Propose Some "wisdom Of Solomon" Even At This Late Date? Options

[CPAATTY]

There are indications that an element will "flame out" in this situation! We are also reminded of Jim Jones and Guayna(sp).

[PeacefulBe]

There are indications that an element will "flame out" in this situation! We are also reminded of Jim Jones and Guayna(sp).

I've always figured that tensions between Danny, Gailon and Bob would come to fisticuffs, eventually...

[YogusBearus]

I've always figured that tensions between Danny, Gailon and Bob would come to fisticuffs, eventually...

LOL PB. Do you really think that? I guess it could certainly cut down on legal expenses.

I'll never forget the first week we visited our new church home in rural Minnesota. We arrived pretty late and noticed two older guys slugging it out on the front lawn of the church. Turns out that they were both Elders and had stepped outside to settle things between Sabbath School and Church. Needless to say, we tried to arrive early thereafter as we didn't want to miss out on any of the special programs. Alas, it turned out to be a once in a lifetime event.

-bear

[watchbird]

There are indications that an element will "flame out" in this situation! We are also reminded of Jim Jones and Guayna(sp).

It has been said before.

[Johann]

I've always figured that tensions between Danny, Gailon and Bob would come to fisticuffs, eventually...

Who is endowed with a prophetic gift?

[PeacefulBe]

LOL PB. Do you really think that? I guess it could certainly cut down on legal expenses.

Sigh... well I suppose that I've misunderstood CPAATTY yet again. Is it possible that by "flame out" he was referring to some of the the key figures in this saga resorting to dressing in women's clothing and make-up, or perhaps what happens when a Stealth bomber stalls mid-flight? Note to self, give up trying to understand what is cryptically being referred to in this thread.

I'll never forget the first week we visited our new church home in rural Minnesota. We arrived pretty late and noticed two older guys slugging it out on the front lawn of the church. Turns out that they were both Elders and had stepped outside to settle things between Sabbath School and Church. Needless to say, we tried to arrive early thereafter as we didn't want to miss out on any of the special programs. Alas, it turned out to be a once in a lifetime event.

-bear

What a sight for a Sabbath morning! That was an odd interpretation of the counsel in Matthew 18, I must say, eh?

[Fran]

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-bear

Bear;
2 Days are left! We all need a pair around here for sure. It gets really deep!

[Fran]

LOL PB. Do you really think that? I guess it could certainly cut down on legal expenses.

I'll never forget the first week we visited our new church home in rural Minnesota. We arrived pretty late and noticed two older guys slugging it out on the front lawn of the church. Turns out that they were both Elders and had stepped outside to settle things between Sabbath School and Church. Needless to say, we tried to arrive early thereafter as we didn't want to miss out on any of the special programs. Alas, it turned out to be a once in a lifetime event.

-bear

Aw......Did it work?

[Fran]

There are indications that an element will "flame out" in this situation! We are also reminded of Jim Jones and Guayna(sp).

Wotcha mean here now? Speak in broken simple English so us poor uneducated folk don't have to read between the lines. Are you saying you are "flaming out"?

Surely you do not believe that someone will bite the "Business poison pill?" Or is that what you meant.

Oh I get it, are you talking about a fire like we Adventists have experienced in our far past with a publishing printing press?

I give! Please Explain. I love a good story as well as others.

[CPAATTY]

Wotcha mean here now? Speak in broken simple English so us poor uneducated folk don't have to read between the lines. Are you saying you are "flaming out"?

Surely you do not believe that someone will bite the "Business poison pill?" Or is that what you meant.

Oh I get it, are you talking about a fire like we Adventists have experienced in our far past with a publishing printing press?

I give! Please Explain. I love a good story as well as others.

"The more people looking into 3ABN, the better! I told the Senator that I did NOT want 3ABN shut down, but I did want to see future transparent accountability. If this fails, IMO, I believe we should start a very serious grassroots campaigns to stop 3ABN from sucking the Adventist Members dry! Just my 2 cents worth."

Your "well-stated" comments are well-taken in view of the advancement of the "regularly organized church"; however, your off-the-wall comments seem to smack on a split personnality.

Even though I have never been a direct supporter of any independent broadcast ministry, my main interest is moral and financial accountability FBO "alleged shareholders in the pew" in a situation whereby "organization" allowed its membership to become an alleged 60% quasi-investor class with no attached voting rights which should have never happened in such a disorganized manner.

Since wisdom, operating manuals, or by-laws did not appear to attract much interest, let me humbly suggest you "cut to the chase" and contact th GC to institute a "class-type" action on behalf of its supporting membership not happy with their alleged expected level of moral or financial accountability of independent ministries who knowingly accept 60% of their financial support through a "conduit mode."

