 Email From Danny Shelton, Received thsi personal email for Danny Shelton today |
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 Jul 17 2006, 06:10 PM
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QUOTE(Nuggie @ Jul 17 2006, 08:02 PM) [snapback]140008[/snapback] Oh Danny boy, the truth, the truth is calling From sea to sea, and down the mountain side The summer's gone, and all the flowers are dying 'Tis you, 'tis you must go so the truth won't hide. And don't come ye back when summer's in the meadow Or when the valley's hushed and white with snow 'Cause the truth will be here in sunshine or in shadow Oh Danny boy, oh Danny boy, you really have to go.    
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Jul 17 2006, 06:18 PM
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QUOTE(Nuggie @ Jul 17 2006, 08:02 PM) [snapback]140008[/snapback] Oh Danny boy, the truth, the truth is calling From sea to sea, and down the mountain side The summer's gone, and all the flowers are dying 'Tis you, 'tis you must go so the truth won't hide. And don't come ye back when summer's in the meadow Or when the valley's hushed and white with snow 'Cause the truth will be here in sunshine or in shadow Oh Danny boy, oh Danny boy, you really have to go. I'll sang the tenor..... 
-------------------- *"Some folks use their ignorance like a umbrella. It covers everything, they perodically take it out from time to time, but it never is too far away from them."*
PrincessDrRe; March, 2007 ~"Blood = Meat, Face = Meat, Internal "Organs" = Meat - you can try to make it cuter; but it's still meat...."~ PrincessDrRe; September, 2007 *(NOTE: Any advice given by Re' Silvey, MSW is not to be taken as medical/mental health advice. Although trained to be a counselor, currently employed as a therapist, and currently pursuing her PhD in Counseling Psychology (ABD/I) - she is not your assigned therapist. Please consult a mental health professional of your choice for a face-to-face consultation.)* |
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 Jul 17 2006, 06:24 PM
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All ya'll need to leave them folks at 3ABN alone
 . God will take care of it all in the end. You surely cannot expect these folks to tell the whole story. Leave it alone ya'll no good is going to come from this.
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Jul 17 2006, 06:28 PM
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QUOTE(pmorris68 @ Jul 18 2006, 02:24 AM) [snapback]140020[/snapback] All ya'll need to leave them folks at 3ABN alone . God will take care of it all in the end. You surely cannot expect these folks to tell the whole story. Leave it alone ya'll no good is going to come from this.-------------------- "Any fact that needs to be disclosed should be put out now or as quickly as possible, because otherwise the bleeding will not end." (Attributed to Henry Kissinger) "He who passively accepts evil is as much involved in it as he who helps to perpetrate it" (Martin Luther King)  "The truth can lose nothing by close investigation". (1888 Materials 38) |
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Jul 17 2006, 06:34 PM
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And Mr. Shelton would have us believe that he is the most credible person in the universe.... yeah right...
-------------------- "you are as sick as your secrets...." -quote from Celebrity Rehab-
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Jul 17 2006, 06:37 PM
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My response to Danny.
Danny, I dont know you, Linda, Dr. Abrahamsen or Elder Lomacang. I have no reason to believe either of you are more creditable or honest than the other. However the letter from Dr. Abrahamsen has given me cause to believe that there may be more to this than the venting of a few ex-employees. This letter is damaging to you, but Dr. Thompsons letter was equally as damaging to Linda and Dr. Abrahamsen. So, who is lying? As I forward this letter broadly to the leaders and those of influence in the Adventist church, I am asking for an independent investigation. Would you agree to an investigation? To be fair, Linda and Dr. Abrahamsen the 3ABN board and others will need to participate as well. I am not interested in the demise of 3ABN. I take my responsible as a local church elder seriously. I believe anyone in church leadership should adhere to high moral and ethnical standards. If what is true that has been said about you, they I want to know why your board, the Adventist church and its major independent ministries continue to support you? If you have nothing to hide then why not participate in an investigation and clear your name? By the way, sister on BSDA is not Linda Shelton as it has been rumored nor is she posing as anyone else. Although members can hide behind a screen name they cannot hide their Internet protocol address (IP) which uniquely identifies everyone and the system keeps a log of all IP addresses ever used by each member. The system also provides search tools to compare IP addresses. Linda did an interview on BSDA in October, 2004 and has not been back to BSDA since then. Keep in mind BSDA is a public open forum, very few issues affecting the Adventist church that are off limit. You are a public figure in the Adventist church, which puts you in play. oops, typing to fast, made a few grammer errors, but Danny got the message This post has been edited by calvin: Jul 17 2006, 06:43 PM |
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Jul 17 2006, 06:48 PM
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QUOTE(pmorris68 @ Jul 17 2006, 07:24 PM) [snapback]140020[/snapback] All ya'll need to leave them folks at 3ABN alone . God will take care of it all in the end. You surely cannot expect these folks to tell the whole story. Leave it alone ya'll no good is going to come from this.Did you ever write to them and tell them to leave us alone? Do you have any idea how many people those folk at 3ABN have maliciously wounded and destroyed over the years? I think alot of Adventists would have yelled at the good Samaritan if they saw him helping that beat up guy. They would have thrown rocks at him, and told him to leave it to God. After all, maybe the guy deserved to be pounded. How could he know the real story behind that victim? I know it is much easier to "leave it to God" than to stand up for right and say no to evil. Yes, you will probably get hurt in the process, but as Shakespeare said, "The peace of heaven is theirs who raise their sword in such a just, an charitable war." |
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Jul 17 2006, 06:51 PM
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I'm sure the good doctor can tell us here whether he said these things to John Lomacang. to Brenda and to his Norwegian conference president or not. He has said and Linda has said that they have not had an affair. What more can they say? I would believe him before I would believe Danny any day of the week. And as I have done a little research into what Danny alledged just in case it might have been true, among other things that I found is that the doctor has been quite a wealthy man for a long time and does not need to "protect his investment" or his reputation by perjuring himself and endangering his eternal life.
