An Unauthorized History of 3ABN, Chapter 5 (thread was closed then reopened) Options

[sister]

Our previously scheduled programming, Part 4 of “ In the midst of the Garden”, is interrupted for the following special presentation:

“History always repeats itself or there is nothing new under the sun...”

A man in his twenties, casually dressed, sits in a chair in a waiting room. He yawns, a sure sign that sleep is attempting to be his companion as he continues his lonely vigil. Impatiently, he stares at his watch again. Shaking his wrist, he holds the time piece up to his ear. Like the constant drip of a Chinese water torture, he hears the seconds steadily ticking away, indicating that is has really only been 3 minutes since the last time he checked. Thumbing through a magazine, his brow wrinkles in agitation, as a thought plays over and over again in his mind, “Why did he so often draw the proverbial short straw and have the misfortune of sharing the hotel room with this particular cousin? ” Over the years he has been included, along with others, in a number of trips, traveling with his cousins. And in every city or town they frequented, the story remained the same...” Looking at his watch again, he discards the magazine he was browsing through. Nothing could grasp his attention, he there for what seemed like an eternity and waits. Feeling tired, soon his body began to slump in the uncomfortable hotel lobby chair.

At the sound of a familiar man’s voice and a woman’s high pitched laughter, he looks up. Standing before him is his cousin, pressing a few crumpled bills into a woman’s hand. Giving her a casual slap on her bottom and grinning as she heads out the door. Finally the evenings “cavorting ” was over. As he follows his cousin into the hotel room they are sharing, the rumpled sheets and the lingering scent of perfume give testimony of what had so recently transpired.

Sitting down on the edge of the bed, he hears the sound of water running in the bathroom and a voice lifted in song. Slowly unbuttoning his shirt and laying it on the bed, he shakes his head in unbelief, “How could his cousin continue availing himself of prostitutes services, when Kay and the girls were faithfully waiting at home?”

Mary Kay Kerleis-Shelton had two daughters from a previous marriage to a Mr. Leon Hammers. The first wife of Danny Shelton and the mother of Melody, she was known to everyone as “Kay”. With the help of the elder of her two daughters, she was planning to escape from this controlling and abusive second marriage. With no barriers Biblically for divorce, it was finally time to end the nightmare she was reliving day after day. Was Kay actually aware that Danny was “coming on” to one of her daughters? I do not know the answer. Perhaps there are others that can speak for Kay. To my knowledge, no announcement was made, for fear of Danny’s reaction.

The accident report stated that the stop sign was down at the intersection, and neither vehicle would have seen the other coming due to the high brush. Kay Shelton was broad-sided by a vehicle driven by a boy who was intoxicated. She was killed instantly. Melody was thrown through the windshield, out of the van and into a ditch. She sustained abrasions, lacerations, and a compound fracture in her right arm. This accident occurred less than two weeks after Kay and her eldest daughter began planning Kay’s escape from the controlling and abusive marriage that held her prisoner in her own home.

As Historians are fond of saying, “There is one thing certain about history, it always repeats itself.” And as is written in the book of Ecclesiastes, “Vanity, vanity, all is vanity...there is nothing new under the sun.” The names may change, but the story remains the same. Why does a man, with a wife waiting for him at home, frequent prostitutes? And why does a self-professed Christian pay for sex and seek out illicit affairs with the wives of friends and his employees in a Christian ministry, supposedly dedicated to “Mending Broken People”? Is his the face that best represents the Seven-day Adventist Church to the world? How do you want to see your church represented? By a man who has “written” a book about the 10 Commandments and continues to proscribe to the false theology that he can be saved in his sins, not from them? As long as sin continues, and the sinner shows no interest in discontinuing his behavior...well answer these questions for yourself. Is there any doubt in your mind as to why a “gag order” was placed upon Linda?

Stay tuned as the truth behind the scenes at 3ABN is further revealed...

[Zephyr]

Stations aren't selected because of their morals, they are selected because of their popularity. If this information is brought to light, I predict that he will make even more money and become more popular than ever before.

First sentence is true with a little correction: stations are not chosen because of the morals of their principals or stars, but because of popularity and programming that meet needs. of viewers.

The 2nd sentence 8is wishful thinking. Danny is not going to get rich of this bad publicity because he has been blacked out!!

Ironically it took just 1 angel AngelOne (aka SkyAngel) to take the so-called 3 angels (3ABN) from their perch in the sky.

[Panama_Pete]

Having talked at some length with Danny, Dr. Thompson, Kay Kuzma, Mark Finley, John Lomacang, and Mollie Steenson, I found that the security in being idolized through public perception incentivized further heinous actions and statements. I concluded that as long as they felt in full control of public perception, they would really have no incentive to consider making any fundamental changes, or backing away from the misery they were inflicting on people. As Clay says, one-on-one verbal confrontation is not the only option, however, it is an option that several of us who are posting here have vigorously pursued, but in vain.

