are except for Tommy and that fact has never ever been hidden. In the years of traveling and playing for Danny and Linda, Danny nor Tommy ever tried to hide or insinuate that he was anything but a member of the church of god. People ask all the time and they were told. Now that Linda is out of the picture, more of Danny's family are appearing on the air. FACT. This statement actually has some merit. After Linda's departure,The family began to sing together some, when time allowed. They had not been able to do that since the very early years of 3abn. Why? Because certain people had jealousy issues with it. Many years of just some "down home" family music were lost because of it. a call was placed to the board telling about an affair that Kenny had had a while before, Kenny was removed from his postion and no one was left in the way of Danny becoming the face, along with Linda, of 3ABN. FACT. Kenny was not dismissed for any such reason. They were personal differences between Kenny & Danny while they were under the very stressful situation of getting 3abn off of the ground. Does it seem Linda perpetuated and enhanced those differences between brothers? Yes it certainly does. That speaks for itself in the very fact that Linda took Kenny's place as Vice President when her previous position had been a secretary and the writer of the first small newsletter. Kenny tryed to build up his own ministry using the Herren church as his foundation FACT. The town is spelled, Herrin and there was no church in Herrin at that time. In fact after passing out flyers and books for several months, Kenny held evangelistic meetings in the town of Herrin and those few babtisms that came out of those meetings were the beginning of the church and ministry. For quite some time, the little group rented a girl scout cabin in town to hold their sabbath services. Eventually the congregation grew and they purchased a mechanics garage and converted it, into a small church. Soon he started taking over the local church and going in a direction that was not in line with the Conference. FACT. My previous fact above would take in this false statement as well. Kenny started the Herrin Adventist church. He built the church from the ground up starting with about 6 members and eventually grew into about 120 member church. When they outgrew the little garage they built on a large sancutary and classrooms. The church members and the pastor paid for the church and all the rennovations. All of this had taken years of sacrifice and hard work. Once it was all done and the congregation there, the Conference decided they would take ownership of the church and send a conference pastor there. The conference had asked Kenny to become an ordained conference pastor and he refused. He felt he and God had raised up this church for a reason and he didn't eventually want to be moved from the area, as is the habit with conference pastors. The church had an open meeting, gave the conference official time to have his say and unanimously voted to stay as they were. The conference refused to listen and the next time a pastor was sent to the area churches, he was told to make the Behold the Lamb SDA church his own. He started showing up and insisting to take the pulpit. He was told kindly that wasn't going to happen. He then began coming to visit every week and would circulate at potluck asking people their names and addresses so, as their pastor, he could visit them. He was ask nicely to please stop this childish actions. He refused. After enough commotion had been raised by him over several weeks, he was told that his actions were causing disturbance and hindering the spirit of the sabbath services so, he was no longer welcome to visit. He was back the next week. The elders met him at the door and told him enough was enough and refused him entrance into the church. He was never touched in any way. Conclusion. They became an SDA independent church and ministry and continued to grow and flourish. At all times the church membership had full vote and full control as to the decicisions that were made. A number of years later, Kenny and his wife divorced, but they did not want to loose the income from the ministry, so it was done very privately. FACT.Sadly after 30+ years, Kenny and his wife were divorced. Doing so privately had nothing to do with "income" from the ministry as the Ministry was lucky most months to break even. They kept it private from the church for several months for 1 reason. To give their themselves and their children time to adjust without being in the public eye, and to show the church that they were capable of still working together for the cause, even with their personal differences. Now that Linda is gone Tommy has the postion of producer at 3ABN. Kenny has joined the band wagon as well. FACT. Kenny has joined no bandwagon. Without Linda in the picture Danny and Kenny were able to reconcile their, years earlier, differences and have a good relationship once again. Kenny joined some of the family music specials and was invited to speak at the 10 commandment weekend last year, which he did. That has been the extent of his involvement. Molly's current position at 3ABN, since the demise of Linda: General Manager of 3ABN, member of the board of 3ABN, Danny's right hand. FACT. Mollie was always Danny's right hand man whether in her position as executive assistant or General Manager. Linda's departure had no effect whatsoever on Mollie's position. I