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post Mar 18 2007, 12:08 PM
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These private emails that Linda is making public do little to vindicate her. To the casual observer of this very messy and public divorce, these letters raise more questions in this he said/she said drama. Linda comes across as the one who as not moved on after three years that is wearing old and tired for many people.

In reading these emails from Danny on save3abn, the one consistence thing throughout is Danny’s concern and believe that his wife was spending far too much time on the phone with the Dr. For you insiders, you say this is all a smoke screen, a convenience excuse to rid of his wife, doesn’t appear that way. So was Linda spending hours a day on the phone, and why? Was she being discreet or openly taunting her husband? When you know something is a hot button with your spouse to the point that it could jeopardize your marriage and your job, after warning by several people around you, why would you continue to do it?

I think Linda would have done better by taking the high road, moving on with her life, her ministry if that is what she wants to do. Let others bash around this story. Now she comes across as another bitter, revengeful ex-wife.
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post Mar 18 2007, 12:21 PM
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One question, Calvin, is whether Linda is the one who has made these emails public. That site has explicitly marked some of them as not coming from her.

You've asked some good questions: How long was she talking on the phone, and why?

John Lomacang, Walt, Hal, and Danny have all claimed that they can prove the length, frequency, and/or content of these phone calls, and yet they refuse to do so.

Still, the questions remain. I asked a BSDA'er yesterday (not in PM) why Linda didn't just stop if her husband wanted her to stop. She said that a mother will do anything for her child.

But one thing is clear: Danny had no grounds for divorce, and even Walt claims that a year after the crisis, he still had no evidence that Linda had committed adultery.

How long and how frequent were those phone calls, and what was the content of those conversations, and to whom were they all made? I'd like to know that myself.
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post Mar 18 2007, 01:10 PM
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QUOTE(Pickle @ Mar 18 2007, 11:21 AM) [snapback]186188[/snapback]

One question, Calvin, is whether Linda is the one who has made these emails public. That site has explicitly marked some of them as not coming from her.

You've asked some good questions: How long was she talking on the phone, and why?

John Lomacang, Walt, Hal, and Danny have all claimed that they can prove the length, frequency, and/or content of these phone calls, and yet they refuse to do so.

Still, the questions remain. I asked a BSDA'er yesterday (not in PM) why Linda didn't just stop if her husband wanted her to stop. She said that a mother will do anything for her child.

But one thing is clear: Danny had no grounds for divorce, and even Walt claims that a year after the crisis, he still had no evidence that Linda had committed adultery.

How long and how frequent were those phone calls, and what was the content of those conversations, and to whom were they all made? I'd like to know that myself.

it's seems easy to assume that the evidence they claim to have on Linda is probably very questionable as to proving their cause and also questionable in the legal means in which it was obtained.
--->and to Calvin<--- i'm not sure why you criticize Linda assessing she is carrying on after 3yrs. when the Danny hasn't shut up to this day. Also, the poor girl was coerced (sp) into a gag order or walk out empty handed. All the while 3abn airtime was being used to tell the world not of the 3 angels message but of the sordid accusations and assumptions that a bitter, controlling husband has toward his ex-wife. how can you peg Linda this way and not Danny. She seems from all i have observed to have taken the high road as far as the public is concerned and was quiet and still is pretty quiet about the whole thing. these emails from him to her don't sound like a man with all his wits about him. he is mocking and egging her on to react to him. sounds to me like he is trying his best to make her blow so he can say: "see, see how she is". these are not the actions of a stable or Christian man. how long would you expect yourself to keep quiet when Danny is shouting out to the whole world what a terrible person you are on his own sattelite station! what platform does Linda have calvin? i think your assessment is being very unfair.


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QUOTE(mozart @ Mar 18 2007, 02:10 PM) [snapback]186202[/snapback]

these emails from him to her don't sound like a man with all his wits about him. he is mocking and egging her on to react to him. sounds to me like he is trying his best to make her blow so he can say: "see, see how she is". these are not the actions of a stable or Christian man.



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post Mar 18 2007, 01:46 PM
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QUOTE(mozart @ Mar 18 2007, 01:10 PM) [snapback]186202[/snapback]

it's seems easy to assume that the evidence they claim to have on Linda is probably very questionable as to proving their cause and also questionable in the legal means in which it was obtained.
--->and to Calvin<--- i'm not sure why you criticize Linda assessing she is carrying on after 3yrs. when the Danny hasn't shut up to this day. Also, the poor girl was coerced (sp) into a gag order or walk out empty handed. All the while 3abn airtime was being used to tell the world not of the 3 angels message but of the sordid accusations and assumptions that a bitter, controlling husband has toward his ex-wife. how can you peg Linda this way and not Danny. She seems from all i have observed to have taken the high road as far as the public is concerned and was quiet and still is pretty quiet about the whole thing. these emails from him to her don't sound like a man with all his wits about him. he is mocking and egging her on to react to him. sounds to me like he is trying his best to make her blow so he can say: "see, see how she is". these are not the actions of a stable or Christian man. how long would you expect yourself to keep quiet when Danny is shouting out to the whole world what a terrible person you are on his own sattelite station! what platform does Linda have calvin? i think your assessment is being very unfair.

