3abn Adds New Board Member, Union President? Options

[Pickle]

According to an FCC Ownership Report dated 10/8/2007, Max Trevino is a 3ABN Board member.

What does Max Trevino think of the various issues at 3ABN? What does he think of the lawsuit?

[justice4jesus]

According to an FCC Ownership Report dated 10/8/2007, Max Trevino is a 3ABN Board member.

What does Max Trevino think of the various issues at 3ABN? What does he think of the lawsuit?

In order to get in, I think he pretty much has to think whatever Danny tells him to think. Seems to be the MO at 3ABN.

[Fran]

In order to get in, I think he pretty much has to think whatever Danny tells him to think. Seems to be the MO at 3ABN.

Max Trevino is a good man. I believe Jim Gilley may have been the one to introduce him to the board. He was the Union Treasurer before he became President. He was President when the Union and Conference switched their software to Shelby. He went through the conversion and all that good stuff. I am praying 3ABN will start using it for 3ABN.

I am praying this will be a good thing. Max is a good man. I would not feel, at this time, that he would fall for Danny Shelton's claims, However, I have been wrong before! I just choose to give him a chance to help 3ABN recover their lack of adequate software for accountability. He is a very smart man.

[Seraphim7]

Max Trevino is the only person who can actually answer any questions about what he thinks of the drama at 3abn.

We do have an "Interview" sub-forum. Someone can always ask him if he would like to answer some questions of concern. All he can say is yes or no to the interview request.

[PrincessDrRe]

This news hurts me. I know Max Trevino; and I don't think he would be involved in "mess"....

Dang.

[jakann]

According to an FCC Ownership Report dated 10/8/2007, Max Trevino is a 3ABN Board member.

What does Max Trevino think of the various issues at 3ABN? What does he think of the lawsuit?

Well, Max Trevino was the one who hired a private investigator to find out what really was going to with his president (Marvin Anderson) of Southwestern Adventist University and his purported being a victim of a robbery etc. End result: Anderson was fired.
Think we'll see Trevino do the same thing at 3ABN?

This post has been edited by jakann: Jan 5 2008, 11:39 PM

[Fran]

Well, Max Trevino was the one who hired a private investigator to find out what really was going to with his president (Marvin Anderson) of Southwestern Adventist University and his purported being a victim of a robbery etc. End result: Anderson was fired.
Think we'll see Trevino do the same thing at 3ABN?

I believe he will get the facts before he does anything.

[appletree]

This news hurts me. I know Max Trevino; and I don't think he would be involved in "mess"....

Dang.

Then that should give you an excellent clue that the picture that Joy and Pickle have been painting is far from accurate. Think about it. Jim Gilley has an excellent reputation as does Doug B and the board members. Why would they all involve themselves in a "mess"? Think it over.

[appletree]

In order to get in, I think he pretty much has to think whatever Danny tells him to think. Seems to be the MO at 3ABN.

Seriously,

Don't you think it goes against logic that Danny Shelton tells successful, powerful businessmen such as Ellsworth McKee, Garwin Mcneilus, Stan Smith, Larry Romrail, Jim Gilley and how many others what to think? Really, that is ridiculous and your lists just keep growing. Doug B was a great guy until he wanted to merge with 3abn then you all were questioning him and his organization. Jim G was well liked and above board until he agreed to take the presidency. Garwin M has been one of the most well respected men in the SDA organization and Global mission field until all here realized he was continueing to support 3abn through all the controversy started by 3 people. Larry R's doctrinal beliefs were questioned because he became a board member. Dr. Walt who has been loved and respected by leaders of the church and people everywhere suddently became a liar and cover up king overnight. C'mon people...think...all these people being controlled by Danny Shelton is absoutely ludicrous and down deep you all know it.

[Panama_Pete]

Seriously,

Don't you think it goes against logic that Danny Shelton tells successful, powerful businessmen such as Ellsworth McKee, Garwin Mcneilus, Stan Smith, Larry Romrail, Jim Gilley and how many others what to think? Really, that is ridiculous and your lists just keep growing. Doug B was a great guy until he wanted to merge with 3abn then you all were questioning him and his organization. Jim G was well liked and above board until he agreed to take the presidency. Garwin M has been one of the most well respected men in the SDA organization and Global mission field until all here realized he was continueing to support 3abn through all the controversy started by 3 people. Larry R's doctrinal beliefs were questioned because he became a board member. Dr. Walt who has been loved and respected by leaders of the church and people everywhere suddently became a liar and cover up king overnight. C'mon people...think...all these people being controlled by Danny Shelton is absoutely ludicrous and down deep you all know it.

Seriously,

Oral Roberts University had an influential board of regents. And yet, here's where Oral Roberts University is at -- a major house cleaning.

