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> Just Curious, Where are you at on the 3abn thingy…?
Assuming you have an opinion on the ongoing 3ABN saga, what is your position on the following?
The allegation about 3ABN that most concerns me is:
The alleged questionable divorce/remarriage of President Danny Shelton. [ 10 ] ** [21.28%]
The disparaging public and private comments made by President Danny Shelton and 3ABN representatives about his ex-wife Linda Shelton. [ 7 ] ** [14.89%]
The alleged questionable use of donor funds on luxuries such as the 3ABN jet(s). [ 1 ] ** [2.13%]
The alleged enrichment of Danny Shelton through accounting “slight of hands” such as the book publishing arrangement for the 10 commandment events. [ 3 ] ** [6.38%]
The alleged questionable personal financial conduct of President Danny Shelton in taking improper tax deductions. [ 0 ] ** [0.00%]
The alleged sexual predatory practices of a leader of 3ABN. [ 5 ] ** [10.64%]
The alleged cover up by President Danny Shelton and/or the 3ABN Board of Directors of the alleged sexual predatory issues above. [ 19 ] ** [40.43%]
3ABN programming is becoming increasingly Pentecostal in nature. [ 1 ] ** [2.13%]
3ABN programming is becoming increasingly influenced by “Grace” driven theology. [ 0 ] ** [0.00%]
3ABN programming is becoming increasingly influenced by “Works” driven theology. [ 1 ] ** [2.13%]
Assuming that being an “activist” in this matter includes sharing and discussing the 3ABN situation both publicly and privately, I feel that it is appropriate morally and biblically for me to be an activist in my concerns regarding any of the above allegations because:
I am concerned and actively involved strictly because 3ABN is widely understood to represent my church. [ 28 ] ** [59.57%]
I would be active in my concern regardless of which denomination, if any, 3ABN was associated with. [ 9 ] ** [19.15%]
I do not consider myself an activist in the 3ABN matter and merely read the information/allegations available to be informed. [ 10 ] ** [21.28%]
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post Aug 23 2007, 10:08 AM
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post Aug 23 2007, 11:27 AM
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I have a problem with stating the first part with one answer. I would have prefered to be able to give three important issues.


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post Aug 23 2007, 12:03 PM
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QUOTE(Observer @ Aug 23 2007, 12:27 PM) *
I have a problem with stating the first part with one answer. I would have prefered to be able to give three important issues.


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post Aug 23 2007, 12:24 PM
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YB, I am like Pastor Greg, I need more than one choice........take the first 7 on the first question and on the second, even though I am not an activist, I am really concerned that they are understood to represent the SDA hurch, especially in light of the recent admission of them not considering themselves as asscociated with any denom by support, association, or doctrine.


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post Aug 23 2007, 12:27 PM
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QUOTE(princessdi @ Aug 23 2007, 01:24 PM) *
YB, I am like Pastor Greg, I need more than one choice........take the first 7 on the first question and on the second, even though I am not an activist, I am really concerned that they are understood to represent the SDA hurch, especially in light of the recent admission of them not considering themselves as asscociated with any denom by support, association, or doctrine.


Understood Di. I was really attempting to zero in on the hottest area of concern. I realize that many would like the choice of "all of the above" or some other combination. Please "bear" with me if I promise to address this in the next poll currently under construction.

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Understood YB! I am really just glad that in your truly bear fashion you put things into such a concise form, makes the issues easy to see and understand.


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Understood Di. I was really attempting to zero in on the hottest area of concern. I realize that many would like the choice of "all of the above" or some other combination. Please "bear" with me if I promise to address this in the next poll currently under construction.

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QUOTE(Observer @ Aug 23 2007, 07:27 PM) *
I have a problem with stating the first part with one answer. I would have prefered to be able to give three important issues.


I subscribe to Gregory's comment, also voiced by others.


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QUOTE(Johann @ Aug 23 2007, 02:32 PM) *
I subscribe to Gregory's comment, also voiced by others.

I simply don't like polls. I think open ended questions are much better. I don't like someone else putting words in my mouth... even when I get to choose from a variety of word combinations. Especially in something as complex as this, a poll simply "doesn't cut it"... IMO....



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I also would like "all of the above" but am glad that you pinpointed each issue--the poll questions themselves would make a good statement!




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QUOTE(watchbird @ Aug 23 2007, 02:39 PM) *
I simply don't like polls. I think open ended questions are much better. I don't like someone else putting words in my mouth... even when I get to choose from a variety of word combinations. Especially in something as complex as this, a poll simply "doesn't cut it"... IMO....
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Then we should take a poll to see if your opinion should be considered in future polls. As a watchbird, I would think that poles provide a nice vantage point. lol.gif
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QUOTE(Whtz Happenin @ Aug 23 2007, 03:25 PM) *
Then we should take a poll to see if your opinion should be considered in future polls. As a watchbird, I would think that poles provide a nice vantage point. lol.gif

Ah... but a pole is not a poll. A pole gives one a broad unobstructed view of the landscape... a poll... is.... well.... I've already given my opinion on that.... giggle.gif .... ... but... well... sorta like playing "jackstraws".... and not only is your range of vision restricted to the choices... there may be a bunch of other choices that aren't even there to choose.....

But y'all go ahead and have yur fun... I'll just peek once in a while... though obviously not at the results, since I won't be voting.

I hope that's ok....

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Whether or not you all may feel strongly about multiple issues, if I am understanding correctly, the point of the poll was to choose that which you were most passionate about and then qualify that one choice a bit farther. This builds a simple and clear unscientific but heavily relevant statistic, IMO.

I greatly appreciate the careful thought and construction of this poll and look forward to watching the results develop.

Thanks, bear

Oh, and BTW, to those who would like to see a poll developed a bit differently, push the button and do so! I'll vote in yours as well.

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QUOTE(YogusBearus @ Aug 23 2007, 11:08 AM) *
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Bear;

Please, mark my response, "All of the above" for part one.


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But such a character is not the result of accident; it is not due to special favors or endowments of Providence. A noble character is the result of self-discipline, of the subjection of the lower to the higher nature--the surrender of self for the service of love to God and man. {Ed 57.4}
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Oh my goodness.... huh.gif

Kudos to the 20, so far, with the courage to commit to a single choice and go with the flow of the poll.

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QUOTE(Fran @ Aug 23 2007, 02:42 PM) *
Bear;

Please, mark my response, "All of the above" for part one.


Will do Fran. I now have you down for believing that 3ABN programming is heavy on Grace, Works, and Pentecostalism. Thanks for your participation.

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