I seriously question whether this bashing of Linda by Danny is still continuing. Danny when on for 40 minutes last month on live 3abn about the lies being told about him, but made no mention of Linda,. No mention of Linda on 3abn website, no mention of Linda in 3abn World magazine (my sister-law is on the cover, BTW). The public does not see any Linda bashing, as least not anymore.... and please don't tell me Danny is spending time staying one step ahead of Linda making contacts to keep her from working, he has remarried and moved on, time for Lind to do the same.
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Calvin, if you consider the date on at least the email posted here>>>>>Email You will find that it is well after the time Linda has signed the gag order, and once again only Danny's side. He has plenty of time and opportunity to "set the stage" as he pleases. He said showed concnern in this email. Once again this email is sent, when Linda cannot respond. I doubt she would authorize the release of such a one sided account. This is why you have to look beyond the surface. And once again, I owuld have to ask where Danny was for Linda to hae these huge amounts of time for the phone, trips, allt aht he claims? Nobody else is aksing that question,a nd nobody has yet to answer.


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[quote] name='calvin' date='Mar 18 2007, 02:46 PM' post='186215'
I seriously question whether this bashing of Linda by Danny is still continuing. Danny when on for 40 minutes last month on live 3abn about the lies being told about him, but made no mention of Linda,. No mention of Linda on 3abn website, no mention of Linda in 3abn World magazine (my sister-law is on the cover, BTW). The public does not see any Linda bashing, as least not anymore.... and please don't tell me Danny is spending time staying one step ahead of Linda making contacts to keep her from working, he has remarried and moved on, time for Lind to do the same.[quote]



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post Mar 18 2007, 03:43 PM
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Calvin,

Are you saying that we should cease these discussions about Danny, Linda, Tommy, 3ABN, etc. and let them all get on with their lives?

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IMO the letters DO NOT make Linda look bad... to me it shows that Danny was not handling his business.... for if he was Linda would not have been spending lots of time on the phone with a person trying to get help for her son or processing that information..... Had he Danny been the husband he should have been, he would have been that listening ear.... Then he had the nerve to get ticked cause his wife was spending time on the phone.....

He should have stepped up and been a man.... instead of parading around with his short self trying to be emperor of all he surveyed, he should have attempted to do all he could humanly do for his stepson.....

So for me it shows that Danny came up short...... then wanted to blame Linda......


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QUOTE(calvin @ Mar 18 2007, 11:08 AM) [snapback]186185[/snapback]

These private emails that Linda is making public do little to vindicate her. To the casual observer of this very messy and public divorce, these letters raise more questions in this he said/she said drama. Linda comes across as the one who as not moved on after three years that is wearing old and tired for many people.

In reading these emails from Danny on save3abn, the one consistence thing throughout is Danny’s concern and believe that his wife was spending far too much time on the phone with the Dr. For you insiders, you say this is all a smoke screen, a convenience excuse to rid of his wife, doesn’t appear that way. So was Linda spending hours a day on the phone, and why? Was she being discreet or openly taunting her husband? When you know something is a hot button with your spouse to the point that it could jeopardize your marriage and your job, after warning by several people around you, why would you continue to do it?

I think Linda would have done better by taking the high road, moving on with her life, her ministry if that is what she wants to do. Let others bash around this story. Now she comes across as another bitter, revengeful ex-wife.


Calvin you nailed it. Not to mention, that these emails only confirm DS's statements all along.
1. He did not want to get a rid of a wife he dearly loved. Proven by the fact of his email to her of sept, months after the divorce where he calls her Doll, and tells her that it is still not too late for their marriage or her ministry at 3abn.
If he was looking for a way to dump her why on earth would he still be offering reconciliation that long after the divorce?

2. The emails prove that he believed 100% that LS was being unfaithful with the Doc. The frustration, anger and hurt show through.

3.The ongoing exchange of emails to Johann and the doc and LS does not point, at all, to a man who was looking for excuses to get rid of his wife. Quite the opposite. They prove that he was fighting tooth and nail to keep her and to get her out of this relationship.

4. The emails that warn her that she is being watched is completely opposite of someone wanting to "set up" their spouse. Had he wanted excuses to dump her, he would have never told her she was being watched. Anyone can see he was just desperately trying to get her away from the Doc.

5. The big hoopla here over the chocolate covered poop originated from her reference of the Doc being chocolate cake to her. Again, confirmed in the emails.

