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post Mar 28 2007, 10:52 AM
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So, Clay, Kevin, let me see if I got this skrate............this whole thread/tirade was based on some faulty information from web postings by a man with at the very least a very stange sense of humor an some serious issues? This was also in response to the "suggestion" about GJ's credibility by puting his life on the world wide web, recieved by Aletheia from............Charlie? giggle.gif Ok sorry about that part, I just could resist, but you get my point? Please tell me they didn't question the man's credibility on that.

QUOTE(awesumtenor @ Mar 28 2007, 08:28 AM) [snapback]188430[/snapback]

That truth aint bent; it's broken and left in pieces on the floor.

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post Mar 28 2007, 10:55 AM
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QUOTE(princessdi @ Mar 28 2007, 11:52 AM) [snapback]188437[/snapback]

So, Clay, Kevin, let me see if I got this skrate............this whole thread/tirade was based on some faulty information from web postings by a man with at the very least a very stange sense of humor an some serious issues? This was also in response to the "suggestion" about GJ's credibility by puting his life on the world wide web, recieved by Aletheia from............Charlie? giggle.gif Ok sorry about that part, I just could resist, but you get my point? Please tell me they didn't question the man's credibility on that.

Ummm Di... that about sums up this truth-bending exercise.... as I said earlier.....

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I would submit that in my opinion this coordinated effort has produced more garbage than treasure, more truth bending than truth....

That being the case, can garbage producers change their vocation and become successful treasure collectors?


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post Mar 28 2007, 10:58 AM
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Ok, I was just making sure I had that skrate. Just sad!


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post Mar 28 2007, 12:23 PM
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QUOTE(Clay @ Mar 28 2007, 07:04 AM) [snapback]188401[/snapback]

Cindy stated in post #138 of this thread:
Cindy has admitted that she is part of a coordinated effort to get to the "truth." It is apparent from the posts those who share her view and are assisting in this coordinated effort. It is also apparent that their "effort" has resulted in more confusion and truth-bending, and as she herself has noted, "one man's garbage is another man's treasure...."

I would submit that in my opinion this coordinated effort has produced more garbage than treasure, more truth bending than truth....

That being the case, can garbage producers change their vocation and become successful treasure collectors?

Clay,
Yes they most certainly can. It just takes training their eyes to see the real treasure among the trash so they don't dump the wrong stuff in the wrong pile!


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post Mar 28 2007, 01:17 PM
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QUOTE(Johann @ Mar 28 2007, 05:57 AM) [snapback]188380[/snapback]

Why not garlic? Did you ever hear of a town in the Far East where they eat lots of garlic. Nobody ever gets sick. And then they never have any visitors!



I have an uncle who used to swear by garlic...ate it by the spoonful...

We could smell him coming a block away!!
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post Mar 28 2007, 01:21 PM
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The defense attorney stood to begin his closing arguments. As he took a few, measured steps towards the jury box, he reflected on his case. It didn't look good for his client. The man had been caught leaning over the lifeless body of his wife, her blood on his arms and chest, the murder weapon in his hand and dozens of witnesses in the next room who had heard them fighting moments before.

Occasionally, as he quietly pled the circumstantial nature of the case against his client before those twelve men and women, he would pause and nervously, expectantly gaze at the courtroom door. Finally, just before he was about to sit down, a man strode through the door and handed the attorney a note. The attorney read it briefly, put it into his pocket and smiled.

"What would you say if I told you that my team has found the actual murderer of my client's wife? That this man was able to slip by the witnesses, unnoticed, viciously stab an innocent woman and then slip back out again? What would you say if I told you that my investigators have that man right outside this courtroom, ready to bring him in through those very doors?"

He flourishes his right arm in that direction and all heads turn to the doors to watch the real killer make his entrance. They wait, in hushed expectation, and wait, and wait. Finally, the clever defense attorney redirects the jury's attention back onto himself.

"Of course, there is no man waiting just outside the courtroom doors. The point is, you all looked. That shows you have reasonable doubt that my client is the actual murderer. You must, therefore, find him 'Not guilty'."

Is that what is happening here? Is this information, as yet simply unverified hearsay to this date, that was found posted on the Adventist Tomorrow forum being used as a diversion, turning attention away from the real issues? Is it an attempt to shift the guilt and focus away from some and onto others? I don't know. It would be nice if the man who made the posts would confirm or deny their credibility with some form of documentation, but he remains silent.

Is it just a convenient ploy?

BTW, the above story is a reworking of one my husband and I saw on a legal series that we follow. It's what came to my mind as this topic has unfolded.