won't even address all the rest of the chapter concerning Mollie at this time. Why? Because there are too many falsehoods that would have to be clarified and would take more time than I have to devote to this right now. Hopefully I will be able to address it later. About five to six years ago, Danny suddenly saw the need for a school on the 3ABN grounds. The timing just happened to be the same as his grandchilden were ready to begin school. Over the years there have always been school aged children belonging to the families of the 3ABN workers and the need for the school had always been there. But now it appeared for Danny that the time was over ripe. FACT. When 3abn is still in it's infancy, they built a little one or 2 room school at the site of the original 3abn building. There weren't many workers at 3abn at that time, that had school age children. Even though parents at some of the local churches would have liked for their children to go no one wanted to drive that far everyday twice a day to take their children out there. As I said, it was early on, the budget was already squeezed to the limit and there just wasn't enough students to support it. They hoped in time, as the ministry grew, that they would be able to build a "real" school and eventually they did. The gym that sister mentions that was supposedly strictly for Danny, is the PE area and recess if the weather is bad. It is used for Skating on certain nights for anyone that wants to come and is also used for any fund raisers or special banquets for the school. They have mens basketball one night a week that is open to the public and there is still room for the players to bring their children to skate or ride on scooters at the same time. During campmeeting the gym serves as the cafeteria. There are also church and school socials held there, as well as 3abn's yearly day of prayer. Now, I have addressed just a few of sister's fallicies or fantasies or whatever you want to call them and have given the true story. You all did not know who sisters was. But, you took what she wrote as truth and those topics have been discussed as fact all of these months. I would ask that you would give these truths the same consideration and that you would also plainly see, how bits and pieces of truth can change the whole story by either, adding things that didn't happen, or eliminating things that did. I will address much more of this as time permits and hope and pray that you will see the false pattern that was established in the beginning and has been added to, ever since. This post has been edited by Bystander: Mar 18 2007, 03:02 PM |
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Mar 17 2007, 09:37 PM
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5,000 + posts Group: Administrator Posts: 11,143 Joined: 21-July 03 From: Northern California Member No.: 47 Gender: f |
BS, didn't I tell you to take a chill pill, Man? Dang!!! Lighten up just for tonight! There is plenty of time for this!
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Di And we know that all things work together for good to them that love God, to them who are the called according to his purpose---Romans 8:28 A great many people believe they are thinking when they are merely rearranging their prejudices.-- William James It is better to be silent and be thought a fool, than to speak and remove all doubt.- Mark Twain |
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Mar 17 2007, 09:42 PM
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Thank you Bystander for setting this straight. I really appreciate the information!
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Mar 17 2007, 09:47 PM
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1,000 + posts Group: Members Posts: 1,483 Joined: 29-July 06 Member No.: 1,960 Gender: m |
I wonder, Bystander, who specifically authorized you to write this "authorized" version?
Can you quote the minutes of the board action for us that authorized this and give the date of the action? Or, if it wasn't a board action, can you quote the actual written or verbal instructions you received, and state from whom you received them? |
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Mar 17 2007, 09:54 PM
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Go away!! Give it a rest. Enjoy the rest of the good information here.
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Mar 17 2007, 10:04 PM
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QUOTE(princessdi @ Mar 17 2007, 08:37 PM) [snapback]186010[/snapback] BS, didn't I tell you to take a chill pill, Man? Dang!!! Lighten up just for tonight! There is plenty of time for this! Di, I appreciate the suggestion and it was a suggestion right? Not an order. I appreciate your invitations, but am here for only one purpose. To straighten out the myths, rumors and falsehoods against 3abn. I wonder if anyone told Sister to go away or chill when she first put on her "version" of things? Just something to think about. |
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Mar 17 2007, 10:04 PM
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5,000 + posts Group: Administrator Posts: 11,143 Joined: 21-July 03 From: Northern California Member No.: 47 Gender: f |
You, too! Y'all chill out.....believe or not you ARE regular members here enjoy the site. Fellowship with the rest of us, Join the Heathen Family Tree, paly a game...somethin' It's Saturday night, Sheesh!! have some fun!
