The Rosie Lies Of 26th April 2007, 02:08 Pm Allowed On Cf, not all forums are created equal Options

[SoulEspresso]

I also found it hard to understand why anyone... even a Danny or Dannyclone... would use "tomatoe" as a "public name"

then it hit me..... ..... ...... ..... ..... ..... .....
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Spelling it "tomatoe" always reminds me of a certain ex-Vice President and another edible plant ...

This post has been edited by SoulEspresso: Apr 30 2007, 08:28 AM

[watchbird]

Spelling it "tomatoe" always reminds me of a certain ex-Vice President and another edible plant ...

Don't think I want to "go there".....

But I've heard that in the "good old days" when politicians visited rural farm areas to make their campaign speeches...... local farmers brought bushels of tomatoes that were too rotten to be sold so the locals could express their negative "appreciation" in a rather direct way. I guess those tomatoes didn't have any say in being used in that way. But it seems as though we now have at least one which hurls himself at any who disagrees with him....

Interesting switcheroo..... .....................

[Noahswife]

But it seems as though we now have at least one which hurls himself at any who disagrees with him....

Interesting switcheroo..... .....................

I noticed that WB.

However, I quickly discovered at CF that although this one does not mind being hurled he hates to be asked direct questions and refuses in his own words "to be grilled".

nw

This post has been edited by Noahswife: Apr 30 2007, 10:01 AM

[mozart]

What I said was that I found it hard to understand.... .... but I'm getting there....

I also found it hard to understand why anyone... even a Danny or Dannyclone... would use "tomatoe" as a "public name"..... ......


...... then it hit me..... ..... ...... .....
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[mozart]

The mods at CF, like the mods at CA are pro-Danny's camp... and have reached a point where they barely maintain a pretense of objectivity. If one is going to post there, they should know that those critical of DS et al are kept on a much shorter leash and given far less leeway than those who are DS supporters.

In His service,
Mr. J

yes you are correct. in fact i dont even like to go over there because of the excessive hostility. there is only one adventist they have as a mod for our forums over there and she is quesitonable. i emailed them about that last week and got a reply from a lady in "cusotmer concerns" who said: they may have other adventists (they don't know?) that might (they don't know?) be in other forums but yes there is only one adventist for our forum.
wonder when "Christians" became such good politicians? anyway, i have no doubt this one adventist is not only predjudice but very nominal and "progressive" (they like to call it) but i've seen her say she and her pastor husband don't believe in EGW but he can't admit that because of his job. i don't get ppl that go to a church they don't even believe in, especially if it's a pastor on the payroll.
now before one of you goes ballistic on me assuming i think EGW is = to the Bible or John the Baptist or something, i've never thought that. i've never called her a prophet. she asked ppl not to call her a prophet and i respect her enough not to do that. i'm sure she had very good reason for saying that. i consider her very good Bible counsel and i would say that whether i was an adventist or not. for those who pick her apart at the seams i say, if it doesn't bless you, don't read it. don't throw the baby out with the bath water. it tends to be a great loss when you do that.
so........... BACK TO THE TOPIC.

[shinejoy]

Don't think I want to "go there".....

But I've heard that in the "good old days" when politicians visited rural farm areas to make their campaign speeches...... local farmers brought bushels of tomatoes that were too rotten to be sold so the locals could express their negative "appreciation" in a rather direct way. I guess those tomatoes didn't have any say in being used in that way. But it seems as though we now have at least one which hurls himself at any who disagrees with him....

Interesting switcheroo..... .....................

Don't think I want to "go there".....

But I've heard that in the "good old days" when politicians visited rural farm areas to make their campaign speeches...... local farmers brought bushels of tomatoes that were too rotten to be sold so the locals could express their negative "appreciation" in a rather direct way. I guess those tomatoes didn't have any say in being used in that way. But it seems as though we now have at least one which hurls himself at any who disagrees with him....

Interesting switcheroo..... .....................

WOW interesting thought..

[calvin]

The mods at CF, like the mods at CA are pro-Danny's camp... and have reached a point where they barely maintain a pretense of objectivity. If one is going to post there, they should know that those critical of DS et al are kept on a much shorter leash and given far less leeway than those who are DS supporters.

In His service,
Mr. J

...and I suspect they would put BSDA in the pro-Linda camp. Hey whatever

[mozart]

I would put us in the "Fight for The Truth Camp". Thanks for letting us do that Boss.

...and I suspect they would put BSDA in the pro-Linda camp. Hey whatever

[Noahswife]

The mods at CF, like the mods at CA are pro-Danny's camp... and have reached a point where they barely maintain a pretense of objectivity. If one is going to post there, they should know that those critical of DS et al are kept on a much shorter leash and given far less leeway than those who are DS supporters.

In His service,
Mr. J

Mr. J,

I think another very important factor that we also need to take into consideration is that I have never once written a complaint to Clay, Di or Calvin here about another poster. I believe we are all adults and should be able to take as good as we give. I believe that as adults we should be able to discuss things and not throw out dynamite and run with no accountability for what was said. However, I get the impression that many supporters of DS that post here are constantly complaining.

