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post May 13 2007, 07:37 PM
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QUOTE(runner4him @ May 5 2007, 01:05 PM) [snapback]194230[/snapback]

I agree with you, Noahswife! If even a Peon (talking about me) can read what is on the internet here and at save3abn then someone like DB who has a "competent board" (to quote you) and who knows other solid SDA friends/ministers/evangelists/officials of the church in high places should be able to ask his own questions while sifting through all the "stuff". It is not that difficult to come to an intelligent conclusion. I do not want to judge him or his motives but it does look too cozy for me. My donations stopped going to AF when I first heard of the merger with no pronouncement of cleaning house. We must not hide behind the cloak of apparent christianity and remain silent about real issues...that leaves me with a bad taste in my mouth. Back to standing up for truth....and principles...and rights of victims...and the pure unadulterated Gospel. There is always a lesson in everything....pray that we might not be puffed up and forget our total need of Him for all things.


Hey - I have an idea! I keep hearing of folks who have stopped their contributions to 3ABN and/or AF. Maybe we should be sending our donations to Barbara Kerr for her new cooking show!! wave.gif

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post Jun 2 2007, 11:27 PM
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awesome idea !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! i'm in. thanks snoopy thankyou.gif

QUOTE(Snoopy @ Jun 2 2007, 09:03 PM) [snapback]198031[/snapback]

Hey - I have an idea! I keep hearing of folks who have stopped their contributions to 3ABN and/or AF. Maybe we should be sending our donations to Barbara Kerr for her new cooking show!! wave.gif



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Instead we seem to be using sensationalism, emotionalism, moving lights and motivational speakers that are prepared to manipulate, by well chosen words, the minds of the listeners.
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Humor was not added to get that laugh of entertainment. Drama was not introduced behind the sacred desk to glue your attention.

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post Jun 3 2007, 02:39 AM
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QUOTE(mozart @ Jun 2 2007, 11:27 PM) [snapback]198051[/snapback]

awesome idea !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! i'm in. thanks snoopy thankyou.gif


OK. Where do we send money to Linda and to Barbara?

Linda needs money for her ministry also and has never asked for a dime.

Nothing like the 3ABN Begathons!

It would please me to no end to see the donations start pouring in for honestly accountable ministries such as Polly's Place, Linda's Ministry, Barbara and Linda's cooking shows.

I believe strongly that we should also support the legal fund for Joy and Pickle.

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But such a character is not the result of accident; it is not due to special favors or endowments of Providence. A noble character is the result of self-discipline, of the subjection of the lower to the higher nature--the surrender of self for the service of love to God and man. {Ed 57.4}
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QUOTE(Fran @ Jun 3 2007, 03:39 AM) [snapback]198059[/snapback]

OK. Where do we send money to Linda and to Barbara?

Linda needs money for her ministry also and has never asked for a dime.

Nothing like the 3ABN Begathons!

It would please me to no end to see the donations start pouring in for honestly accountable ministries such as Polly's Place, Linda's Ministry, Barbara and Linda's cooking shows.

I believe strongly that we should also support the legal fund for Joy and Pickle.

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The legal defense fund is probably the most urgent right now, considering that Garwin McNeilus can squander a whole lot more money on lawyers than Bob Pickle or Gailon Joy, even if there is no valid case. (It's a common technique to stall until the opposition runs out of money.) Whether you can contribute $5.00 or $5,000.00, every little bit helps.
Here's how to contribute: http://www.pickle-publishing.com/defensefund.htm

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QUOTE(inga @ Jun 3 2007, 10:29 AM) [snapback]198079[/snapback]

The legal defense fund is probably the most urgent right now, considering that Gailon Joy can squander a whole lot more money on lawyers than Bob Pickle or Gailon Joy, even if there is no valid case. (It's a common technique to stall until the opposition runs out of money.) Whether you can contribute $5.00 or $5,000.00, every little bit helps.
Here's how to contribute: http://www.pickle-publishing.com/defensefund.htm



Re: " . . . considering that Gailon Joy can squander a whole lot more money on lawyers. . ."

I do not think you meant to say Gailon Joy. Perhaps you meant Garwin McNeilus?




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Donate for Bob Pickle and Gailon Joy's Defense Fund!

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QUOTE(Pickle @ May 4 2007, 04:27 PM) [snapback]194137[/snapback]

June 2007 issue of 3ABN World. The cover story is all about the merger, and the cover says that the magazine is "Published Monthly by 3ABN/Amazing Facts."

I still haven't heard Doug come out and state how he feels about Danny covering up his brother's child molestation allegations, or Danny's divorcing Linda when he didn't know whether or not she had committed fornication. Anyone know where Doug stands on these questions?

Notice how the ASI president who also sits on the ASI Mission, Inc. board, Debbie Young, has an article in the magazine too. Does that suggest that the ASI Missions, Inc. board will indeed be the new constituency?