QUOTE(Lee @ Mar 17 2007, 08:42 PM) [snapback]186011[/snapback] Thank you Bystander for setting this straight. I really appreciate the information! -------------------- TTFN
Di And we know that all things work together for good to them that love God, to them who are the called according to his purpose---Romans 8:28 A great many people believe they are thinking when they are merely rearranging their prejudices.-- William James It is better to be silent and be thought a fool, than to speak and remove all doubt.- Mark Twain |
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Mar 17 2007, 10:05 PM
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1,000 + posts Group: Members Posts: 1,018 Joined: 30-April 06 From: USA Member No.: 1,709 Gender: f |
QUOTE(Bystander @ Mar 17 2007, 08:31 PM) [snapback]186008[/snapback] I would like to take certain statments in the Unauthorized Version that are, let's say, less than truthful... (SNIP) Certain statements - I have no doubt. Sad. Well, now we know where you have been and what you have been up to. Does the name of Kathy mean anything to you BS?? So, was there anything between Kenny and Kathy that was brought to the board??? You're right...more to come. -------------------- Here's the thing - "...if you pull "folks" into a fight you don't know what "weapon" they will bring." PrincessDrRe "A man who digs a pit for others to fall into, will end up falling into it himself. And if a man rolls a stone on someone, the stone will roll back on him". Said Solomon the wise, Proverbs 26:27 "No man can follow Christ and go astray." William H.P. Faunce "If I could hear Christ praying for me in the next room, I would not fear a million enemies. Yet distance makes no difference. He is praying for me." Robert M. McCheyne Click here for Linda Shelton's newly updated website |
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Mar 17 2007, 10:06 PM
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5,000 + posts Group: Administrator Posts: 11,143 Joined: 21-July 03 From: Northern California Member No.: 47 Gender: f |
No, we didn't have to. She does interact with the rest of the members. It is a pity that you are determined to be at odds with everyone here. Your loss!
Ok, so I tired. I just don't know how you all can come off Sabbath rest, praise and worship to start slinging mud the minute the sun goes down.....Sad....Didn't you even want to linger in the presence of God, by fellowshipping a while with your brothers and sisters in Christ? Really sad QUOTE(Bystander @ Mar 17 2007, 09:04 PM) [snapback]186016[/snapback] Di, I appreciate the suggestion and it was a suggestion right? Not an order. I appreciate your invitations, but am here for only one purpose. To straighten out the myths, rumors and falsehoods against 3abn. I wonder if anyone told Sister to go away or chill when she first put on her "version" of things? Just something to think about. -------------------- TTFN
Di And we know that all things work together for good to them that love God, to them who are the called according to his purpose---Romans 8:28 A great many people believe they are thinking when they are merely rearranging their prejudices.-- William James It is better to be silent and be thought a fool, than to speak and remove all doubt.- Mark Twain |
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Mar 17 2007, 10:06 PM
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QUOTE(Lee @ Mar 17 2007, 10:42 PM) [snapback]186011[/snapback] Thank you Bystander for setting this straight. I really appreciate the information! Lee, On what basis have you decided that he has set this straight? Specifically, how were you able to research his information in a mere 11 minutes (the time span between his and your posts) and decided that his information was accurate? Doesn't your statement suggest that you aren't careful in making conclusions? But I think he has made some interesting points that are useful to look at. For example, he asserts that Linda has never been a co-founder of 3ABN. Is that true? If it is, why does the following web page indicate otherwise? How did this alleged misinformation get put on this page? Was it put there by a friend or foe? QUOTE 3ABN: Three Angels Broadcasting Network Independent 24-hour Christian Television Network established by Danny and Linda Shelton in 1984 with a mission to reach the world with the gospel. Includes streaming video. (Alexa's list of Independent Ministries) And what would their not being yet married at the time have anything to do with it, since the 3ABN story even quotes Linda's reaction to the vision/dream/impression? This post has been edited by Pickle: Mar 17 2007, 10:09 PM |