I found myself at CF several times writing to the moderator when i began to see inconsistencies in how things were handled or posts edited. It was quickly my impression that like here, the screaming tomatoes and peaches etc were complaining and at CF they were being responded to. So I decided to do the same when I had time to. I typically found that my requests if documented were responded to and fairly handled.

So I think a major difference is that here at BSDA we know the admins and Calvin are not going to be bullied into giving in to demands by the DS apologists. That is not true there and I don't think that will change.

Off my soapbox now that i have said my 2 cents.

nw
C"i"

This post has been edited by Noahswife: Apr 30 2007, 11:29 AM

[daylily]

One of Danny's favorite stories is about how he, his family and cousins picked tomatoes as children. They would throw rotten tomatoes at each other :-)

[awesumtenor]

there is only one adventist they have as a mod for our forums over there and she is quesitonable.

She isn't even questionable; she is the wife of tall73 who is an SDA pastor who took Danny's side very early on and she tends to back her husband like Sapphira did Ananias...

There couldn't be a lesson in that, could there?

In His service,
Mr. J

[princessdi]

This is why I love you Gurl!!! Flesh and blood did not give this to you!!!

Mr. J,

I think another very important factor that we also need to take into consideration is that I have never once written a complaint to Clay, Di or Calvin here about another poster. I believe we are all adults and should be able to take as good as we give. I believe that as adults we should be able to discuss things and not throw out dynamite and run with no accountability for what was said. However, I get the impression that many supporters of DS that post here are constantly complaining.

I found myself at CF several times writing to the moderator when i began to see inconsistencies in how things were handled or posts edited. It was quickly my impression that like here, the screaming tomatoes and peaches etc were complaining and at CF they were being responded to. So I decided to do the same when I had time to. I typically found that my requests if documented were responded to and fairly handled.

So I think a major difference is that here at BSDA we know the admins and Calvin are not going to be bullied into giving in to demands by the DS apologists. That is not true there and I don't think that will change.

Off my soapbox now that i have said my 2 cents.

nw
C"i"

[mozart]

She isn't even questionable; she is the wife of tall73 who is an SDA pastor who took Danny's side very early on and she tends to back her husband like Sapphira did Ananias...

There couldn't be a lesson in that, could there?

In His service,
Mr. J

well, turns out, she (sophia7, tall73's wife) is the one that deleted TMs thread. i have had several conversations with her and her husband and if they were more "watered-down" they would drown. in my dealings with the mods over at CF, it appears that they only respond if you complain. in fact that is what they have told me. just today sophia7 told me they don't have time to read every thread so they can only respond if someone makes a complaint so that is what i needed to do. i wrote them back and said "the opponents of Rosie55 and tomatoe are not cry-babies that run to momma if someone gives back what they dish out. i told her we don't believe in those hit and run tactics. "
not meaning to sound self-righteous or judgemental, but, it's truly sad how many unconverted souls are in the churches and even getting paid!!
i was thinking about that this morning while thinking about our church wondering why there is no growth. i imagined myself preaching to the church and saying, "there are so many lost souls out there...........and there are many in here as well". let's get those in here right with God before we go trying to bring anybody else in. it's amazing to think how many people forget "God is watching".

This post has been edited by mozart: Apr 30 2007, 01:01 PM

[Clay]

well, turns out, she (sophia7, tall73's wife) is the one that deleted TMs thread. i have had several conversations with her and her husband and if they were more "watered-down" they would drown. in my dealings with the mods over at CF, it appears that they only respond if you complain. in fact that is what they have told me. just today sophia7 told me they don't have time to read every thread so they can only respond if someone makes a complaint so that is what i needed to do. i wrote them back and said "the opponents of Rosie55 and tomatoe are not cry-babies that run to momma if someone gives back what they dish out. i told her we don't believe in those hit and run tactics. "
not meaning to sound self-righteous or judgemental, but, it's truly sad how many unconverted souls are in the churches and even getting paid!!
i was thinking about that this morning while thinking about our church wondering why there is no growth. i imagined myself preaching to the church and saying, "there are so many lost souls out there...........and there are many in here as well". let's get those in here right with God before we go trying to bring anybody else in. it's amazing to think how many people forget "God is watching".

I rather like Sophia and Tall.... watered down, whatever does that mean? not everyone can be (or needs to be) a rabid sda.....

[SoulEspresso]

I rather like Sophia and Tall.... watered down, whatever does that mean? not everyone can be (or needs to be) a rabid sda.....

Well, for another example, Pickle and I are probably not close on a number of issues, but I appreciate him because I know he's committed to the truth, as I am (or am trying to be).

One thing that I don't like about save3abn is that, at least on some pages, it assumes you are a true conservative if you oppose the current administration of 3abn. I think anyone with a sense of right-and-wrong would look at the facts and go, "Hey. Let's have some change at the top here, shall we?"

I don't know Sophia and Tall, I have my hands full checking this forum. But I have friends that are arch-conservatives, I have friends that have dropped out and become Presbyterians, and my best friend, who used to cut up with me in Youth Sabbath School, is these days something of a ... Buddhist ... sort of ... kinda Muslim too ... Hindu Christian ... yeah.

We ought to be careful of ad hominem attacks. A person who is right about some stuff might be dead wrong about others.