An Unauthorized History of 3ABN, Chapter 5 (thread was closed then reopened) Options

[summertime]

Paper Tigers, you are no paper tiger, you are the real thing!

You and I both know very well the force and fury of what is headed your way. You are not standing alone. Over the past hour I have made a number of phone calls, and you have the full backing of local people here in the Frankfort area who are fully aware of Danny's indiscretions, some people who have been very high in the 3ABN circles, a psychologist who has been helping some of Danny's victims in their struggle to recover, and at least one highly placed conference official. If you get a letter from 3ABN threatening to sue you, and if they say that even if you win the case you still lose because they will keep you tied up in court for years running your finances dry in legal fees, don't worry. A number of us have recieved those letters. I threatened to send mine out to the media, or post it on the internet. They know that there is a media organization with an investigative reporter who is dying to get this info.

And who will pay the lawyers who will file all the lawsuits that 3ABN chooses to persue?

This post has been edited by summertime: May 3 2006, 08:17 PM

[beartrap]

And who will pay the lawyers who will file all the lawsuits that 3ABN chooses to persue?

The donors or a single large donor.

This post has been edited by beartrap: May 3 2006, 08:34 PM

[Johann]

I think that we should all keep in mind the fact that Danny's past hasn't just stayed in the past...
If that were true than I would agree that we should drop it, but as recently as two years ago I know he was still doing the same things. He offered a fellow employee (and great friend of mine) money to help pay her bills if she would sleep with him. I'm sorry but unless a miracle of God happens a zebra can't change it's stripes.

BSDA is not a legal court. . . but I know I can take Paper Tiger's word as true in this case.

[Panama_Pete]

If "the word network" is willing to telecast someone asking you to send him a letter and a check so that he can keep the check and put the letter in a pile and pray over it, what makes you think that 3abn should be pulled?

I am not thinking that 3ABN should be pulled. I hope the best for 3ABN and that everything will work out somehow.

However, since you mentioned Word Network. There are two articles about them, from 2002 and 2004, and their letters and checks.

Background: The Adell family is a wealthy white family that controls a black gospel channel. They have, in the past, gotten onto cable systems by, apparently, giving the impression that Word Network was a minority-owned network. Remember that Word is a "nonprofit" religious broadcaster. And notice, in the second article, where the money goes.

Another background note: People move to Florida because homestead exemptions in bankruptcy are high. Put all of your remaining assets into your principal Florida home, and the bankruptcy courts can't take it, even if the home is a mansion. But it must be shown to be your actual home. Not a vacation home.

There are two stories printed here.

Some of these themes will sound vaguely familiar to you.

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Wednesday, October 13, 2004

Word Network exec leads flashy life, court records show

TV chief owns three homes, despite bankruptcy filing.

By Louis Aguilar / The Detroit News

The co-founder of the world's largest black gospel channel - Southfield-based The Word Network - still is living large even while trying to convince a bankruptcy judge that he's broke.

According to documents released Tuesday in U.S. District Court in Fort Myers, Fla., Kevin Adell owns three homes; drives a Bentley, Hummer and Porsche; purchased $15,000 worth of jewelry for his wife; and spends $14,000 a month.

The spending shows Kevin Adell, 37, should not be eligible for Chapter 11 bankruptcy protection, claims his largest creditor, John Richards Home Building Co. of Bingham Farms. The home builder also is claiming that Adell is attempting to shield his assets through The Word Network and other broadcast companies owned by his father, Frank Adell.

U.S. District Court Judge Alexander Paskay in Florida is expected to rule on Kevin Adell's bankruptcy petition in the coming weeks. He also will decide if a Michigan court can go after assets of the Adell Broadcasting and Satellite Television Network.

Frank Adell owns Mount Clemens-based WADL-TV, Adell Broadcasting Corp. and Satellite Television Network Inc. Kevin Adell is president of The Word Network and STN and vice president of WADL-TV, Channel 38.

