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post Feb 19 2007, 09:08 PM
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QUOTE(Richard Sherwin @ Feb 19 2007, 07:38 PM) [snapback]179401[/snapback]

If it's true that the lawyers are coping everything then maybe they are understanding where the truth lies. (And maybe realize taking this case is fruitless)

To the 14 lawyers out there reading all this, make sure you also read all the pinned areas. We really want you to be well informed about the truth.

Richard


Yes Richard, as one of the most succesful law firms in the country I know they will appreciate your foresite and advice. blink.gif
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post Feb 19 2007, 09:17 PM
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Successfulness in a law firm does not impress me, what impresses me is if they are honest. If they will take a case based on the truth, not whether or not they can win it.


QUOTE(wwjd @ Feb 19 2007, 10:08 PM) [snapback]179418[/snapback]

Yes Richard, as one of the most succesful law firms in the country I know they will appreciate your foresite and advice. blink.gif

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post Feb 19 2007, 09:26 PM
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QUOTE(Richard Sherwin @ Feb 19 2007, 09:17 PM) [snapback]179424[/snapback]

Successfulness in a law firm does not impress me, what impresses me is if they are honest. If they will take a case based on the truth, not whether or not they can win it.


Maybe you should ask Garwin M. That question. He has used them for years and his integrity, that I know of, has never been questioned.
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post Feb 19 2007, 09:31 PM
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Well that answered that question. Thanks.


QUOTE(wwjd @ Feb 19 2007, 10:26 PM) [snapback]179428[/snapback]

Maybe you should ask Garwin M. That question. He has used them for years and his integrity, that I know of, has never been questioned.

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post Feb 19 2007, 11:43 PM
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QUOTE(Richard Sherwin @ Feb 19 2007, 09:31 PM) [snapback]179431[/snapback]

Well that answered that question. Thanks.

I guess it might have answered a couple of other questions too... blink.gif

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post Feb 19 2007, 11:50 PM
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QUOTE(wwjd @ Feb 19 2007, 07:26 PM) [snapback]179428[/snapback]

Maybe you should ask Garwin M. That question. He has used them for years and his integrity, that I know of, has never been questioned.



What would you think he would tell us, i would guess that he would say of course his lawyers are full of integrity, and guess what they most likely are just that.

BUT what if the lawyers are being feed false or half information, then it would not matter how full of integrity they were they would be making false moves. For that matter Garwin M. would be in the same boat.

So it goes back to danny's and tommy's word and their integrity, and at this point it is very clear to many and so clear to others that integrity is in severe doubt.

Erik

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post Feb 20 2007, 12:15 AM
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QUOTE(Richard Sherwin @ Feb 19 2007, 06:38 PM) [snapback]179401[/snapback]

To the 14 lawyers out there reading all this, make sure you also read all the pinned areas. We really want you to be well informed about the truth.

Richard

I think the tribe has increased. There were 18 names listed on the letterhead.
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post Feb 20 2007, 01:10 AM
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QUOTE(wwjd @ Feb 20 2007, 03:26 AM) [snapback]179428[/snapback]

Maybe you should ask Garwin M. That question. He has used them for years and his integrity, that I know of, has never been questioned.


I have never heard of his integrity. Could you explain, please?
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post Feb 20 2007, 07:23 AM
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QUOTE(wwjd @ Feb 19 2007, 08:26 PM) [snapback]179428[/snapback]

Maybe you should ask Garwin M. That question. He has used them for years and his integrity, that I know of, has never been questioned.



Garwin is not the person to ask.

I will remind you that one can access an attorney database that give a competance and integrity rating for licensed lawyers. Anyone who wants to know can find out. There is not need to speculate.



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post Feb 20 2007, 05:54 PM
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I saw this program quite by accident Thursday night. I'd gone over to visit my mom. She always has 3ABN TV on. The part I remember best is when SQ gestured with her hands up and asked something like "why...all for what?" (referring to people on internet daring to question the innocence of certain people's actions within). I'd never heard of a forum on the internet that discussed such things as they were saying. So, I searched and found this forum...and the other one.