The doctor is not just a "so called doctor" but as far as I know is fully credentialed. Danny your letter is dripping with sarcasm and you seem to me to be very paranoid about the chance of Linda talking about you here or in any of the other forums. Why would you think she would do that? You cannot read the motives of anyone's heart although you seem to think you can. And you are ascribing the very worst motives to your "enemies". I don't know who you think is Linda but have you even considered the possibility that she is none of us and is trying to do the Christian thing by living quietly, not speaking ill of you here or anywhere else, and that she only tries to protect her reputation when she is attacked and merely truthfully denies what she is accused of. The pastor who counseled you, John Lomacang, the 3ABN board, including the Illinois Conference President. ect support you because they know what you have told them and they feel that 3ABN has been and is a blessing to the church. Besides, in the past you have had great political power within the church. Anything Linda or others have said has been compared to your version of things and if their reports do not confirm what you alledge, they are said to be liars. If Linda or anyone said anything about the situation it was first understood that since you were to be believed, what they said was not to be taken at face value but was to be searched for hidden meanings and inconsistancies. When I hear you or others on 3ABN make insinuations about Linda, it is quite apparent who you are talking about and that you just must make her look bad. Even if she was guilty (which I do not believe) why must you still be trying to convince everyone after all this time? I don't mean just now after the Dr's letter, but continually during the whole 2 1/2 years? |
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Jul 17 2006, 07:01 PM
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3ABN for ideas on program changes that will make it more "relevant".
QUOTE(Johann @ Jul 17 2006, 03:52 PM) [snapback]139998[/snapback] Watching what? -------------------- TTFN
Di And we know that all things work together for good to them that love God, to them who are the called according to his purpose---Romans 8:28 A great many people believe they are thinking when they are merely rearranging their prejudices.-- William James It is better to be silent and be thought a fool, than to speak and remove all doubt.- Mark Twain |
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Jul 17 2006, 07:07 PM
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Well Danny just got caught in another lie when he made this definitive statement "Yes, she doesn't use her real name on your chat room but we know who she is." Did he think that Calvin couldn't figure that one out real quick?
Kinda like the Televangelist deal, huh Danny? |
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Jul 17 2006, 07:08 PM
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Because he can only come from his own frame of reference. He has spent 2 1/2+ plus(because he just didn't think this plan up on the fly) years demonizing this woman, he expects her to do exactly the same to him. Her Godly and christian response is foreign to him.
QUOTE(lurker @ Jul 17 2006, 04:51 PM) [snapback]140029[/snapback] I'm sure the good doctor can tell us here whether he said these things to John Lomacang. to Brenda and to his Norwegian conference president or not. He has said and Linda has said that they have not had an affair. What more can they say? I would believe him before I would believe Danny any day of the week. And as I have done a little research into what Danny alledged just in case it might have been true, among other things that I found is that the doctor has been quite a wealthy man for a long time and does not need to "protect his investment" or his reputation by perjuring himself and endangering his eternal life. The doctor is not just a "so called doctor" but as far as I know is fully credentialed. Danny your letter is dripping with sarcasm and you seem to me to be very paranoid about the chance of Linda talking about you here or in any of the other forums. Why would you think she would do that? You cannot read the motives of anyone's heart although you seem to think you can. And you are ascribing the very worst motives to your "enemies". I don't know who you think is Linda but have you even considered the possibility that she is none of us and is trying to do the Christian thing by living quietly, not speaking ill of you here or anywhere else, and that she only tries to protect her reputation when she is attacked and merely truthfully denies what she is accused of. The pastor who counseled you, John Lomacang, the 3ABN board, including the Illinois Conference President. ect support you because they know what you have told them and they feel that 3ABN has been and is a blessing to the church. Besides, in the past you have had great political power within the church. Anything Linda or others have said has been compared to your version of things and if their reports do not confirm what you alledge, they are said to be liars. If Linda or anyone said anything about the situation it was first understood that since you were to be believed, what they said was not to be taken at face value but was to be searched for hidden meanings and inconsistancies. When I hear you or others on 3ABN make insinuations about Linda, it is quite apparent who you are talking about and that you just must make her look bad. Even if she was guilty (which I do not believe) why must you still be trying to convince everyone after all this time? I don't mean just now after the Dr's letter, but continually during the whole 2 1/2 years? -------------------- TTFN
Di And we know that all things work together for good to them that love God, to them who are the called according to his purpose---Romans 8:28 A great many people believe they are thinking when they are merely rearranging their prejudices.-- William James It is better to be silent and be thought a fool, than to speak and remove all doubt.- Mark Twain |
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Jul 17 2006, 07:10 PM
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QUOTE(princessdi @ Jul 17 2006, 08:01 PM) [snapback]140030[/snapback] 3ABN for ideas on program changes that will make it more "relevant". Stop before you get me put out of my house!!!!