A spokesperson for Kevin Adell and The Word Network disputed claims that any assets have been hidden. "The Word and STN are separate and distinct ... and have absolutely nothing to do with Mr. Adell's bankruptcy trial," Sam Riddle said. "We don't comment on (Kevin) Adell's lifestyle. But I remind you that Donald Trump has gone bankrupt before."

Four years ago, Kevin Adell co-founded The Word, which grew into one of the nation's most successful religious broadcast companies by beaming African-American church services to 34 million households.

But a bitter legal dispute between Kevin Adell and John Richards Home caused Adell to move to Florida and seek bankruptcy protection. The dispute arose over a $3 million home, owned by John Shekerjian, that John Richards was building for Adell. After the two sides disagreed on progress of construction of the home, Adell sued the home builder and later attempted to force him into involuntary bankruptcy. Adell also hired a public relations firm to publicize the bankruptcy claim, which the home builder claims devastated his reputation. A federal judge ordered Adell to pay $6.4 million, including $2 million in punitive damages.

In May 2003, shortly after the judgment, Adell took steps to protect his wealth. He cashed in $1.7 million in U.S. Treasury bills and sold 12 vehicles in one day - including a Porsche, two Bentleys, a Ferrari and a Lamborghini - according to court documents. Adell then moved to Florida, paying $2.8 million in cash for a home in Naples, where state laws make it difficult for creditors to seize a person's house.

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Here's the Wall Street Journal story. It may be from 2002.



A Network's Tactic
For Getting on Air:
Protest Politics

Religious Channel Called In
Prominent Blacks for Help;

White Family Benefited

By PETER GRANT

Staff Reporter of THE WALL STREET JOURNAL


On a rainy morning in March 2002, three buses of African-American protesters emptied in front of the headquarters of Charter Communications Inc., a cable-TV operator, in suburban St. Louis. Soon a limousine pulled up, and the Rev. Al Sharpton stepped out to lead the demonstrators in chants of "No Justice, No Peace."

Within a few weeks, Charter met the protest organizers' main demand: that the company begin carrying the Word Network, a three-year-old cable and satellite channel whose programming consists mainly of African-American church services.

Thanks to such tactics, the Word Network has become one of the nation's top five religious networks, beamed by satellite or cable operators into 32 million households, mostly in the U.S., according to Word officials. Some of the country's most-prominent black leaders -- including the Rev. Jesse Jackson, Dick Gregory, Martin Luther King III and Johnnie Cochran Jr. -- have interceded on Word's behalf.

In return, many of the organizations run by the activists have received donations from backers of Word, according to Rev. Sharpton, Rev. Jackson and other participants. Rev. Sharpton and Rev. Jackson declined to say how much they've received. Others familiar with the matter say that their customary fee was about $10,000 plus expenses per event. "It is not unusual for people that we help to help the organization," Rev. Jackson says. "That does not affect our integrity at all. It's the way we survive."

But Word is an unusual cause for African-American activists. The network, a nonprofit organization, is controlled by Kevin Adell and his father, Frank Adell, members of a white Detroit-area family that made a fortune in the auto and broadcasting businesses. A substantial portion of the network's revenue, which was $7.6 million in the year that ended May 31, 2002, has gone to pay other Adell companies for rent, satellite transmission and other services, according to court documents reviewed by The Wall Street Journal.


Neither Kevin, 37 years old, nor Frank Adell, 75, who serve as president and chief executive of the Word Network, responded to repeated requests for an interview.

African-American leaders have been using confrontational tactics with U.S. businesses for more than 20 years to increase minority hiring, funnel business to black vendors and cease discriminatory practices. Facing boycotts, lawsuits and protests, numerous large corporations have made concessions, including Texaco Inc., Coca-Cola Co. and the Denny's restaurant chain. For black leaders, the tactics were justified to overcome years of racism.

In the case of Word, backers say playing hardball was necessary to make up for the television industry's history of discrimination and negative portrayal of blacks in programming. "We were not in the shakedown business," says Sam Riddle, one of the protest's lead organizers. "We were in the shakeup business."