TV ministry scandals? Unheard of! I wonder why, after all the previous lessons learned from other scandals, TV ministers don't err on the side of caution, distancing themselves WIDELY from even the appearance of unfairness or unaccountability.

It made me wonder how far we've come (or gone) that we're not to question the actions or character of TV ministries. We know they (TV ministries) rely on us for public for support. The next morning, my mom--after sensing something was awry--changed her plans for a Trust donation to said organization. The whole purpose of the program that night backfired. What a shame.

Money and power. Not a good combination. Power often leads to corruption, and all the wealth in the world cannot help humanity forward. Can anyone actually imagine Moses, John the Baptist, or Jesus armed with the moneybags of Carnegie? Paul took his mission worldwide, and with very little support, as evidenced by his statement in Rom 1:8...."throughout the whole world."


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post Feb 20 2007, 06:24 PM
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QUOTE(LaurenceD @ Feb 20 2007, 06:54 PM) [snapback]179665[/snapback]

TV ministry scandals? Unheard of! I wonder why, after all the previous lessons learned from other scandals, TV ministers don't err on the side of caution, distancing themselves WIDELY from even the appearance of unfairness or unaccountability.

It made me wonder how far we've come (or gone) that we're not to question the actions or character of TV ministries. We know they (TV ministries) rely on us for public for support. The next morning, my mom--after sensing something was awry--changed her plans for a Trust donation to said organization. The whole purpose of the program that night backfired. What a shame.
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Nonchalant isn't it? All it does is make people go searching and they find BSDA.

(That's how I found it!)


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post Feb 20 2007, 06:31 PM
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Welcome to BlackSDA LaurenceD. Thank you for giving us your independent opinion of what you observed Thursday evening and what has transpired since you and your mother watched the program.

As you can see there are many areas to explore on this website that you will find of value and many wonderful and supportive people to get to know.

Again, welcome.

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post Feb 20 2007, 06:34 PM
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QUOTE(husbandoftheyear @ Feb 20 2007, 05:24 PM) [snapback]179669[/snapback]

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Nonchalant isn't it? All it does is make people go searching and they find BSDA.

(That's how I found it!)



That is how I found it too. I told Danny and Walt that they were the best advertisement that the web sites have. Apparently they didn't believe me. They both basically said that they are receiving counsel both ways, to either defend or keep quiet.

I go to a small country church, but my mother goes to a large church. She said she knows several in her church that have quit giving solely based on Danny and the live programs. They have not gotten on the internet but they say something isn't right so they have not been giving. I have shared very little about what is written here with anyone. I am waiting until I hear Linda's side before I can decide what I feel is true and what is not. I use to give money to 3ABN but I quit giving until I decide who is telling the truth. I pray that all of this can be resolved soon. If 3ABN is to stay they need to get back to what they say they were called to do and that is to spread the gospel.
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post Feb 20 2007, 07:09 PM
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QUOTE(Uncle Sam @ Feb 20 2007, 06:34 PM) [snapback]179671[/snapback]

If 3ABN is to stay they need to get back to what they say they were called to do and that is to spread the gospel.


Sam, that is what they want to do more than anything, it is people's lies and accusations that won't let them. By ignoring the accusations they were judged to be guilty, why else would they not speak up. Now they have started to speak out in defense and they are accused of trashing and bringing attention to the websites. a person would have to be comatose to see that on a site like this they can't win for losing no matter what they do. That is why they don't make their decisions based on a small group that will always condemn, criticize and slander them regardless of what actions the ministry might take. When you can't win in a specific situation, you pray, you consult others with wisdom and you go forward the best you know how.
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post Feb 20 2007, 07:16 PM
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Thanks for the welcome!

Unfortunately, much of the world has a cynical view of TV ministries nowadays as illustrated in this song written nearly 15 years ago and heard by millions around the world. TV ministers would do well to listen up regardless of whether the allegations are true or not. You just can't be too careful.

Like Uncle Sam, it's only right to stay unassuming until... But, we can't ignore the signs along the way. The truth cannot and will not remain hidden from the eyes of those who have acquired a more profound and perceptive wisdom.


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