This post has been edited by CPAATTY: Nov 9 2007, 05:13 AM

[Johann]

Is it a reasonable conclusion, CPAATTY, that you are not actively disinterested in this particular case?

[CPAATTY]

Is it a reasonable conclusion, CPAATTY, that you are not actively disinterested in this particular case?

Suffice it to say that I am not interested one iota in either of the "two that have been insulated to some extent from the independent minisitry" as you appear to be. Further suffice it to say, I question some of your apparent interest(period)! I am a member of the regularly organized Seventh-Day Adventist Church with headquarters in the US who really does not appreciate how my fellow church members have been allegedly allowed to be used for support of an organization in which they have no alleged rights of control in certain moral or financial matters where they may have issues!!!!!!!

Feel free to place me on IGNORE from henceforward!!!!!!!!!!!

[Fran]

"The more people looking into 3ABN, the better! I told the Senator that I did NOT want 3ABN shut down, but I did want to see future transparent accountability. If this fails, IMO, I believe we should start a very serious grassroots campaigns to stop 3ABN from sucking the Adventist Members dry! Just my 2 cents worth."

Your "well-stated" comments are well-taken in view of the advancement of the "regularly organized church"; however, your off-the-wall comments seem to smack on a split personnality.

Even though I have never been a direct supporter of any independent broadcast ministry, my main interest is moral and financial accountability FBO "alleged shareholders in the pew" in a situation whereby "organization" allowed its membership to become an alleged 60% quasi-investor class with no attached voting rights which should have never happened in such a disorganized manner.

Since wisdom, operating manuals, or by-laws did not appear to attract much interest, let me humbly suggest you "cut to the chase" and contact th GC to institute a "class-type" action on behalf of its supporting membership not happy with their alleged expected level of moral or financial accountability of independent ministries who knowingly accept 60% of their financial support through a "conduit mode."

"smack on a split personality."

Thank you so much. This must be the reason I can't tell if I am coming or going!

Do you take patients? You seem to understand the disorder from personal experience.

I definitely don't think in a box. Many times I post to get responses from people like you. However, I do not think in a box for sure. Of coarse you already knew that, right.

Good talking to you again. Until next time.......!


PS: (You really should use a spell checker. It has become your "trademark"; especialy when it is always the same words.)

[Fran]

Is it a reasonable conclusion, CPAATTY, that you are not actively disinterested in this particular case?

Johann;

Keep reading. Things are beginning to get interesting. CPAATTY is about to break loose. He has been known to be very funny. It should be humorously eventful. OR... full of insults. What ever, take it with a grain of salt, oops, sugar.

[CPAATTY]

Suffice it to say that I am not interested one iota in either of the "two that have been insulated to some extent from the independent minisitry" as you appear to be. Further suffice it to say, I question some of your apparent interest(period)! I am a member of the regularly organized Seventh-Day Adventist Church with headquarters in the US who really does not appreciate how my fellow church members have been allegedly allowed to be used for support of an organization in which they have no alleged rights of control in certain moral or financial matters where they may have issues!!!!!!!

Feel free to place me on IGNORE from henceforward!!!!!!!!!!!

Does anyone have any evidence on how any independent TV ministry was able to tap into the PRINCIPAL CONDUIT of the regularly organized church at the GENERAL CONFERENCE, UNION CONFERENCE, LOCAL CONFERENCE, OR LOCAL CHURCH levels without the SHAREHOLDERS IN THE PEW not being aware of the possibly necessary controls on MATTERS OF PRINCIPLE? Does anyone have any evidence of how this conduit was eventually cut which may have been the potential excuse or reasons for any formal actions thought to be necessary by some? I readily understand that all humankind finds themselves in need of "loaves and fishes" as a necessary "staff of life!"

There appears to be little interest in discussion of operating manuals and\or by-laws to breed confidence in independent ministries ragarding morals and financial matters which are vital assurances, as much as possible, to "shareholders in the pew" for their uninterrupted support going forward. Most of the interest always seems to lie totally within the "frailities of human acts which some view as "spicey" rather than a correct understanding of the avoidance of those "spicey" situations with their ultimate consequencs.

Do you think we would be engaged in the Mid-East conflict, as some see it, had Abraham avoided the very appearance of evil with the admonition that the parent's sins will be visited to the third and fourth generations even in spite of the knowledge that certain of these parents were styled as "father of the faithful?"

We see it stranger than fiction that some with a vested interest in your PRINCIPAL may have a lesser regard for your PRINCIPLE. Be careful or these same will go after your PRINCIPAL when your expressed views of PRINCIPLE may conflict with their views!



This post has been edited by CPAATTY: Nov 17 2007, 08:58 AM