The Adells also have a history of receiving the support of African-American activists for business and personal legal battles with a tenuous connection to Word. But in recent years, they have met increasing skepticism. Four black clergymen who were involved in the initial discussions about the Word Network sued the Adells shortly after Word was formed, charging that they were not given the ownership stakes and other participation they were promised. That case was settled out of court for undisclosed terms.


Meanwhile Kevin Adell's personal legal battles, such as an effort to force a homebuilder into involuntary bankruptcy, have caused other black leaders, including Rev. Sharpton, to distance themselves from the family. "Does Kevin pimp racism for his own personal ends?" asks Mr. Riddle. "It could certainly be perceived that way."

Building a Fortune

Frank Adell and his brothers, Robert and Marvin, built the family fortune in the 1960s and 1970s. Their company, Adell Industries Inc., made the stainless-steel moldings that fit over the edge of car doors, a feature that Robert patented. The brothers had a falling out in the late 1980s and eventually went to court over the breakup of the company. Today Marvin, 68, still runs the enterprise and says he doesn't speak to Frank anymore. (Robert is deceased.)

In the early 1980s, Frank Adell became interested in broadcasting and aligned himself with a group of prominent African-Americans in the Detroit area to bid on Channel 38, the last full-time commercial television license available in the region. The group, which formed Adell Broadcasting Corp., eventually included Horace Sheffield Jr., a prominent labor and civil-rights organizer, who died in 1995. His son, the Rev. Horace Sheffield III, is head of the Detroit chapter of Rev. Sharpton's National Action Network.


James Panagos, who was Adell Broadcasting's original programming manager, says the Federal Communications Commission granted Adell the license partly because its stockholders included minorities. An FCC spokeswoman says that the agency used to weigh minority ownership when making licensing decisions but stopped the practice more than 10 years ago in response to court challenges.

Adell Broadcasting tailored much of Channel 38's programming to the Detroit region's large African-American audience. The station began selling time to black ministers, charging about $500 to $600 per half hour, Mr. Panagos says. Infomercials were a staple of the station's schedule, he says.

In 1999, the Adells devised a plan for a national network focusing on gospel music and black church services. They organized a group of five African-American clergymen in the Detroit area to travel to El Segundo, Calif., to meet with executives of DirecTV, the country's largest satellite-television company. Rev. Jackson also attended the meeting, which was intended to persuade DirecTV to carry the new Word Network.

The day before they met with DirecTV, the clergymen asked for a stake in the new network at a meeting with the Adells, according to Denise Johnson, a broker of religious media who helped the Adells arrange the participation of the five clergymen. She says the Adells agreed to give each clergyman a 3% stake.

DirecTV executives agreed to carry Word partly because officials believed that the ministers were owners and active participants, according to people with knowledge of the situation. As the launch date approached in early 2000, however, four of the clergymen had a falling out with the Adells and eventually filed a lawsuit alleging that the Adells weren't honoring their commitments. (Bishop Charles Ellis III, the fifth clergyman, is the only African-American serving on Word's board, according to its most recent tax filing.)

In legal papers responding to the four ministers' lawsuit, the Adells denied that they had promised to make the ministers partners in Word.

Fee Structure

Word's revenue comes primarily from the fees ministers pay to have their services carried, currently about $2,500 per half hour, according to Lewis Gibbs, the network's head of operations. The ministers typically earn a portion of that revenue back by using their programs to sell tapes, CDs and other material.

Much of Word's revenue is pumped back into other Adell companies. The Adells own Word's headquarters building in suburban Detroit. And in a 1999 document obtained by a division of Hughes Electronics Corp. in a separate Adell legal battle, Word agreed to pay an Adell entity called Satellite Television Network Inc. a fee equal to 95% of Word's net programming revenue or STN's costs, whichever is lower. The fee covers STN's legal fees, payments to contractors, supplies, and salaries and overhead expenses related to its transmission of Word's signal to DirecTV.