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Mar 17 2007, 10:14 PM
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PrincessDrRe Group: Financial Donor Posts: 9,011 Joined: 8-November 04 Member No.: 712 Gender: f |
*sigh* -------------------- *"Some folks use their ignorance like a umbrella. It covers everything, they perodically take it out from time to time, but it never is too far away from them."*
PrincessDrRe; March, 2007 ~"Blood = Meat, Face = Meat, Internal "Organs" = Meat - you can try to make it cuter; but it's still meat...."~ PrincessDrRe; September, 2007 *(NOTE: Any advice given by Re' Silvey, MSW is not to be taken as medical/mental health advice. Although trained to be a counselor, currently employed as a therapist, and currently pursuing her PhD in Counseling Psychology (ABD/I) - she is not your assigned therapist. Please consult a mental health professional of your choice for a face-to-face consultation.)* |
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Mar 17 2007, 10:19 PM
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5,000 + posts Group: Administrator Posts: 11,143 Joined: 21-July 03 From: Northern California Member No.: 47 Gender: f |
I truly feel the same way, Re'..........
QUOTE(PrincessDrRe @ Mar 17 2007, 09:14 PM) [snapback]186022[/snapback] *sigh* -------------------- TTFN
Di And we know that all things work together for good to them that love God, to them who are the called according to his purpose---Romans 8:28 A great many people believe they are thinking when they are merely rearranging their prejudices.-- William James It is better to be silent and be thought a fool, than to speak and remove all doubt.- Mark Twain |
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Mar 17 2007, 10:21 PM
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QUOTE(Pickle @ Mar 17 2007, 09:06 PM) [snapback]186020[/snapback] Lee, On what basis have you decided that he has set this straight? Specifically, how were you able to research his information in a mere 11 minutes (the time span between his and your posts) and decided that his information was accurate? Doesn't your statement suggest that you aren't careful in making conclusions? But I think he has made some interesting points that are useful to look at. For example, he asserts that Linda has never been a co-founder of 3ABN. Is that true? If it is, why does the following web page indicate otherwise? How did this alleged misinformation get put on this page? Was it put there by a friend or foe? And what would their not being yet married at the time have anything to do with it, since the 3ABN story even quotes Linda's reaction to the vision/dream/impression? I'm sure Lee won't mind if I answer this. Go back to the unauthorized version. See the immediate responses made by the posters there to the stories that sister told. Do you get that? The Immediate responses. No one researched and "checked anything out" before they made their comments. Across the board Pickle or not at all... Linda and Danny weren't married, to my knowledge until a week or so after the dream so obviously Pickle, they were dating. That is why she was in the position to comment on it. This post has been edited by Bystander: Mar 17 2007, 10:22 PM |
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Mar 17 2007, 10:24 PM
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500 + posts Group: Financial Donor Posts: 629 Joined: 8-August 04 From: Over here Member No.: 529 Gender: f |
Somebody pinch me! I think I am re-reading Sybil. Will the "Real Bystander" please stand up?
-------------------- The greatest want of the world is the want of men-- men who will not be bought or sold, men who in their inmost souls are true and honest, men who do not fear to call sin by its right name, men whose conscience is as true to duty as the needle to the pole, men who will stand for the right though the heavens fall. {Ed 57.3}
But such a character is not the result of accident; it is not due to special favors or endowments of Providence. A noble character is the result of self-discipline, of the subjection of the lower to the higher nature--the surrender of self for the service of love to God and man. {Ed 57.4} |
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Mar 17 2007, 10:28 PM
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QUOTE(Bystander @ Mar 17 2007, 10:31 PM) [snapback]186008[/snapback] FACT.Sadly after 30+ years, Kenny and his wife were divorced. This guy just called me and claims that it was the affair with Chris that broke up their marriage. Kenny, is that true? This post has been edited by Pickle: Mar 17 2007, 10:28 PM |
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