How many visits did Moses make to Pharoah? The Bible tells us that "Pharoah's heart was hardened." Nevertheless, that didn't mean Moses threw in the towel.

In other words, I don't think the one-one verbal communication has been in vane, regardless of the result. Not at all. There is a Higher Power and that is what matters.

I've written, too. Many have.

Some corporations (groups of people) have a position of "avoiding intellectual capture" as described by C. Wright Mills, the sociologist. There often comes a point, over time, where avoidance doesn't work any more.

[Zephyr]

Our previously scheduled programming, Part 4 of “ In the midst of the Garden”, is interrupted for the following special presentation:

Stay tuned as the truth behind the scenes at 3ABN is further revealed...

Sister unless you believe you are a John the Baptist or Nathan (or Ellen White?) with a Divine mandate of direct confrontation you have crossed the rubicon.. prepare to defend yourself with all you've got...
I hope you know what you are doing...

This post has been edited by Zephyr: May 2 2006, 04:36 PM

[simplysaved]

That counsel is only applicable where the behavior is "secret." This is public behavior and susceptible to public comment, especially since it involves the person who made it all public.

But at some point, does it not become "gossip" if it is not addressed at/to the direct source...especially when there is opportunity?

I do not think that anyone is suggesting that people do not have a right to address the issues or ask probing questions....but rather for how long before it becomes obsessive or a type of idolatry in that is has become the constant center of attention?

This post has been edited by simplysaved: May 2 2006, 04:49 PM

[Clay]

But at some point, does it not become "gossip" if it is not addressed at/to the direct source...especially when there is opportunity?

I do not think that anyone is suggesting that people do not have a right to address the issues or ask probing questions....but rather for how long before it becomes obsessive or a type of idolatry in that is has become the constant center of attention?

if vegetarians can obsess about whose eating meat, how long does it take to digest meat, if eating meat prevents translation, did Jesus eat meat and when, then surely discussing the plight at 3abn won't harm us none..... likewise direct confrontation may not be possible IF those confronting still have family members working there and by directly confronting this with the person puts those family members in harms way....

As for it becoming a type of idolatry, I am sure that with the amount of members we have, other threads will be started dealing with other things that folks can weigh in on... afterall that is the purpose of a discussion board, to discuss those things that are of interest to you.....

How do you want to see your church represented? By a man who has “written” a book about the 10 Commandments and continues to proscribe to the false theology that he can be saved in his sins, not from them? As long as sin continues, and the sinner shows no interest in discontinuing his behavior...well answer these questions for yourself. Is there any doubt in your mind as to why a “gag order” was placed upon Linda?

This continues to be interesting and I would ask Sister that you have your proof of what you write in the event that people accuse you of character defamation.... if you cannot prove it, and show us the evidence, I am going to ask that you stick to writing only that which you have evidence for......

[PaperTigers]

Sister as a friend of an employee that was solicited, your sordid tale unfortunately doesn't shock me... I wish it did. This is a very sad situation and if you need anything at all Sister, don't hesitate to ask for help!!

I think it might be time for the gloves...

[HUGGINS130]

if vegetarians can obsess about whose eating meat, how long does it take to digest meat, if eating meat prevents translation, did Jesus eat meat and when, then surely discussing the plight at 3abn won't harm us none..... likewise direct confrontation may not be possible IF those confronting still have family members working there and by directly confronting this with the person puts those family members in harms way....

As for it becoming a type of idolatry, I am sure that with the amount of members we have, other threads will be started dealing with other things that folks can weigh in on... afterall that is the purpose of a discussion board, to discuss those things that are of interest to you.....

This continues to be interesting and I would ask Sister that you have your proof of what you write in the event that people accuse you of character defamation.... if you cannot prove it, and show us the evidence, I am going to ask that you stick to writing only that which you have evidence for......

Deep!!!

[PrincessDrRe]

still lurking...LOL

Have some popcorn? Soda? Juice?

Thanky!

if vegetarians can obsess about whose eating meat, how long does it take to digest meat, if eating meat prevents translation, did Jesus eat meat and when, then surely discussing the plight at 3abn won't harm us none.....

Yep-Yep!

[calvin]

Our previously scheduled programming, Part 4 of “ In the midst of the Garden”, is interrupted for the following special presentation:

“History always repeats itself or there is nothing new under the sun...”

A man in his twenties, casually dressed, sits in a chair in a waiting room. He yawns, a sure sign that sleep is attempting to be his companion as he continues his lonely vigil. Impatiently, he stares at his watch again. Shaking his wrist, he holds the time piece up to his ear. Like the constant drip of a Chinese water torture, he hears the seconds steadily ticking away, indicating that is has really only been 3 minutes since the last time he checked. Thumbing through a magazine, his brow wrinkles in agitation, as a thought plays over and over again in his mind, “Why did he so often draw the proverbial short straw and have the misfortune of sharing the hotel room with this particular cousin? ” Over the years he has been included, along with others, in a number of trips, traveling with his cousins. And in every city or town they frequented, the story remained the same...” Looking at his watch again, he discards the magazine he was browsing through. Nothing could grasp his attention, he there for what seemed like an eternity and waits. Feeling tired, soon his body began to slump in the uncomfortable hotel lobby chair.