To sell time to ministers, the Word had to persuade other cable and satellite operators besides DirecTV to carry the network. It hired Betsy Kellman, a veteran cable executive, who began to pitch Word to the heads of programming of numerous operators. But heavy competition for available channels made Word a tough sell.

"When [Word] took a traditional approach, the result was zip," Mr. Riddle says. "When we started kicking down the door, carriage zoomed."

In the spring of 2000, Kevin Adell and Rev. Sharpton showed up unannounced at the headquarters of what was then AT&T Corp.'s cable operation. AT&T Broadband had been talking to Word about a possible deal, but nothing had been finalized.

Allan Singer, the No. 2 executive in charge of programming, ushered the two visitors into a conference room, and Rev. Sharpton soon began yelling at him, accusing the company of discrimination, according to someone familiar with the situation. Almost immediately after the meeting, AT&T Broadband agreed to carry Word. Rev. Sharpton says he doesn't recall the meeting. AT&T Broadband has since been sold to Comcast Corp., which declined to comment on the internal meetings of the prior owner.

At about that same time, Mr. Riddle says he began working on behalf of Word. Mr. Riddle, 57, has been a well-known activist since 1972, when he led a civil-rights demonstration that shut down a Big 10 basketball game between Michigan State University and the University of Iowa. "My history is one of confronting and then exacting concessions," he says.

Mr. Riddle, who lives in the Detroit area and makes his living as a political and media consultant, says he planned most of the demonstrations with Rev. Sheffield, keeping Kevin Adell apprised. When they targeted a cable or satellite company, they typically would first reach out to local civil-rights organizations to get them involved. In some cases, Mr. Riddle gathered protesters from homeless shelters, fed them breakfast and gave them about $50 each. "I like to refer to it as 'rent a demonstration,' " he says.

The pressure tactics wouldn't have been necessary if cable and satellite companies offered more positive programming about African-Americans, says Mr. Riddle, who argues that too many of the blacks seen on television are involved in sex, drugs or violence. "We gained carriage because we were right," he says.

Rev. Sharpton or other representatives of the National Action Network and its chapters attended protests at the headquarters of EchoStar Communications Corp., Charter, Mediacom Communications Corp., in Middletown, N.Y., and XM Satellite Radio, in Washington. Protesters called the homes of executives of Charter, EchoStar and Mediacom. A few also showed up at the home of EchoStar's chief executive, Charlie Ergen, and at a high-school basketball game in which his daughter was playing.

Rev. Sharpton, who is running for president, says his work for Word was limited to consulting and attending meetings with cable and satellite executives on the network's behalf. When he participated in demonstrations at cable and satellite companies, he says, it was only to protest hiring or other discriminatory practices. "It had nothing to do with whether they carried the Word," he says.

Mr. Riddle, who says he helped arrange for Rev. Sharpton to attend the protests and occasionally paid him, says the main purpose of the protests was to force the operator to carry Word. "The objective was to open up the satellite and cable industry to value positive programming like the Word, and Sharpton was a key player," he says.

Word initially approached Charter in 2000 soon after the network was launched. Ms. Kellman pitched the network to Patty McCaskill, who was then Charter's vice president of programming. Ms. McCaskill replied that Charter carried other religious networks that included black clergymen and that it would be prohibitively expensive for Charter to add the equipment necessary to pick up the Word's signal, according to people familiar with the situation

About nine months later, Mr. Adell visited Charter to try again. Ms. McCaskill told him the same thing. He responded by noting that Word has a lot of support in the African-American community, these people say.

A month or so later, Charter got a phone call from a National Action Network chapter saying that representatives wanted to meet to resolve a number of issues. When they came in a few weeks later with Mr. Adell, they began by raising concerns about Charter's minority-hiring practices and use of African-American vendors. Only after that did they bring up Word. They also maintained that they were operating independently of Word, people familiar with the situation say. A Charter spokesman declines to comment on the meeting. A spokesperson for Ms. McCaskill, who left Charter earlier this year, also declines to comment.