The way this issue is put together you'd think Doug and Debbie are 100% behind Danny. Is that reality or is this just an illusion created by Danny?

Pickle, I sure HOPE not! Db is a very intelligent person, one would think he knows it all! Db ought to know is being used by ds to cy(h)a for him to continue his abuse wthin 3abn, having db upfront. It is like spreading jam on top of what you and I have stepped into a few times while walking across a lawn, for many gullible SDA's supporters to swallow, but it is the same stuff!
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QUOTE(Observer @ Jun 3 2007, 11:59 AM) [snapback]198084[/snapback]

Re: " . . . considering that Gailon Joy can squander a whole lot more money on lawyers. . ."

I do not think you meant to say Gailon Joy. Perhaps you meant Garwin McNeilus?
Yes, I meant Garwin McNeilus, and I've corrected the entry.

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QUOTE(inga @ Jun 3 2007, 10:29 AM) [snapback]198079[/snapback]

The legal defense fund is probably the most urgent right now, considering that Garwin McNeilus can squander a whole lot more money on lawyers than Bob Pickle or Gailon Joy, even if there is no valid case. (It's a common technique to stall until the opposition runs out of money.) Whether you can contribute $5.00 or $5,000.00, every little bit helps.
Here's how to contribute: http://www.pickle-publishing.com/defensefund.htm


I too support funds to help Gailon and Pickle for lawyers to defend themselves being today's Davids against the Goliath in 3ABN. Many see the Devil attacking 3ABN through Gailon and Pickle, but those who believe this are stoning the messenger for the message! Satan is attacking 3ABN, but it is from within, through Danny that 3ABN is being attack! Gailon is just out to save 3ABN! For sure, the Lord is liken to a surgeon here having Gailon and Pickle in His hands. They are the Lord's sharp edge scalpels cutting away to remove the cancer growth within 3ABN to SAVE 3ABN!
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wonder what the courts, attorneys, etc. would do if only dirt poor people spoke out. ya think that might put a a little bit of a wrench in the system?
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QUOTE(mikell @ Jun 3 2007, 01:44 PM) [snapback]198123[/snapback]

I too support funds to help Gailon and Pickle for lawyers to defend themselves being today's Davids against the Goliath in 3ABN. Many see the Devil attacking 3ABN through Gailon and Pickle, but those who believe this are stoning the messenger for the message! Satan is attacking 3ABN, but it is from within, through Danny that 3ABN is being attack! Gailon is just out to save 3ABN! For sure, the Lord is liken to a surgeon here having Gailon and Pickle in His hands. They are the Lord's sharp edge scalpels cutting away to remove the cancer growth within 3ABN to SAVE 3ABN!
save3abn.com
rescue3abn.blog.com



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Instead we seem to be using sensationalism, emotionalism, moving lights and motivational speakers that are prepared to manipulate, by well chosen words, the minds of the listeners.
It used to be, messages that were given by our pioneers were wrenched from the depths of the heart by the Holy Spirit.
Humor was not added to get that laugh of entertainment. Drama was not introduced behind the sacred desk to glue your attention.

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QUOTE(Fran @ Jun 3 2007, 02:39 AM) [snapback]198059[/snapback]

OK. Where do we send money to Linda and to Barbara?

Linda needs money for her ministry also and has never asked for a dime.

Nothing like the 3ABN Begathons!

It would please me to no end to see the donations start pouring in for honestly accountable ministries such as Polly's Place, Linda's Ministry, Barbara and Linda's cooking shows.

I believe strongly that we should also support the legal fund for Joy and Pickle.

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Not sure if you meant this tongue-in-cheek or not. But in case you where serious, we won't be having a Begathons on BSDA for any of these ministries. I have specific rules against solicitation, regardless of the cause. However, this rule is waved for active members like Pickle.
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QUOTE(calvin @ Jun 3 2007, 06:18 PM) [snapback]198149[/snapback]

Not sure if you meant this tongue-in-cheek or not. But in case you where serious, we won't be having a Begathons on BSDA for any of these ministries. I have specific rules against solicitation, regardless of the cause. However, this rule is waved for active members like Pickle.


What I meant was that Linda "Not Begging" is far from the "3ABN begathons."

It was my desire that true accountable ministries would receive some of the money that was being given to 3ABN previously.

I was sincere about donations for legal cost for Joy, Pickle & any other BSDA Members that may later be brought into a lawsuit.

Thanks for bending for Pickle.


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Isn't it a moot point now since NAD removed Danny Shelton from his position there for getting the divorce without sufficient evidence of adultery?
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Isn't it a moot point now since NAD removed Danny Shelton from his position there for getting the divorce without sufficient evidence of adultery?

What is your evidence that this has happened. How did NAD suddenly get the authority to remove Danny from his position when they have claimed all along that they could do nothing since he was not a conference employee? dunno.gif
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