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Jul 17 2006, 07:15 PM
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Yes Dr. Abrahamsen is fully credentialed. And I recently spoke with a doctor in Loma Linda who goes to Dr. Abrahamsen for medical help.
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Jul 17 2006, 07:24 PM
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QUOTE(beartrap @ Jul 18 2006, 03:07 AM) [snapback]140031[/snapback] Well Danny just got caught in another lie when he made this definitive statement "Yes, she doesn't use her real name on your chat room but we know who she is." Did he think that Calvin couldn't figure that one out real quick? Kinda like the Televangelist deal, huh Danny? This is the kind of statements we have grown used to from Danny Shelton. Some people believe he is the only one who knows the truth when he makes statements like that. This is what Linda had to face again and again throughout her ordeal, and I witnessed it many times, verified by Danny's e-mail. This post has been edited by Johann: Jul 17 2006, 07:27 PM -------------------- "Any fact that needs to be disclosed should be put out now or as quickly as possible, because otherwise the bleeding will not end." (Attributed to Henry Kissinger) "He who passively accepts evil is as much involved in it as he who helps to perpetrate it" (Martin Luther King) "The truth can lose nothing by close investigation". (1888 Materials 38) |
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Jul 17 2006, 07:28 PM
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Danny, I belive is the one lying. The tone of his reponse is empty and extremly defensive. But [b]we are blowing gaps all through it. It is weak, shallow, and gross inexactitudes. Watch out folks, the one who is lying is speaking loudly about himself.
_______________________________________ QUOTE(calvin @ Jul 17 2006, 05:46 PM) [snapback]139974[/snapback] Calvin, I'm very disappointed that you would read a letter from this so called Dr. and support it without even attempting to find out if it is true. This is not the Christian way. This Dr. knows nothing of me except what Linda has told him. We have only talked a few minutes throughout this last 2 1/2 years. This letter is a lie and I'm surprised that you would stake your credibility online to take sides with them. He and Linda did have an affair. Why do you think that the pastor who counseled us, John Lomacang, the 3ABN board, including the Illinois Conference Pres. ect support me. They know things you do not. We are not out to hurt Linda. If you read the chat rooms it's She, Johann, Arild and Derrell. Not 3ABN people talking about this situation. Besides we have been divorced for over 2 yrs. Yes, she doesn't use her real name on your chat room but we know who she is. The way you are going about this is not Christ like. If you want to know the truth you are supposed to try to find out. Otherwise it is just gossip. What a shame that your chatroom is being used to try to destroy the work of the gospel rather than to spread Jesus to the world. This Dr. does not tell you that he has told John Lomacang, Brenda Walsh, and even his own Norwegian Conf. Pres that he, the Dr., believes that Linda is in love with him, but that he is not in love with her. He told this while we were married. He was trying to save his own name. But now, 2 yrs after our divorce, he has a lot to gain to try to keep Linda's ministry going. In fact, $100,000. In 2004 instead of encouraging Linda to stay with me, They bought a house together. He put up $100,000 and she put up the other approx. $100,000. Yes, the court papers say it is a 10 year loan, but the Dr. knows that the nearly $250,000 that that 3ABN gave Linda as a separation agreement is about depleted. Linda has said that she is not going to work. She said, and I quote, "I'm not going to cook hamburgers the rest of my life." She wants people to support her financially. The Dr. has to help her in order to get his own money back. Please call John Lomacang, before you ruin your own credibility and hear another side of the story. XXXX or XXXX Thanks, Danny We do not want our side on the chat rooms, but I do think that you should not encourage your supporters to get involved in something they know nothing about. Danny Shelton |
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