Once Charter agreed to carry Word, the protesters' demands for action on hiring practices and the use of minority suppliers virtually ceased, according to people familiar with the situation.

Soon after the Charter protest, African-American organizations came to Mr. Adell's help in a personal dispute: a legal fight over a $3.1 million home he was trying to build in Bloomfield Hills, a Detroit suburb. Mr. Adell filed suits accusing John Richards Homes Building Co., Birmingham, Mich., and a unit of Charter One Financial Inc., of conspiring to inflate the value of the land, among other things.

As the lawsuits were being filed, groups including the Michigan chapter of the National Action Network issued a news release accusing Charter One of discriminatory lending practices and other abuses, and organized several demonstrations in front of the bank's Cleveland headquarters. At a meeting with bank officials and Mr. Adell, protesters brought up Mr. Adell's lawsuit, alleging he was being treated unfairly because of his association with Word, according to people who were there.

Mr. Adell later tried to force John Richards into involuntary bankruptcy. A U.S. bankruptcy court quickly dismissed that effort and earlier this year awarded John Richards $6.4 million in damages, one of the largest judgments ever assessed against someone for a wrongful involuntary bankruptcy filing, bankruptcy attorneys say. "Adell's conduct was reprehensible and must be deterred and punished," wrote U.S. bankruptcy Judge Steven Rhodes in his ruling.

Partly because of the John Richards case, which is under appeal, Rev. Sharpton is rethinking his association with Mr. Adell. "My whole relationship with his organization is something I'm reviewing," he says.

John Richards principals have had a difficult time collecting because Mr. Adell has taken steps to shield his assets, including moving to Florida. There, he bought a $2.8 million home to take advantage of that state's homestead law, which makes it very difficult for creditors to seize residences. When marshals arrived to seize the contents of Mr. Adell's suburban Detroit home, the only thing left inside was a picture of a monkey with a note from Mr. Adell saying it should be saved for John Richards's lawyer, Norman Ankers.

In recent months, the protests on Word's behalf have slowed. Mr. Adell has been fighting to hold onto his home in Florida. In September, Judge Rhodes ruled that he can't use the state's homestead law to shelter the home from his creditors, partly because he failed to demonstrate that he intended to live in Florida permanently. On Nov. 14, three days before Mr. Adell's deadline for selling the house passed, Mr. Adell filed a petition in Florida seeking bankruptcy protection.

Meanwhile, Mr. Adell also has been busy trying to start a new network in Florida, Cubana One Network, which he also structured as a tax-exempt organization that is to feature programming targeted at Florida's large Cuban population.

In August, Cubana One issued a press release criticizing Bright House Networks, a major Florida cable operator, for not meeting with Mr. Adell and another network executive. It quotes Hilda Luisa Diaz, of the Jose Marti Educational Foundation Inc., as saying: "If there is space for six porno channels, there should be at least one channel available to disseminate ... uplifting family entertainment."

Soon after, Bright House executives agreed to meet, but a company spokeswoman says it has no plans to add the network at this time.
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This post has been edited by Panama_Pete: May 4 2006, 06:32 AM

[sister]

I think that we should all keep in mind the fact that Danny's past hasn't just stayed in the past...
If that were true than I would agree that we should drop it, but as recently as two years ago I know he was still doing the same things. He offered a fellow employee (and great friend of mine) money to help pay her bills if she would sleep with him. I'm sorry but unless a miracle of God happens a zebra can't change it's stripes.

I agree with Beartrap, I know that you are the genuine article, not a PaperTiger. I thank you for stepping forward, it took more courage than most of those reading here can ever imagine. You go girl!

I am positive that there are more facts you could share about what goes on "Behind the Scenes at 3ABN".

[sister]

“Bearing False Witness... Part 1”

What does it mean to bear false witness? Does it mean knowingly providing information as fact that is nothing more than mere gossip? Is it reconstructing the truth in such a manner that it no longer represents the original? Perhaps it is telling just enough of the truth to appear plausible, while the addition of fabricated details are employed to deceive? Or is it the outright lie, unencumbered by not even a wisp of truth, applied to a situation in order to serve the purpose of the liar? It is all of those things...each with the same intent, to deceive the audience for which it was contrived.