According to your logic, Appletree, an Oral Roberts reform in leadership cannot be happening, and yet it is. How could that be, if we subscribe to your unflawed logic? Your listing of names impresses me as much as last year's telephone book.


http://chronicle.com/blogs/facevalue/index.php?id=1254

December 20, 2007
Oral Roberts U. Donor Proposes 'Power Sharing'
Mart Green, the Oral Roberts University donor who is withholding a $62-million gift until the university reforms its leadership, is asking officials to create a shared-governance model that includes faculty and staff members in decision-making.

This post has been edited by Panama_Pete: Jan 6 2008, 02:29 AM

[appletree]

Seriously,

Oral Roberts University had an influential board of regents. And yet, here's where Oral Roberts University is at -- a major house cleaning.

According to your logic, Appletree, an Oral Roberts reform in leadership cannot be happening, and yet it is. How could that be, if we subscribe to your unflawed logic? Your listing of names impresses me as much as last year's telephone book.
http://chronicle.com/blogs/facevalue/index.php?id=1254

That's good since my objective was in no way to impress you or anyone else. My point is that you are giving these intelligent christian men no credit whatsoever for their ability to see wrong, to make their own decisions (not Danny's) and by accusing them of those very actions, cover ups and whatnot, you judge their christian and moral ethics. This is wrong no matter how you look at it. You are setting yourself up as judge and jury to these men's motives and actions when you know nothing about them. Even if you knew them all personally, it would still be wrong to judge them in this way and to tear down their characters with no proof to back it up.

[Panama_Pete]

That's good since my objective was in no way to impress you or anyone else. My point is that you are giving these intelligent christian men no credit whatsoever for their ability to see wrong, to make their own decisions (not Danny's) and by accusing them of those very actions, cover ups and whatnot, you judge their christian and moral ethics. This is wrong no matter how you look at it. You are setting yourself up as judge and jury to these men's motives and actions when you know nothing about them. Even if you knew them all personally, it would still be wrong to judge them in this way and to tear down their characters with no proof to back it up.

I know the many cardinals in Rome may represent the pope, but their presence doesn't make the pope infallible. It's impressive to see the procession at Saint Peter's on Easter Sunday, but seeing large numbers of intelligent, Christian businessmen in the cathedral doesn't sway me.


This post has been edited by Panama_Pete: Jan 6 2008, 03:49 AM

[Observer]

According to an FCC Ownership Report dated 10/8/2007, Max Trevino is a 3ABN Board member.

What does Max Trevino think of the various issues at 3ABN? What does he think of the lawsuit?

FYI: Max Trevino is the President of the Southwestern Union Conference. This Conference covers AK, LA part of New Mexico, OK and Texas. His office is located in Burleson, Texas.

[awesumtenor]

C'mon people...think...all these people being controlled by Danny Shelton is absoutely ludicrous and down deep you all know it.

Then why are you here? You remind me of the so-called atheists who spend hours and hours in internet forae arguing against a God they claim belief in is ludicrous... you don't see people who don't truly don't believe in Santa Claus or the Easter Bunny or leprechauns arguing vehemently and at length against them...because when we know something is truly ludicrous it's not even a consideration to argue against it. Like them you fail to realize, if you truly believed what you say here, you wouldn't be here working so hard to convince others... and you fail to realize your feeling the need to fight against what you are calling ludicrous is a strong argument that it's not at all ludicrous... despite the increasing volume and level of rancor in your responses.

Calling yourself defending DS and 3ABN, you are actually the one most responsible for giving the allegations legs... because one need not send out the spin minions to address that which is truly 'ludicrous'.

In His service,
Mr. J

[PrincessDrRe]

Well, Max Trevino was the one who hired a private investigator to find out what really was going to with his president (Marvin Anderson) of Southwestern Adventist University and his purported being a victim of a robbery etc. End result: Anderson was fired.
Think we'll see Trevino do the same thing at 3ABN?

Anderson was not fired. Anderson stepped down himself. Trevino did hire a private investigator; but found out nothing different from what news reporters had already reported (which turned out to be true - he was robbed; police report exists-no charges of filing a false police report made). SWAU alumni over here; Class of '00. Friend of Anderson's; knows Trevino (in passing) and knows the whole story. BTW: do you know the school is now running in debt since he left. Independent auditors went over the SWAU books twice (one hired by Anderson; one hired by Union/School) and found no "wrongdoing/mistakes" in books....

Then that should give you an excellent clue that the picture that Joy and Pickle have been painting is far from accurate. Think about it. Jim Gilley has an excellent reputation as does Doug B and the board members. Why would they all involve themselves in a "mess"? Think it over.

Just because I know Trevino; does not mean that he couldn't get "sucked into mess" just like many other well known folks. I know him. I know his character - but I also know Danny Shelton is a strong manipulator. I know this from watchin' part of his commentary on Campus at Andrews University (I could only stomach a few minutes at someone's home then turned the channel). I also know that folks ain't falling for the marlarky as much as they did in the past from the empty seats in PMC when he did his "sideshow" up here at Andrews.

I hope Trevino digs deep and finds the root cause of the mess. If Trevino finds out the mess he will out the mess.