I feel like I am living in the twilight zone. While you all are going on about poop, the emails posted to go against Ds, actually exonerate him!!! No one would keep fighting like that for their wife if they didn't love her and only wanted to get rid of her. How could not see those emails as confirmation that DS was telling the truth all along?
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QUOTE(Bystander @ Mar 18 2007, 05:08 PM) [snapback]186254[/snapback]

Calvin you nailed it. Not to mention, that these emails only confirm DS's statements all along.
1. He did not want to get a rid of a wife he dearly loved. Proven by the fact of his email to her of sept, months after the divorce where he calls her Doll, and tells her that it is still not too late for their marriage or her ministry at 3abn.
If he was looking for a way to dump her why on earth would he still be offering reconciliation that long after the divorce?

2. The emails prove that he believed 100% that LS was being unfaithful with the Doc. The frustration, anger and hurt show through.

3.The ongoing exchange of emails to Johann and the doc and LS does not point, at all, to a man who was looking for excuses to get rid of his wife. Quite the opposite. They prove that he was fighting tooth and nail to keep her and to get her out of this relationship.

4. The emails that warn her that she is being watched is completely opposite of someone wanting to "set up" their spouse. Had he wanted excuses to dump her, he would have never told her she was being watched. Anyone can see he was just desperately trying to get her away from the Doc.

5. The big hoopla here over the chocolate covered poop originated from her reference of the Doc being chocolate cake to her. Again, confirmed in the emails.

I feel like I am living in the twilight zone. While you all are going on about poop, the emails posted to go against Ds, actually exonerate him!!! No one would keep fighting like that for their wife if they didn't love her and only wanted to get rid of her. How could not see those emails as confirmation that DS was telling the truth all along?

again you are entitled to your opinion.... even when you are wrong..... and full of.... propaganda..... for the record... Calvin can read it and come to that conclusion, I disagree with his conclusion and have shared my opinion from what I have read in those letters.... you however Bystander are simply wrong...


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QUOTE(Daryl Fawcett @ Mar 18 2007, 03:43 PM) [snapback]186247[/snapback]

Calvin,

Are you saying that we should cease these discussions about Danny, Linda, Tommy, 3ABN, etc. and let them all get on with their lives?

Well Darryl, let me say that if we stopped the discussion on BSDA today, I would not miss it or complain. But it is not really about want I think is interesting to discussion. We rarely close topics here, but let them die a nature death for lack of interest, so the same will apply wit 3abn....and occasionally I will take off my administrator hat and chime in.
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QUOTE(Bystander @ Mar 18 2007, 03:08 PM) [snapback]186254[/snapback]

Calvin you nailed it.
I feel like I am living in the twilight zone.....How could not see those emails as confirmation that DS was telling the truth all along?




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You should feel like you are in the twilight zone. Exonerate him? ARE YOU KIDDING? You appear to be mixed up. You can't save DS from his own words. He is who he is. But, no doubt you will continue, and my guess is 'it' will get worse before it get's better.

It is clear, however, that he has to come up with some kind of spin on these since they are out.... it is highly unlikely he will ever admit to any wrong he has done, so his only other option is to get even more creative to make it all look OK. I would expect nothing more or less from him. He's in pretty deep, and it's not hidden 'behind the scenes' any more. Nothing like the real deal!

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QUOTE(calvin @ Mar 18 2007, 02:46 PM) [snapback]186215[/snapback]

I seriously question whether this bashing of Linda by Danny is still continuing. Danny when on for 40 minutes last month on live 3abn about the lies being told about him, but made no mention of Linda,. No mention of Linda on 3abn website, no mention of Linda in 3abn World magazine (my sister-law is on the cover, BTW). The public does not see any Linda bashing, as least not anymore.... and please don't tell me Danny is spending time staying one step ahead of Linda making contacts to keep her from working, he has remarried and moved on, time for Lind to do the same.

Calvin,

I personally heard Danny in that 40 minutes on the Feb. 15, 2007, broadcast say that the "little group" was conspiring to put 3ABN under the control of Linda. There may have been other insinuations too, but that is one I remember.

Also on Dec. 31, Larry Ewing bashed Tommy's predecessor, which would have to be Linda.
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QUOTE(princessdi @ Mar 18 2007, 03:01 PM) [snapback]186216[/snapback]

Calvin, if you consider the date on at least the email posted here>>>>>Email You will find that it is well after the time Linda has signed the gag order, and once again only Danny's side. He has plenty of time and opportunity to "set the stage" as he pleases. He said showed concnern in this email. Once again this email is sent, when Linda cannot respond. I doubt she would authorize the release of such a one sided account. This is why you have to look beyond the surface. And once again, I owuld have to ask where Danny was for Linda to hae these huge amounts of time for the phone, trips, allt aht he claims? Nobody else is aksing that question,a nd nobody has yet to answer.

IA.

Personally after reading the letter - and seeing the date - I see a man that is "settin up" stuff for his view to look "better".....

The fact remains that if the man wanted Linda back he wouldn't have "remarried" in less than 2 years and he wouldn't have been "dating" that quick....

JMO

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