I would like to reassure Vonessa, who has expressed her concern for my eternal salvation, that I have not broken that precious commandment and born false witness in my narrations. And to answer another concern she conveyed, am I the cousin of Danny Shelton who sat in the hotel lobby and if not, is it merely contrived for sensationalism? I must preface my answer with the following. It is not wise for me to provide any information concerning my identity. Anyone that has read Beartraps previous posts in this thread can understand my position. What I can say is that the information comes directly from a source that was present and it is sworn to be the truth. Is this a reliable source, personally speaking, yes, 100%. Are there others, members of this forum, that can verify that the same information was heard by them from the same source that was present at the event, yes.

The information contained in my unauthorized history of 3ABN is based upon the facts, as I know them. It is not derived from a “single rumor” upon which I have extrapolated, nor is it the case that the accounts are “a lot of fluff mixed in with a little of the truth”. Sensationalism merely to pull the reader into buying the story, like the tabloids that scream their headlines while customers wait in the checkout line? No. “Am I aware that the reputation of a man is involved.” Yes. But what about his ex-wife, what about the reputation of Linda Shelton and the suffering she has experienced? What about the damage that is being done to the reputation of 3ABN through the exploits of Danny Shelton, “the face of Adventism to the World”? And the future damage that can result to the Seventh-day Adventist Church, as a denomination, if Danny does not step down from the throne of power that he has built to glorify himself, while lining his pockets with donations intended for the proclamation of the Gospel of Jesus Christ?

It has been said, “This is a very serious discussion and one ought to consider whether they should go into it or tell others about this story with fear and trembling before the Lord our God.” For those who have lived this story, the fear and trembling they have experienced has not come from the thought of facing God. For those who have experienced the loss of their reputation, employment, those whom they considered trusted friends, the fellowship of their church family and the support of their local pastor: God has been their only succor—his Holy Spirit their only comforter—the promises of their Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ, what keeps them getting out of bed every morning—that is what has sustained them in their distress and has given them the strength to have hope for a better future.

Stay tuned as the unauthorized history of 3ABN continues...

[Clay]

Then help me understand with all this info about the dark side of 3ABN why those who know are not scheduling press conferences, talking with churches and whoever will listen, putting up a 3ABN survivor website stating the facts and by so doing end the insanity? Mr. Shelton does not have money to pay off everyone, so why the hesitation to pull back the curtain and just tell?

What am I missing?

[sonshineonme]

Then help me understand with all this info about the dark side of 3ABN why those who know are not scheduling press conferences, talking with churches and whoever will listen, putting up a 3ABN survivor website stating the facts and by so doing end the insanity? Mr. Shelton does not have money to pay off everyone, so why the hesitation to pull back the curtain and just tell?

What am I missing?

You just need to be patient It's coming.........

[Brother Sam]

It has been brought to my attention that any board that had something to hide would want a gag order on Linda. Any ethical christian board would not ask someone to sign a gag order if they didn't have something to hide. What does Linda know, what are they afriad that will come out? They are exercising their freedom of speech to lie and slander or otherwise. She is saddled with a gag order and denied her freedom of speech to tell the truth and share facts.

It was posted by someone that the board wouldn't let Linda or her witness address the board. If this is true, my question is - what kind of a board is this? This is the United States of America where we pride ourselves on freedom and justice for all, not some third world country that is run by a dictator. Is the 3ABN board run by a dictator?

I also question what Danny and the board are trying to hide or cover up?

If they can't release Linda from the gag order, they need to resign and be replaced by ethical christian people. It appears the letters of slander about Linda are anything but christian or ethical.

It's time for them to publicly humble themselves, repent and ask God and the parties they have slandered for forgiveness.