At the sound of a familiar man’s voice and a woman’s high pitched laughter, he looks up. Standing before him is his cousin, pressing a few crumpled bills into a woman’s hand. Giving her a casual slap on her bottom and grinning as she heads out the door. Finally the evenings “cavorting ” was over. As he follows his cousin into the hotel room they are sharing, the rumpled sheets and the lingering scent of perfume give testimony of what had so recently transpired.

Sitting down on the edge of the bed, he hears the sound of water running in the bathroom and a voice lifted in song. Slowly unbuttoning his shirt and laying it on the bed, he shakes his head in unbelief, “How could his cousin continue availing himself of prostitutes services, when Kay and the girls were faithfully waiting at home?”

Mary Kay Kerleis-Shelton had two daughters from a previous marriage to a Mr. Leon Hammers. The first wife of Danny Shelton and the mother of Melody, she was known to everyone as “Kay”. With the help of the elder of her two daughters, she was planning to escape from this controlling and abusive second marriage. With no barriers Biblically for divorce, it was finally time to end the nightmare she was reliving day after day. Was Kay actually aware that Danny was “coming on” to one of her daughters? I do not know the answer. Perhaps there are others that can speak for Kay. To my knowledge, no announcement was made, for fear of Danny’s reaction.

The accident report stated that the stop sign was down at the intersection, and neither vehicle would have seen the other coming due to the high brush. Kay Shelton was broad-sided by a vehicle driven by a boy who was intoxicated. She was killed instantly. Melody was thrown through the windshield, out of the van and into a ditch. She sustained abrasions, lacerations, and a compound fracture in her right arm. This accident occurred less than two weeks after Kay and her eldest daughter began planning Kay’s escape from the controlling and abusive marriage that held her prisoner in her own home.

As Historians are fond of saying, “There is one thing certain about history, it always repeats itself.” And as is written in the book of Ecclesiastes, “Vanity, vanity, all is vanity...there is nothing new under the sun.” The names may change, but the story remains the same. Why does a man, with a wife waiting for him at home, frequent prostitutes? And why does a self-professed Christian pay for sex and seek out illicit affairs with the wives of friends and his employees in a Christian ministry, supposedly dedicated to “Mending Broken People”? Is his the face that best represents the Seven-day Adventist Church to the world? How do you want to see your church represented? By a man who has “written” a book about the 10 Commandments and continues to proscribe to the false theology that he can be saved in his sins, not from them? As long as sin continues, and the sinner shows no interest in discontinuing his behavior...well answer these questions for yourself. Is there any doubt in your mind as to why a “gag order” was placed upon Linda?

Stay tuned as the truth behind the scenes at 3ABN is further revealed...

Why are you bringing up someone’s alleged indiscretions from 25 or 30 years ago? You are no more the better than him for what you accurse him of. BSDA is not a place to sling dirt. This is un-Christ like. Story closed.

[beartrap]

Welcome back Sister!

[Zephyr]

Does that mean the thread is re-opened? yipee!!
To Sister: You are doing a great job of holding 3ABN and its principals accountable. We all know that there are 3ABN spies and damage-control agents who lurk/troll on BSDA.
I did believe some of the things in .your last tabloid were over the topyour post that the Boss reacted to were indeed over the top and too directly exposing of Danny as an individual.

I know it's because you want to show that you have detailed info and I believe you do... But as others have said we want to hold 3ABN accountable not roast Danny alive. Calvin and moderators should delete some of the hotel/prostitutes stuff. That was way over the top.

[PaperTigers]

Alright it's open again continue on Sister

[beartrap]

I strongly disagree that the problem is with 3ABN, and not with Danny personally. Danny himself often says that he IS 3ABN. The problems under discussion relate directly to him, and their relevance to 3ABN is relevant only as he has made his very personal financial, marital, family, hatered, and control issues, 3ABN's issues.

This post has been edited by beartrap: May 3 2006, 01:49 PM

[summertime]

Does that mean the thread is re-opened? yipee!!
To Sister: You are doing a great job of holding 3ABN and its principals accountable. We all know that there are 3ABN spies and damage-control agents who lurk/troll on BSDA.
I did believe some of the things in .your last tabloid were over the topyour post that the Boss reacted to were indeed over the top and too directly exposing of Danny as an individual.

I know it's because you want to show that you have detailed info and I believe you do... But as others have said we want to hold 3ABN accountable not roast Danny alive. Calvin and moderators should delete some of the hotel/prostitutes stuff. That was way over the top.

Well, maybe we should just keep it all under cover and then someday we can all watch it together when the sins of many are written into the skies of heaven. On the other hand, with the attitude that I am showing, maybe I should be sure that my own are not there.