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post Mar 28 2007, 02:43 PM
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QUOTE(Clay @ Mar 28 2007, 09:04 AM) [snapback]188401[/snapback]

Cindy stated in post #138 of this thread:
Cindy has admitted that she is part of a coordinated effort to get to the "truth." It is apparent from the posts those who share her view and are assisting in this coordinated effort. It is also apparent that their "effort" has resulted in more confusion and truth-bending, and as she herself has noted, "one man's garbage is another man's treasure...."

I would submit that in my opinion this coordinated effort has produced more garbage than treasure, more truth bending than truth....

That being the case, can garbage producers change their vocation and become successful treasure collectors?


I don't know. Ask the Lindanites
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post Mar 28 2007, 02:51 PM
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QUOTE(Snoopy @ Mar 28 2007, 09:17 PM) [snapback]188492[/snapback]

I have an uncle who used to swear by garlic...ate it by the spoonful...

We could smell him coming a block away!!


The smell keeps the people with the bugs at a distance. Turn it around, and you see how some well seasoned "garlic" might keep the witnesses at a distance. doh.gif

QUOTE(wwjd @ Mar 28 2007, 10:43 PM) [snapback]188516[/snapback]

I don't know. Ask the Lindanites


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post Mar 28 2007, 02:57 PM
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QUOTE(Johann @ Mar 28 2007, 03:51 PM) [snapback]188517[/snapback]

Will you be in the games section tonight?


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I do appreciate Aletheia posting "Wow, NW -- you rock!"

Like others have said, I think if we all got together we might find we have far more in common than divides us.

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QUOTE(wwjd @ Mar 28 2007, 03:43 PM) [snapback]188516[/snapback]

I don't know. Ask the Lindanites

The official story from the latest memo no doubt?


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post Mar 28 2007, 03:09 PM
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QUOTE(Aletheia @ Mar 28 2007, 08:20 AM) [snapback]188396[/snapback]

hmmm...

Coming from a EG White apologist that's rather suprising, but if that's true then you might want to review her will. It's on the estate website. It's been awhile since I read it myself, but I believe the only trust funds have to do with education of her grandchildren, and other worthy individuals.


Cindy, My thoughts....If only the people here would have scrutinized all of the allegations against DS and 3abn, like they have Mr. Joys, we probably wouldn't have to be here right now. This is what makes this whole situation so ironic it's sad. It is a totally different set of rules they go by to judge those on their side than they use to judge 3abn. All one has to do is hint at an impropiety by DS or 3abn, and everyone here is all over it. Say something about someone on their side and you get attacked for even mentioning it.
You will notice pickle never answered about the car repossession. I saw a copy of that judgement today so it did happen or is going to happen. No matter how they argue it, there seems to be a pattern here.
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QUOTE(wwjd @ Mar 28 2007, 04:09 PM) [snapback]188523[/snapback]

Cindy, My thoughts....If only the people here would have scrutinized all of the allegations against DS and 3abn, like they have Mr. Joys, we probably wouldn't have to be here right now. This is what makes this whole situation so ironic it's sad. It is a totally different set of rules they go by to judge those on their side than they use to judge 3abn. All one has to do is hint at an impropiety by DS or 3abn, and everyone here is all over it. Say something about someone on their side and you get attacked for even mentioning it.
You will notice pickle never answered about the car repossession. I saw a copy of that judgement today so it did happen or is going to happen. No matter how they argue it, there seems to be a pattern here.

more from the memo?


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post Mar 28 2007, 03:52 PM
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QUOTE(wwjd @ Mar 28 2007, 05:09 PM) [snapback]188523[/snapback]

Cindy, My thoughts....If only the people here would have scrutinized all of the allegations against DS and 3abn, like they have Mr. Joys, we probably wouldn't have to be here right now. This is what makes this whole situation so ironic it's sad. It is a totally different set of rules they go by to judge those on their side than they use to judge 3abn. All one has to do is hint at an impropiety by DS or 3abn, and everyone here is all over it. Say something about someone on their side and you get attacked for even mentioning it.
You will notice pickle never answered about the car repossession. I saw a copy of that judgement today so it did happen or is going to happen. No matter how they argue it, there seems to be a pattern here.


My thoughts also..

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Well, at least it looks like they're having some fun.

QUOTE(wwjd @ Mar 28 2007, 01:09 PM) [snapback]188523[/snapback]

You will notice pickle never answered about the car repossession. I saw a copy of that judgement today so it did happen or is going to happen. No matter how they argue it, there seems to be a pattern here.

wwjd,
You have documentation about a claim and you're playing it close to your chest? What else are you sitting on?


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post Mar 28 2007, 04:14 PM
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QUOTE(wwjd @ Mar 28 2007, 03:09 PM) [snapback]188523[/snapback]

You will notice pickle never answered about the car repossession. I saw a copy of that judgement today so it did happen or is going to happen.

I know nothing about that. But why don't you post it so we can all see it?

I just talked to Gailon. Sounds like it's not even his car. You got your facts straight?
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