[sonshineonme]

It has been brought to my attention that any board that had something to hide would want a gag order on Linda. Any ethical christian board would not ask someone to sign a gag order if they didn't have something to hide. What does Linda know, what are they afriad that will come out? They are exercising their freedom of speech to lie and slander or otherwise. She is saddled with a gag order and denied her freedom of speech to tell the truth and share facts.

It was posted by someone that the board wouldn't let Linda or her witness address the board. If this is true, my question is - what kind of a board is this? This is the United States of America where we pride ourselves on freedom and justice for all, not some third world country that is run by a dictator. Is the 3ABN board run by a dictator?

I also question what Danny and the board are trying to hide or cover up?

If they can't release Linda from the gag order, they need to resign and be replaced by ethical christian people. It appears the letters of slander about Linda are anything but christian or ethical.

It's time for them to publicly humble themselves, repent and ask God and the parties they have slandered for forgiveness.

You hit the nail on the head. Now we just have to see if they will do the RIGHT thing, before it's too late.

[beartrap]

Then help me understand with all this info about the dark side of 3ABN why those who know are not scheduling press conferences, talking with churches and whoever will listen, putting up a 3ABN survivor website stating the facts and by so doing end the insanity? Mr. Shelton does not have money to pay off everyone, so why the hesitation to pull back the curtain and just tell?

What am I missing?

Clay, its not just the money to pay people off. Any individual who would dare to do as you have suggested will be publicly torn to pieces on 3ABN, Danny and his lawyers etc. will call their friends and family telling stories and claiming to have evidence of stuff, and we all know that Danny NEVER lets go. years later he will still be hounding that persons steps. He has done it to so many of us already that it is a well known, established fact with the 3ABN insiders, and many of the top church leadership know the same thing. Talk to the local people in the Thompsonville/West Frankfort community. They will say the same thing and tell you that it goes back 4 or 5 decades. They will also tell you that 3ABN is a cult commune and that any contact with 3ABN is conspicuously avoided by most locals. They will tell you that 3ABN and Danny Shelton have demonstrated beyond a doubt that the Seventh-day Adventist Church is a cult.

Open invitation. Come to Thompsonville and eat dinner at the Thompsonville Cafe, and just ask the other diners about 3ABN and Danny. Go to West Frankfort and have dinner at Hungrys on W. Main, and ask. Go to the barbershops, the lodges, the local churches of any denomination, the library, and ask. Ask the Summers family who donated the first two acres of property to Danny for 3ABN what they think about that donation now. Come on out here and ask.

Having asked them personally you will gerenally get an ear full. But ask if they would be willing to go public with this info and see what their reaction is. Ask them why they are so afraid of Danny; too afraid to go public. Yes, ask that too.

This post has been edited by beartrap: May 4 2006, 08:21 PM

[PaperTigers]

unfortunately what Bear says is true...
Danny doesn't just fight, he fights dirty. He doesn't care if it's fact or fiction, he sling dirt on your name in a heartbeat to throw the attention off of himself...



It's not always as easy to do the right thing as it seems.

[summertime]

unfortunately what Bear says is true...
Danny doesn't just fight, he fights dirty. He doesn't care if it's fact or fiction, he sling dirt on your name in a heartbeat to throw the attention off of himself...



It's not always as easy to do the right thing as it seems.

What about the reporter of the media who is watching this forum.? Why doesn't he write about it? Is he afraid of Danny also? I believe you, but how in the world could anyone be that powerful?

[calvin]

that's between you and God Vonessa... there is no indication necessarily that anyone is bearing false witness, but ultimately you have to do what God is telling you to do....

What about the reporter of the media who is watching this forum.? Why doesn't he write about it? Is he afraid of Danny also? I believe you, but how in the world could anyone be that powerful?

I too question why you folks are spending so much time on a message board telling this story. Is not Atoday or the religious press interested in this story? I am still not convinced that this story is as newsworthy as many of you have made it out to be.

[Jvat]

Yes, Summertime, that has been my question from ever since. How on earth can ONE MAN be so very powerful and intimidating? Who made him so?