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post Apr 4 2007, 05:37 AM
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QUOTE(Snoopy @ Apr 3 2007, 06:02 PM) [snapback]189855[/snapback]

yes.gif yes.gif yes.gif ......I agree!! Please keep the stories coming...!!



One other short comment:

Most of us know the story of Desmond Doss who was awarded the Medal of Honor. It has sometimes been either stated that he was the first conscientious objector to be awarded the Medal of Honor, or that he was the only such person. Those statements need further clairfication.

Doss, may not have been the first. A Roman Catholic priest, who was a Navy chaplain, may have preceeded Doss. But, that issue may be a subect for debate on the issue of whether or not that priest was acutally a conscientious objector.

In any case, Doss was not the only such person. During the Viet Nam war, an African-American, conscientious objector, Baptist, combat medic was awarded the Medal of Honor. I have forgotten his name, for which I am very sorry. It should be noted that he lived to recieve that award.



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post Apr 4 2007, 05:48 AM
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QUOTE(Observer @ Apr 4 2007, 05:37 AM) [snapback]189957[/snapback]

One other short comment:

Most of us know the story of Desmond Doss who was awarded the Medal of Honor. It has sometimes been either stated that he was the first conscientious objector to be awarded the Medal of Honor, or that he was the only such person. Those statements need further clairfication.

Doss, may not have been the first. A Roman Catholic priest, who was a Navy chaplain, may have preceeded Doss. But, that issue may be a subect for debate on the issue of whether or not that priest was acutally a conscientious objector.

In any case, Doss was not the only such person. During the Viet Nam war, an African-American, conscientious objector, Baptist, combat medic was awarded the Medal of Honor. I have forgotten his name, for which I am very sorry. It should be noted that he lived to recieve that award.



NOTE: For those who would tell me that I was racist because I identified the person awarded the Medal of Honor as an African American, and I have been told such before, I willl simply say: In a nation built by people who traveled here from other countries, it is O.K. to point out the contributions made to our society by people from various ethnic, racial, and cultural groups.

In the hospital where I work, we celebrate the diversity of our nation in January. When I am asked to have a part in a formal program I typically work into my part major contributions made to this country and our life today by people that are little known and recognized, and whose relatives may have first come to this land as slaves.

Well, off of my soap box, and back to the issues of 3-ABN in this section.


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post Apr 4 2007, 07:17 AM
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Just my opinion Observer, but thanks for the off topic posts. spoton.gif It makes the rest of the reading more yogi-like (bearable I mean giggle.gif).


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post Apr 10 2007, 05:52 AM
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QUOTE(Truly Blonde @ Feb 1 2007, 08:06 AM) [snapback]174301[/snapback]



One thing I have noticed that is different. In the Review and Herald and in our union paper every month there are full page ads for the Hope channel. I am encouraged that our church seems to be wanting to let the people know that there is an alternative. This is a good sign.




A few days ago we saw the April issue of the Norwegian Union paper, Advent Nytt. During the past year or so the SDA church in Norway has used the Scandinavian branch of 3ABN to transmit their daily program, but we are told that the new name of the Norwegian TV is HOPE Channel Norway. In the future they will be closer knit to HOPE and use their programs.

This is also a good sign.

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post Apr 11 2007, 03:24 PM
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yes... long journeys do start off with one step.

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post Apr 12 2007, 10:20 AM
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QUOTE(Rosyroi @ Apr 11 2007, 11:24 PM) [snapback]190986[/snapback]

yes... long journeys do start off with one step.

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Rejoice knowing you are going in the right direction. That is much better that going by leaps and bounds in the wrong direction.


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Save3abn.com just topped 100,000 hits.


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"Lisa and Ronda are not Danny's biological father." -- wwjd, 2/8/07
"Watchbird, The facts prove the above lie." -- wwjd, 2/13/07
"Another lie that can be proven..." -- Bystander, 3/18/07
"The thing about lies is they can be proven." -- Aletheia, 3/22/07
"I am not here to argue" -- Aletheia, 4/24/07
"She didn't move to 3ABN, she moved to Illinois" -- Aletheia, 4/25/07
"Hope is liberal. 3abn is not." -- steffan, 6/9/07
"Danny Shelton does not decide what goes on the air, period." -- appletree, 8/22/07


http://www.save-3abn.com/
http://www.investigating3abn.info/
http://rescue3abn.blog.com/
http://www.abundantrest.org/?p=74
http://abundantrest.org/2007/02/18/3abn-sa...ons-retirement/
http://anewsabbathschool.blogspot.com/2006...ain-wrecks.html
http://cafesda.blogspot.com/2006/08/atoday...bn-news_21.html
http://www.atoday.com/email/2007/02/12/
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post Apr 20 2007, 04:58 PM
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QUOTE(ex3ABNemployee @ Apr 20 2007, 12:14 PM) [snapback]192169[/snapback]

Save3abn.com just topped 100,000 hits.

So I'm now wondering if Dan Shelton will pull Doug Batchelor and others down with him?

Are those who stopped giving to 3ABN (producing a 3-million-dollar deficit) now be reassured since Doug Batchelor has teamed up with Danny Shelton, or will they conclude that Doug must be as tainted as Danny ... perhaps that he's hiding something too? dunno.gif
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QUOTE(inga @ Apr 20 2007, 03:58 PM) [snapback]192228[/snapback]

So I'm now wondering if Dan Shelton will pull Doug Batchelor and others down with him?

Are those who stopped giving to 3ABN (producing a 3-million-dollar deficit) now be reassured since Doug Batchelor has teamed up with Danny Shelton, or will they conclude that Doug must be as tainted as Danny ... perhaps that he's hiding something too? dunno.gif


Doug had better watch his step and do this exactly right. Unless he's not the person we see on TV and all he wants is more control and his own satellite channel.

Power corrupts.

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post Apr 25 2007, 10:42 AM
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Save 3ABN.com has had over 21,000 hits in the past 4 days. It appears that the merger ploy has only drawn MORE people to the site. Not what Danny had planned, I'm quite confident.


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Gems of Wisdom
"Lisa and Ronda are not Danny's biological father." -- wwjd, 2/8/07
"Watchbird, The facts prove the above lie." -- wwjd, 2/13/07
"Another lie that can be proven..." -- Bystander, 3/18/07
"The thing about lies is they can be proven." -- Aletheia, 3/22/07
"I am not here to argue" -- Aletheia, 4/24/07
"She didn't move to 3ABN, she moved to Illinois" -- Aletheia, 4/25/07
"Hope is liberal. 3abn is not." -- steffan, 6/9/07
"Danny Shelton does not decide what goes on the air, period." -- appletree, 8/22/07


http://www.save-3abn.com/
http://www.investigating3abn.info/
http://rescue3abn.blog.com/
http://www.abundantrest.org/?p=74
http://abundantrest.org/2007/02/18/3abn-sa...ons-retirement/
http://anewsabbathschool.blogspot.com/2006...ain-wrecks.html
http://cafesda.blogspot.com/2006/08/atoday...bn-news_21.html
http://www.atoday.com/email/2007/02/12/
http://spectrummagazine.typepad.com/the_sp...eans_and_e.html
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post Apr 27 2007, 12:59 PM
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QUOTE(ex3ABNemployee @ Apr 25 2007, 09:42 AM) [snapback]192917[/snapback]

Save 3ABN.com has had over 21,000 hits in the past 4 days. It appears that the merger ploy has only drawn MORE people to the site. Not what Danny had planned, I'm quite confident.


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There is a new letter on http://www.save3abn.com/letters-of-critici...lfred-smith.htm.

Does anyone know who Alfred Smith is? uhm.gif

IMO, I do not see anything productive in posting this email. scratchchin.gif
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QUOTE(Whtz Happenin @ May 5 2007, 12:25 AM) [snapback]194180[/snapback]

There is a new letter on http://www.save3abn.com/letters-of-critici...lfred-smith.htm.

Does anyone know who Alfred Smith is? uhm.gif

IMO, I do not see anything productive in posting this email. scratchchin.gif


Who is this guy? I was wondering about posting it too....but then maybe Joy is trying to be fair and post all letters. I think the writer stated "let's see if you have the guts" to post it or respond to it.
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QUOTE(Whtz Happenin @ May 5 2007, 02:25 AM) [snapback]194180[/snapback]

There is a new letter on http://www.save3abn.com/letters-of-critici...lfred-smith.htm.

Does anyone know who Alfred Smith is? uhm.gif

IMO, I do not see anything productive in posting this email. scratchchin.gif

It is difficult to tell whether this letter was written tongue-in-cheek or seriously... but whichever it is, I think it summarizes and verbalizes the attitudes of various Dannydefenders that we have seen both here on BSDA and met in real life. While no one person might make all of those statements, and those who are critical of efforts to expose evil and expel it "from the camp" might not make them so bluntly... yet in essence these things are are but verbalizations of the attitudes which... when stripped of their cloak of piety in which they are usually covered... spawn the various criticisms we have heard.

I doubt that anyone who really thought the thoughts that are expressed there would openly express them, so it is my conclusion that this is someone who is in actuallity fully supportive of what the save3abn website stands for, but has chosen this mode of communication in order to hopefully catch the attention of those who oppose save3abn efforts and open their minds to what they are really supporting when they make their complaints.

It will be interesting to see what kind of reactions various individuals have to this letter. yes.gif
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QUOTE(watchbird @ May 5 2007, 05:31 AM) [snapback]194194[/snapback]

It is difficult to tell whether this letter was written tongue-in-cheek or seriously... but whichever it is, I think it summarizes and verbalizes the attitudes of various Dannydefenders that we have seen both here on BSDA and met in real life. While no one person might make all of those statements, and those who are critical of efforts to expose evil and expel it "from the camp" might not make them so bluntly... yet in essence these things are are but verbalizations of the attitudes which... when stripped of their cloak of piety in which they are usually covered... spawn the various criticisms we have heard.

I doubt that anyone who really thought the thoughts that are expressed there would openly express them, so it is my conclusion that this is someone who is in actuallity fully supportive of what the save3abn website stands for, but has chosen this mode of communication in order to hopefully catch the attention of those who oppose save3abn efforts and open their minds to what they are really supporting when they make their complaints.

It will be interesting to see what kind of reactions various individuals have to this letter. yes.gif


I tend to agree with Watchbird. I think it was written tongue-in-check in an effort to stimulate responses. The person who wrote it is probably sitting in a chair laughing while contemplating what people are thinking about it.


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